Would you give up Rudy to get David Lee?

[Storyteller2]

BYC

Ding, ding! We have a winner!

You might as well discuss trading Lee for Claver and Freeland - that one's not going to happen, either.

Outlaw+Blake+Fernandez for Lee does not work because of Lee's BYC status

Outlaw+Blake+draft pick for Lee does not work because of Lee's BYC status.

To make the trade, two things would have to happen:

1) Portland would have to agree to take one or two significant contracts back. Think KP is interested in Jeffries? Yeah, I don't either.

2) NY would have to agree to take one or two significant non-expiring contracts back. Agreeing to cut into their 2010 cap space. Do you see that happening? Neither do I.

 

[PapaG]

Lee is pretty expendable so it won't bother me if we keep him or not. But I wouldn't be willing to trade Lee for Outlaw/Blake as he has way more value than that. For one, we're pretty good at SF with Chandler and Gallo. At PG, I'd rather re-sign Nate or give Toney Douglas minutes instead of having Blake.

Here are probably the only scenarios we'll trade Lee to Portland under:
-You give us Bayless without us taking on salary past 2010
-You give us Fernandez without us taking on salary past 2010
-You take Curry and/or Jeffries off our hands
-You give us a first rounder without us taking on salary

In short, Lee probably isn't going to Portland -at least not via sign-and-trade.

The Knicks can't even make the playoffs in the East with Lee as a starter. The Blazers won 54 games in the West with Blake starting at PG and Outlaw being the primary scorer off of the bench. Plus, LMA is a much better all-around option than Lee and can score on more than just garbage points in a fast-paced offense.

 

[BrianFromWA]

If we would've given Lee Millsap's contract, I wouldn't have had much heartburn. I'm still hoping Miller's a better fit for us than Lee, though I'm not betting my life on it yet.

Giving up assets, even if it would work? I don't see the need to help NYC do a dang thing. Can't sign your own players or get value in a salary dump? Tough.

 

[Natebishop3]

About the only thing that WOULD make sense is doing a threeway trade, sending Lee somewhere else. I just don't see him coming off the bench. Who else would send us a couple nice pieces for Lee?

 

[BTOWN_HUSTLA]

hell no.

The Willamette river will burn from angry blazer fans if they trade RUUUUUUUDDDYYYYYY!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Alan Hahn blocked me from Twitter. I mean, is this really worthy of being blocked?

@alanhahn The Knicks are in every trade rumor with their craptacular talent. Gotta love NY media keeping an irrelevant team relevant.

 

[Mr. J]

The Knicks can't even make the playoffs in the East with Lee as a starter. The Blazers won 54 games in the West with Blake starting at PG and Outlaw being the primary scorer off of the bench. Plus, LMA is a much better all-around option than Lee and can score on more than just garbage points in a fast-paced offense.

How is the Knicks' inability to make the playoffs relevant? Lottery team or championship team, Lee is a better player than both Outlaw and Blake and is worth more money on the FA market than both. I don't want to hear Lee has inflated stats because he plays in a fast-paced offense. In a slow, Eddy Curry-centered offense Lee managed to average a double-double off the bench. There aren't too many players in NBA history who have done that.

I don't see why the Knicks would be interested in Travis Outlaw when we are stacked at both forward spots. Wilson Chandler, Gallo, Al Harrington, Jordan Hill, and (unfortunately) Jared Jeffries will all play both forward positions next season. Travis Outlaw wouldn’t be adding anything new to the team so I don’t know why we would be interested in him.

 

[hasoos]

No.

 

[Idog1976]

I think Bayless and Outlaw could both be solid guys over there, especially playing for Dantoni. I just really don't think Lee makes any sense here whatsoever, he can't play 3, isn't very versatile, gets his stats at an inflated pace on a team with no bigs. Here he'd be playing slower and with a lot of bigs, c'mon.

What if it were some type of three way deal? Lee has value, maybe

Outlaw/Bayless to NY
Lee/Blake to MEM (Blake played very well with AI previously)
Gasol/Conley to POR

Gasol could play spot minutes at 4 (we'd be really big but that's fine) and he'd be insurance incase Joel left after next year. Conley makes a lot of sense for us long-term as a good young guy who's friends with GO and can learn from Miller too. And Memphis just did draft another C who can't play well long-term with Gasol.

Miller/Conley
Roy/Fernandez
Webster/Batum
Aldridge/Gasol
Oden/Pryzbilla

/\ could be in championship contention next year. Maybe a little slow for a team, but almost everyone can pass really well and has high court IQ.

OMG dude you can't post this kind of thing during the day! It's NSFW! I have to go home and change my pants after reading about that sweet, hot deal...oh no I did it again! Seriously post NSFW if you come up with a feasible trade that nets us Conley. It's the least you can do when you post that kind of tradeporn.

 

[Storyteller2]

What if it were some type of three way deal? Lee has value, maybe

Outlaw/Bayless to NY
Lee/Blake to MEM (Blake played very well with AI previously)
Gasol/Conley to POR

A good idea. If Memphis still had $6 million in cap room, it would even be workable. However, they don't.....

 

[BlazerWookee]

Not even if you waterboarded me.

 

[RoyIsClutch07]

Supposedly, that's what it would take:



I wouldn't. I've never been able to understand the fascination with Lee. I wouldn't trade Joel for him, because Joel can rebound, block shots AND defend. Lee can just rebound and score a little, as far as I can see. He's sort of a taller Cedric Ceballos.

No, I wouldn't move Rudy for him. It's prob a siutation to get value you have to be willing to give it up. Don't think Outlaw or Blake has the same kind of value to the knicks that Rudy has. But because we do lack a real assurance at the four spot. I would prob move them both for Lee if Lee was willing to take a reduced role off the bench. He would put this team neck and neck with the lakers.

 

[Draco]

I don't see why the Knicks would be interested in Travis Outlaw when we are stacked at both forward spots. Wilson Chandler, Gallo, Al Harrington, Jordan Hill, and (unfortunately) Jared Jeffries will all play both forward positions next season.

Wow that is probably one of the deepest forward rotations in the NBA. No wonder the Knicks wouldn't be interested in our 3rd leading scorer for the last two seasons.

 

[Draco]

Then at Center the Knicks got Darko with Eddy Curry backing him up. Probably the 4th best center rotation in the league.

They got a three man guard rotation of Nate, Larry Hughes and Duhon. That might be the weak link of the team but is still probably in the top half of the league.

Sure the team could benefit from LeBron next offseason, I mean what team couldn't. But even without LeBron the Knicks are more or less a team set for the long term.

 

[oldmangrouch]

New rumor to ponder.

http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146357&p=2106643#post2106643

Makes sense for the Knicks. Rent Boozer for a year, and try to re-sign him if their quest for a stud FA falls short. Why the Jazz would do it....that isn't real clear.

 

[Mr. J]

Wow that is probably one of the deepest forward rotations in the NBA. No wonder the Knicks wouldn't be interested in our 3rd leading scorer for the last two seasons.

Cute post. All sarcasm and no substance - I like it.

Like I posted earlier (which you failed to acknowledge) Outlaw adds nothing to this team that we don't already have. I don't care that he's the 3rd leading scorer. 12 PPG doesn't warrant us trading for a player we don't need.

 

[Mr. J]

Then at Center the Knicks got Darko with Eddy Curry backing him up. Probably the 4th best center rotation in the league.

They got a three man guard rotation of Nate, Larry Hughes and Duhon. That might be the weak link of the team but is still probably in the top half of the league.

Sure the team could benefit from LeBron next offseason, I mean what team couldn't. But even without LeBron the Knicks are more or less a team set for the long term.

Don't know how this is particularly relevant. We don't really need Outlaw or Blake and they likely won't be here past 2010.

 

[MARIS61]

No.