Would you still endorse the offer knowing what you know today?

[magnifier661]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3436/roy-hibbert

14 PER, 40.1% FG, 9.7 points, 8.4 rebounds, 2.7 blocks. 2012-13 so far.

18.7 PER, 49.7% FG, 12.8 Points, 8.8 rebounds, 2 blocks in 2011-12.

Wasn't the offer like 12+ mil per? Regardless, I would still do it; even though his performance dropped a little on the offensive side. Looks like his D stepped up.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Yeah, probably. I don't believe that his current semi-poor play will be the norm, and I believe he's been improving over the course of the season.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hell

Yes.

Close thread.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Question is, would we be whining bout his play this year? Heck yes we would. But I would still take him.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Question is, would we be whining bout his play this year? Heck yes we would. But I would still take him.

There would be multiple threads wanting to trade him for Dwight Howard, lol.

 

[illmatic99]

He's so slow and uncoordinated. And he has maybe 2 moves on offense. I didn't know much about him before, but after seeing him play, there is no way in hell I'd offer him the max.

I'd much rather have thrown $25mil at Asik like HOU did. Or made a strong push for PHL to trade Vucevic.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Hibbard is exactly the type of player the Blazers need to add to this roster.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Hibbard is exactly the type of player the Blazers need to add to this roster.

Where can we find this player?

 

[illmatic99]

Hickson is far better. The only thing Hibbert offers is his height, and he hardly ever uses it.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Hickson is far better. The only thing Hibbert offers is his height, and he hardly ever uses it.

This year, Hickson has been far better. Last year, Hibbert was. Nothing is definitive.

As for the size difference, it helps Hibbert be a far superior defender, which is something we sorely need.

And it should be noted that signing Hibbert would not have precluded us from signing Hickson too.

 

[magnifier661]

This year, Hickson has been far better. Last year, Hibbert was. Nothing is definitive.

As for the size difference, it helps Hibbert be a far superior defender, which is something we sorely need.

And it should be noted that signing Hibbert would not have precluded us from signing Hickson too.

WE are one of the worst defensive teams in the league. Having a player like Hibbert could change all that.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

And it should be noted that signing Hibbert would not have precluded us from signing Hickson too.

We certainly could have (and this is merely speculation) but we may have not thinking we didn't need him as much with Hibbert on board and Leonard backing him up. Would love a great backup PF but POR never seems intent on wasting a lot of money on one.

 

[RR7]

Hickson is far better. The only thing Hibbert offers is his height, and he hardly ever uses it.

Hibbert is currently anchoring the league's top ranked defense. There's two ends pf the court, last I checked, and Hibbert is a FAR superior defender to Hickson. And while Hickson has been outrebounding Hibbert, Hibbert has a greater overall effect on his team's rebounding when he is in or out of the game.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I would gladly give Hibbard 12 million/yr (of PA's money) for 4 years. I think it will be a big mistake if they offer Hickson that money for that long . . . in fact even with the season Hickson is having, I don't think anyone will offer him 12 million/yr, while unlikely Indy would trade Hibbard to get rid of his contract.

Hickson is playing out of his mind right now, but I perosnally don't think he is a starting PF or center on a good playoff team.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I would gladly give Hibbard 12 million/yr (of PA's money) for 4 years. I think it will be a big mistake if they offer Hickson that money for that long . . . in fact even with the season Hickson is having, I don't think anyone will offer him 12 million/yr, while unlikely Indy would trade Hibbard to get rid of his contract.

Hickson is playing out of his mind right now, but I perosnally don't think he is a starting PF or center on a good playoff team.

Where do you get 12 MIL for Hickson? He will get 8 Max per year. I would sign him at 7.5 average for 3 years even as a backup with the way he is playing.

 

[magnifier661]

I would gladly give Hibbard 12 million/yr (of PA's money) for 4 years. I think it will be a big mistake if they offer Hickson that money for that long . . . in fact even with the season Hickson is having, I don't think anyone will offer him 12 million/yr, while unlikely Indy would trade Hibbard to get rid of his contract.

Hickson is playing out of his mind right now, but I perosnally don't think he is a starting PF or center on a good playoff team.

Even with Hickson's play; I doubt he will get that type of money. I'm thinking the realistic number is around 8-9 mil PER. And if that's the rate, then why not? I would definitely understand if management declines is the market offers him a 10-12 mil per.

 

[magnifier661]

Where do you get 12 MIL for Hickson? He will get 8 Max per year. I would sign him at 7.5 average for 3 years even as a backup with the way he is playing.

dammit you beat me to it!

 

[Mediocre Man]

In a heartbeat.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Where do you get 12 MIL for Hickson? He will get 8 Max per year. I would sign him at 7.5 average for 3 years even as a backup with the way he is playing.

Hickson's cap hold will be 8 mm. With the weak FA class, and his rebounding, he will get more than that

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Hickson's cap hold will be 8 mm. With the weak FA class, and his rebounding, he will get more than that

7.6 Technically and I think that is what he averages in a deal he signs this summer. It is a weak class overall but at his position there are some names. Josh Smith, David West, Paul Millsap and Carl Landry to name a few. Most of those guys are going to find a home before Hickson (unless he signs with us right out of the chute).

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Where do you get 12 MIL for Hickson? He will get 8 Max per year. I would sign him at 7.5 average for 3 years even as a backup with the way he is playing.

I thought the debate was Hibbbard vs. Hickson.

I don't know who is better (althought I have an opinion), but I think one player clearly has a higher market value. I thought Hibbard gets 12 million/yr and I was pointing out no one will pay Hickson that kind of money.

Is Hickson only allowed to get 8 million/yr? If someone wanted to and had room couldn't they offer Hickson 12 million/yr, or does the new CBA not allow that?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Debate wasn't either or, technically we could have had both. Not sure POR would have went that route but the option was there.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Debate wasn't either or, technically we could have had both. Not sure POR would have went that route but the option was there.

OK. others here were saying Hickson was better than Hibbard and that was where my post was coming from. Should have quoted the post to avoid confusion.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

OK. others here were saying Hickson was better than Hibbard and that was where my post was coming from. Should have quoted the post to avoid confusion.

It is Hibbert by the way....

 

[blue9]

Hibbert wasn't worth a max contract after last season and he's not worth one now. With that said, I'd love to have his defense. BUT, with the influx of talent at the C position we should be able to find a defensive C without paying out a max contract.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Hell yes. I think Hickson and Hibbert combined will equal less than the sum of their parts on offense, but the difference that Hibbert would make on defense way more than compensates for the difference...

 

[HailBlazers]

Hibbard is exactly the type of player the Blazers need to add to this roster.

Yup.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Hmmm.

He shot almost 50% in his walk year, inks a new deal, and is now shooting 40%.

Yep...that is the kind of dedication and passion the Blazers need! During time-outs, he can entertain the kiddies by scratching behing his ear with his hind leg.

 

[HailBlazers]

Defense wins championships old man

 

[oldmangrouch]

Defense wins championships old man

Fair enough...but would you pay $12 mil to have Joel back? RH is not a better defender than Joel was, he is a worse rebounder, and he has become as big an offensive liability. (actually worse, since Joel knew when not to shoot)

Of course, I'm old school. I view rebounding as part of a big man's defensive value - not a separate category.