Would you give up Batum to get Rondo?

[RR7]

His stats aren't that good, and being surrounded by 3 future HOFers should inflate them. Which ever team ends up with him will get a good PG, but not someone who can carry a team by himself.

And Batum can?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i have inside information from a reputable source that rondo likes to play with/collect dolls, i say get him at any cost

 

[BrianFromWA]

"No sir, I didn't see you playing with your dolls again!"

"Good!"

 

[Mediocre Man]

And Batum can?

No, But in our offense, and with a very good PG on the roster already, Why deal Batum?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i dont want to name my sources, but he likes my little pony too

 

[Mediocre Man]

i dont want to name my sources, but he likes my little pony too

So HCP is your source?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

no it is a movie star from the 80's

 

[44Thrilla]

Sorry, guys. Batum is just as good as Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook. He's way better than Rondo. Also, sorry for interrupting your awesome discussion.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

well, to be fair, chris paul and westbrook kinda suck

 

[tlongII]

So Jason Kidd won't be going in the hall of fame? That's a bit of a surprise. And I guess Miami didn't need a PG because they had "the Big Three". Wait, remind me, Miami did win, right? Because you don't need a PG if you have THE BIG THREE...

Jason Kidd is old.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

the same source also confirmed to me that marshall faulk is a degenerate gambler

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Somebody is a grumpy grape.

Maybe he realized that in a year or two the Boston 'big-three' will consist of Rondo, Green and Bradley.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Sorry, guys. Batum is just as good as Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook. He's way better than Rondo. Also, sorry for interrupting your awesome discussion.

At last our evaluation of our players is backed up by objective outside observers.
(Also our evaluation of our discussion.)

 

[3RA1N1AC]

yes a celtic fan is clearly an objective outside observer in a rondo thread

not that i disagree at all with thrilla

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Yes I would do this. Rondo cant shoot but Rondo is a great defensive player, a competitor, and great point guard. I love Batum but a wing player the quality of Nicolas comes along far more often and are easier to acquire than a point guard of Rondo's talent. We'd just have to get rid of Nate. But that is the plan for every situation.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Sorry, guys. Batum is just as good as Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook. He's way better than Rondo. Also, sorry for interrupting your awesome discussion.

Felton and Batum are as good as Rondo.

 

[oldmangrouch]

MM, you are either Felton's mother - or you are messing with us.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

rondo trains carrier pigeons and collects antique thimbles, latest info from my famous source

 

[Mediocre Man]

MM, you are either Felton's mother - or you are messing with us.

Together they are as valuable to Portland as Rondo himself would be

 

[oldmangrouch]

Together they are as valuable to Portland as Rondo himself would be

Playing for Nate, I expect Felton to be somewhere between invisible and an outright disaster....so I must respectfully disagree.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Playing for Nate, I expect Felton to be somewhere between invisible and an outright disaster....so I must respectfully disagree.

But Rondo would do better under Nate?

 

[magnifier661]

LMAO so we trade the only three point shooter left, other than Matthews, on our team for a point guard we just got Felton for? That makes 0 sense to me. Hell yeah Rhondo is the shit, but this reminds me of that year the Blazers had nothing but defenders and slashers. It was really tough to score once the other teams crowded the paint. I would rather enjoy some balance.

Now if we got Crawford, this may be intriguing.

 

[Mediocre Man]

LMAO so we trade the only three point shooter left, other than Matthews, on our team for a point guard we just got Felton for? That makes 0 sense to me. Hell yeah Rhondo is the shit, but this reminds me of that year the Blazers had nothing but defenders and slashers. It was really tough to score once the other teams crowded the paint. I would rather enjoy some balance.

Now if we got Crawford, this may be intriguing.

KBergCBS

In early stages of free-agent dialogue, Jamal Crawford has heard from the Hawks, Pacers, Magic, Bulls, Hornets and Nets, says a source.


We can't afford Crawford because of Brandon.

 

[RR7]

we couldn't afford Crawford without Brandon.

 

[Masbee]

KBergCBS

In early stages of free-agent dialogue, Jamal Crawford has heard from the Hawks, Pacers, Magic, Bulls, Hornets and Nets, says a source.


We can't afford Crawford because of Brandon.

Explain (with full facts and figures and cited sources) how the Blazers could afford Crawford even if they amnesty Roy.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I think the thinking is that, if we amnesty Roy, we are now looking at a cap number of around 56M, which puts us slightly under the cap (58M), but not far enough to make any deals for >MLE. If we don't, we have a cap number of 71M plus whatever Greg ends up with, plus Nolan and Diebler etc.

So it becomes a matter of whether we can go after free agents using the "Big" MLE (which you can only use if you are NOT a taxpayers--under 70.3M cap #) or whether we can only use the mini-MLE. The Big can be for 4 years and 20.45M guaranteed. The mini can only be 3yr/9.27M guaranteed.

If Roy is not amnestied, it doesn't matter what we do with Oden or Smith, etc.....we're going to be in the lux tax region and have to stick with only the mini-MLE. If Roy is amnestied, we can sign Oden, Smith, Diebler all to deals (provided they add up to less than 14M or so this year) and still use the 4/20.45M MLE.

The thinking of many is that, while there's a chance that Crawford or others of similar talent may take a full MLE to go where they want to, there's no way in hell they're leaving 11M guaranteed on the table.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Explain (with full facts and figures and cited sources) how the Blazers could afford Crawford even if they amnesty Roy.

Keeping Roy puts us over the cap. Amnesty Roy and we are under the cap thus allowing us to use the full MLE. If we amnesty Roy we can give Crawford the full MLE. If we keep Roy we can only offer him a partial MLE. There is nothing else to really explain?

 

[Masbee]

Keeping Roy puts us over the cap. Amnesty Roy and we are under the cap thus allowing us to use the full MLE. If we amnesty Roy we can give Crawford the full MLE. If we keep Roy we can only offer him a partial MLE. There is nothing else to really explain?

Crawford is not taking the MLE to come to the Blazers.

$5 mil per year? Seriously? Dude made $10.8mil last season and is coming off 6th man of the year 2 season's ago.

Get real.

 

[BrianFromWA]

he made 10.8M last year.

And maybe, after a guy's made 60+M in his career, he'd give a hometown discount to play with his friend(s) and in the Northwest.

 

[Masbee]

I think the thinking is that, if we amnesty Roy, we are now looking at a cap number of around 56M, which puts us slightly under the cap (58M), but not far enough to make any deals for >MLE. If we don't, we have a cap number of 71M plus whatever Greg ends up with, plus Nolan and Diebler etc.

So it becomes a matter of whether we can go after free agents using the "Big" MLE (which you can only use if you are NOT a taxpayers--under 70.3M cap #) or whether we can only use the mini-MLE. The Big can be for 4 years and 20.45M guaranteed. The mini can only be 3yr/9.27M guaranteed.

If Roy is not amnestied, it doesn't matter what we do with Oden or Smith, etc.....we're going to be in the lux tax region and have to stick with only the mini-MLE. If Roy is amnestied, we can sign Oden, Smith, Diebler all to deals (provided they add up to less than 14M or so this year) and still use the 4/20.45M MLE.

The thinking of many is that, while there's a chance that Crawford or others of similar talent may take a full MLE to go where they want to, there's no way in hell they're leaving 11M guaranteed on the table.

List the Crawford caliber free agents that have signed with the Blazers for the MLE in the past.


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