Would you give up CJ for Cousins?

[Minstrel]

If Cousins was interested in being in Portland, then definitely. If he was not interested or even ambivalent, then definitely not.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

If Cousins was interested in being in Portland, then definitely. If he was not interested or even ambivalent, then definitely not.

Basically, this.

However, I'd add a certain Boston fan's idea (ahem) that we include Turner for Gay.

Lillard
Crabbe
Gay
Aminu
Cousins

Of course, then our Gay Cousins would have Crabbes....

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Basically, this.

However, I'd add a certain Boston fan's idea (ahem) that we include Turner for Gay.

Lillard
Crabbe
Gay
Aminu
Cousins

Of course, then our Gay Cousins would have Crabbes....

and a diet high in aminu acids

 

[Wizard Mentor]

and a diet high in aminu acids

You've taken it too far, so I will go even farther

High on Aminu Acids, a Dame and her Gay Cousins got the Crabbes... and that's just the Starters!

 

[rasheedfan2005]

You've taken it too far, so I will go even farther

High on Aminu Acids, a Dame and her Gay Cousins got the Crabbes... and that's just the Starters!

Al Farooq this dame shit

 

[Haakzilla]

...this is a prime example why the Blazers should avoid Cousins like the plague! The video title is poorly written, it's all Boogie and it's all zBo Hoop Fam style! Full details here: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/m...g-an-alleged-nightclub-assault-151311770.html


...here is even more evidence from a few days prior, this guy is a joke! http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-ki...with-cheesesteaks-and-hennessy-153700852.html

 

[Denny Crane]

Would you give up CJ for Whiteside?

 

[e_blazer]

Would you give up CJ for Whiteside?

If AC can start showing consistently what he did last night, yup.

 

[tester551]

Would you give up CJ for Whiteside?

I personally would prefer Whiteside to Cousins.

 

[magnifier661]

I voted no because I think Cousins is one of those "team cancer" players. He's got all the skills to be the best in the game at his position, yet the space between his ears prohibits him from leading a winning organization.

 

[Haakzilla]

I voted no because I think Cousins is one of those "team cancer" players. He's got all the skills to be the best in the game at his position, yet the space between his ears prohibits him from leading a winning organization.

...agree, also see my post of links and video above!

 

[KeepOnRollin]

With all his "issues" I wouldn't trade CJ for Cousins but I would put a package of a up to two first round picks (1 the Cavs) and Crabbe for him.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I voted no because I think Cousins is one of those "team cancer" players. He's got all the skills to be the best in the game at his position, yet the space between his ears prohibits him from leading a winning organization.

That's your feeling, sure. You could be right.
But, I totally disagree. Cousins has led every "winning organization" he's been on. OK, I'm guessing that his HS team was pretty good. His college team was absolutely elite.

Please don't use the phrase "Sacramento Kings."
And "Winning Organization" in the same sentence. (see what I did there )

I've detailed the craptitude that is the Kings management/owner combination. When he's traded to a playoff team that immediately becomes a nonplayoff team, I'll happily agree with you. Until then, probably not.

 

[riverman]

When it comes to Cousins it would need to be addition by addition...having an elite starting lineup which would require CJ and Dame playing with Boogie...there are players I'd trade CJ for but Boogie isn't that guy...Paul George is...the Greek Freak is...Unibrow is...Whiteside is..Drummond definitely is. Cousins just has baggage that might mess with the chemistry too much...it's a crapshoot with him...CJ is the voice of reason and would be a good mentor for Boogie

 

[riverman]

Rumor mill says Blazers are willing to move Meyers, Plums and Harkless for an elite scoring big...posted a link earlier but some folks said the link gave them a problem

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Rumor mill says Blazers are willing to move Meyers, Plums and Harkless for an elite scoring big...posted a link earlier but some folks said the link gave them a problem

what's the web site?

Makes some sense, but those aren't our high salary guys and we're up against the luxury tax.

 

[Denny Crane]

what's the web site?

Makes some sense, but those aren't our high salary guys and we're up against the luxury tax.

$22M, no?

Meyers $10M, Mo $10M, Plums $2M. +/- a million or two.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

$22M, no?

Meyers $10M, Mo $10M, Plums $2M. +/- a million or two.

Exactly my point. We have a VERY small amount of $$ to sign 2 additional players to.

 

[e_blazer]

Rumor mill says Blazers are willing to move Meyers, Plums and Harkless for an elite scoring big...posted a link earlier but some folks said the link gave them a problem

Elite, scoring, bigs (PF & C):

Davis, Cousins, Towns, Love, Griffin, Porzingis, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez, Jabari Parker. (That's the limit of bigs in the top 40 of scoring). Out of those, I'd say that the Blazers could put together an offer that wouldn't get laughed at for Cousins, Lopez and maybe Gasol. Anybody else?

 

[Denny Crane]

Exactly my point. We have a VERY small amount of $$ to sign 2 additional players to.

True, but you said those weren't our high salary guys.

True, we can't take much more than the ~$22M back, but a 3-for-1 leaves us with no roster spot to fill. Vet minimum, I presume, if we want 13+ players.

As the season goes on, pro-ration of vet minimum contracts would give us room to add a 14th and 15th player.

If we send out $22M and take back $21M, we are fine.

 

[Denny Crane]

Elite, scoring, bigs (PF & C):

Davis, Cousins, Towns, Love, Griffin, Porzingis, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez, Jabari Parker. (That's the limit of bigs in the top 40 of scoring). Out of those, I'd say that the Blazers could put together an offer that wouldn't get laughed at for Cousins, Lopez and maybe Gasol. Anybody else?

Milsap? Vucevic? Monroe? Kanter ? Okafor?

 

[Scalma]

We don't need a scoring big. I'm definitely not sacrificing Harkless to get one unless it's cousins but they would want CJ, and I wouldn't give both Harkless and CJ to get cousins. We need a rim protector.

 

[Denny Crane]

We don't need a scoring big. I'm definitely not sacrificing Harkless to get one unless it's cousins but they would want CJ, and I wouldn't give both Harkless and CJ to get cousins. We need a rim protector.

Toward the end of the game, Stotts had Dame take a 30ft shot, he missed.

That situation is the kind you want an easier attempt.

IMO

 

[Scalma]

Toward the end of the game, Stotts had Dame take a 30ft shot, he missed.

That situation is the kind you want an easier attempt.

IMO

It's easier to take away big men late in games. You'd ideally want a guy who can beat someone off the dribble in that situation. But I get your point. I just don't think it's the Blazers biggest need.

 

[magnifier661]

That's your feeling, sure. You could be right.
But, I totally disagree. Cousins has led every "winning organization" he's been on. OK, I'm guessing that his HS team was pretty good. His college team was absolutely elite.

Please don't use the phrase "Sacramento Kings."
And "Winning Organization" in the same sentence. (see what I did there )

I've detailed the craptitude that is the Kings management/owner combination. When he's traded to a playoff team that immediately becomes a nonplayoff team, I'll happily agree with you. Until then, probably not.

I would love to be wrong and we somehow landed him. He's got exceptional talent. If he isn't a distraction and actually can lead, he would be a perfect fit with Dame IMO

 

[Denny Crane]

It's easier to take away big men late in games. You'd ideally want a guy who can beat someone off the dribble in that situation. But I get your point. I just don't think it's the Blazers biggest need.

Inside/outside.

Pick and roll.

&c

 

[e_blazer]

Milsap? Vucevic? Monroe? Kanter ? Okafor?

Elite? Kind of on the bottom end of consideration for that. Not sure I'd include Harkless in a package for any of those guys.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I would love to be wrong and we somehow landed him. He's got exceptional talent. If he isn't a distraction and actually can lead, he would be a perfect fit with Dame IMO

Mags, I agree he would be a great fit with Dame.

OT: It's good to see you back in the forums. Just wanted to mention that your sig is messed up - it should read
#TheHCPisMyGardenerIShallNotMow

 

[riverman]

Elite, scoring, bigs (PF & C):

Davis, Cousins, Towns, Love, Griffin, Porzingis, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez, Jabari Parker. (That's the limit of bigs in the top 40 of scoring). Out of those, I'd say that the Blazers could put together an offer that wouldn't get laughed at for Cousins, Lopez and maybe Gasol. Anybody else?

they listed the guys targeted as Whiteside first, Vucevic and Lopez trailing

 

[Denny Crane]

Elite? Kind of on the bottom end of consideration for that. Not sure I'd include Harkless in a package for any of those guys.

I think they're hurt or play not enough minutes to qualify for top 40 in scoring.

Monroe filled out the stat sheet pretty nicely last season. His defense is so terrible the team doesn't want to play him anymore. But he seems like a reasonable candidate that's getable. If all you want is a scoring big.

Okafor is a stud. I would love to see us get him. Wherever he ends up, they're going to be in good shape for years. 17.5PPG (last year) seems "elite" to me.