Would you retire Kidd's number?

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This season has been a huge disappointment considering the Nets bad record and Kidd "giving up" up on team, but does Kidd's number deserve to hang in the rafters? Call me a Kidd homer, or whatever, but I think his number should be retired. Try to remember what Kidd has done for us. He helped resurrect the franchise, and led us to two straight Finals appearances. I don't agree with some of the things he has done as a Net, but overall he has had an incredible impact on the NJ Nets. He's one of the greatest players EVER to wear a Nets uniform, don't forget that; just because things ended on a bitter note.

Thoughts?
 
You have to. He changed the face of the franchise. What he did in the six and a half years here will overshadow what happened in the last six months in the end.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Feb 23 2008, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You have to. He changed the face of the franchise. What he did in the six and a half years here will overshadow what happened in the last six months in the end.</div>

Can't say it better myself


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Feb 23 2008, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sean and me would blaze that shit up.</div>

Sean and I, but what the hell does that have to do with anything?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 23 2008, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Feb 23 2008, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You have to. He changed the face of the franchise. What he did in the six and a half years here will overshadow what happened in the last six months in the end.</div>

Can't say it better myself


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Feb 23 2008, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sean and me would blaze that shit up.</div>

Sean and I, but what the hell does that have to do with anything?
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im talkin' about the jersey,son.
 
lol you would smoke his Jersey? A fitting eulogy, I suppose?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 23 2008, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol you would smoke his Jersey? A puff eulogy, I suppose?</div>
Fixed it
 
considering he's IMO the Nets biggest name of all time, and probably the one that did the most for the franchise, also bringing them closest to an NBA Title, I think you pretty much have to.
 
If Erving gets it, Kidd gets it.

Not exactly the same circumstances, but Erving left because the Nets wouldn't/couldn't pay him...while Kidd left because the team sucked. And they couldn't/wouldn't play him.

Kidd's number should definitely be up there, right next to K-Mart's. Two Eastern Conference Championships led by those two All-Stars.
 
of course, he might the greatest Net of all time, or behind Dr. J. He took this team to two FInals appearances and was the best PG in the NBA during those two years... clearly, no other PG could even touch him, what is he 3rd all time in triple doubles?
 
This doesn't even need to be discussed. The second he retires it goes up there.

He's going to the HOF as a Net.
 
I would do the same as Toronto did with the number of the greatest Raptor ever, Vince Carter. They retired his number, right?
 
vince carters number should be retired but i wouldnt be surprised if it doesnt just for the fact that canadians still hate the guy, they have yet to get over it, it's ironic though because if they wanted him gone, why are they booing him? they still wish they had the old vince back.

heck, the canadian media and sportscastors take all the shots at vince as they can, constantly showing vids of vince getting hurt, maple leaf suckers dont want vince and the country is just as fickle
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 23 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>vince carters number should be retired but i wouldnt be surprised if it doesnt just for the fact that canadians still hate the guy, they have yet to get over it, it's ironic though because if they wanted him gone, why are they booing him? they still wish they had the old vince back.

heck, the canadian media and sportscastors take all the shots at vince as they can, constantly showing vids of vince getting hurt, maple leaf suckers dont want vince and the country is just as fickle</div>
Hey hey easy now. Don't bunch us all together.
 
Wow this is pretty sad, it's came to the day where people are not sure if Kidd's number should be retired and there is a topic on it. I'm guessing some of you are new fans when Vince came over. It's a yes for sure. His number should be retired right away. For someone who said K-Mart, I loved him, but he is not going to get his number retired.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Boki3 @ Feb 23 2008, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow this is pretty sad, it's came to the day where people are not sure if Kidd's number should be retired and there is a topic on it.</div>

Well, to be fair, while there is a topic on it, there hasn't been a single person in the thread who thinks it shouldn't be hanging from the rafters.

And there's no doubt it needs to be retired. I still remember when I was in 6th grade and we went up to North Jersey for some type of class trip. When we passed CAA, all the guys on the bus started jumping up and down because it was the same night we were facing the Pacers in the first round of the playoffs. I'll never forget that night and I have Kidd to thank for it.
 
no doubt it should go up there but Players are always remembered more for their bad times. IMO he is a HOF'er easily but these last couple of months have been a shocker for Kidd IMO.
 
No doubt it needs to be retired. He brought us from the gutters up to respectability. Hell, for 2002 alone he should be considered, and for his MVP (Duncan stole it) year in 2003 tops it off. The second he retires, the ok should be given for No.5 to hit the rafters.
 
You can't even compare what Kidd did for New Jersey with what Carter did for Toronto. Kidd was arguably the best player in your storied franchise's history and took you to 2 NBA Finals. Carter was Toronto's first franchise player and took us to the 2nd round (its not that hard to be the best player of a franchise that's just 5-6 years old). Kidd's statistics are among the league's best and will be franchise marks for years to come. Most of Carter's records have been surpassed and Chris Bosh will pass his scoring mark within the next 3 seasons. Plus, VC's fall from grace was stretched out over 2-3 seasons while Nets fans only had to deal with Kidd's b.s. for half a season.
 
Carter's number isn't retired, and nor do I think it should be. If he didn't go out like a bitch, then I would say we should retire it. But he went out with his "injuries" and his shit, so I could care less about him. If you're going to retire a Raptor number, Mo Pete and Alvin Williams and possibly JYD. Bosh will be up there one day. You can quote me on that.
 
No question at all. That jersey better be going up in the rafters.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 23 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Carter's number isn't retired, and nor do I think it should be. If he didn't go out like a bitch, then I would say we should retire it. But he went out with his "injuries" and his shit, so I could care less about him. If you're going to retire a Raptor number, Mo Pete and Alvin Williams and possibly JYD. Bosh will be up there one day. You can quote me on that.</div>

Alvin Williams and JYD? Wtf? haha, Alvin wasn't THAT good...

Mo Pete would be awesome there, tho. Definitely hang that jersey.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 23 2008, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would do the same as Toronto did with the number of the greatest Raptor ever, Vince Carter. They retired his number, right?</div>


Yeah, those two final appearances with Carter were pretty memorable.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 23 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 23 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Carter's number isn't retired, and nor do I think it should be. If he didn't go out like a bitch, then I would say we should retire it. But he went out with his "injuries" and his shit, so I could care less about him. If you're going to retire a Raptor number, Mo Pete and Alvin Williams and possibly JYD. Bosh will be up there one day. You can quote me on that.</div>

Alvin Williams and JYD? Wtf? haha, Alvin wasn't THAT good...

Mo Pete would be awesome there, tho. Definitely hang that jersey.
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I think Alvin was a good guy and he was always there. But JYD does a lot for the community. He is always at Raptor games and he loves the team.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 23 2008, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 23 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 23 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Carter's number isn't retired, and nor do I think it should be. If he didn't go out like a bitch, then I would say we should retire it. But he went out with his "injuries" and his shit, so I could care less about him. If you're going to retire a Raptor number, Mo Pete and Alvin Williams and possibly JYD. Bosh will be up there one day. You can quote me on that.</div>

Alvin Williams and JYD? Wtf? haha, Alvin wasn't THAT good...

Mo Pete would be awesome there, tho. Definitely hang that jersey.
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I think Alvin was a good guy and he was always there. But JYD does a lot for the community. He is always at Raptor games and he loves the team.
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Oh. I thought JYD turned into a NYK man after he went there. Didn't realize that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 23 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can't even compare what Kidd did for New Jersey with what Carter did for Toronto. Kidd was arguably the best player in your storied franchise's history and took you to 2 NBA Finals. Carter was Toronto's first franchise player and took us to the 2nd round (its not that hard to be the best player of a franchise that's just 5-6 years old). Kidd's statistics are among the league's best and will be franchise marks for years to come. Most of Carter's records have been surpassed and Chris Bosh will pass his scoring mark within the next 3 seasons. Plus, VC's fall from grace was stretched out over 2-3 seasons while Nets fans only had to deal with Kidd's b.s. for half a season.</div>


great points.

Now my opinion is yes Kidd jersey should be retire. he has did a lot for the nets franchise. We had good and bad times. Though the Nets who went to finals will eventually be lost among the Western Conference Dominance, The Spurs 4 rings, Shaq and Kobe three peat plus The Pistons and Heat bringing glory back to the EAST.
 
yes

taking a team who had 17 wins and then taking them to back to back NBA finals deserves jersey retirement

no question
 
If I remember correctly, the Raptors immediately gave Carter's number to a rookie. Not sure who it was.

I am sure that Kidd's number will be retired. However, in my view, he surrendered the right to such honors by essentially declaring that he didn't want to be part of the team or its future. Kidd led the team to great heights . . . but in my view, to receive such an honor, you must contribute more than just numbers: you must be a leader on the court, in the clubhouse, and in the community, someone who was a fixture for years and relished it.
 
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