Would you trade CJ for Doncic?

[Fez Hammersticks]

Yes.

I haven't been this hyped for an international prospect since Jokic.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

IMO his skillset is more Roy/Ginobili.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I haven't looked into Doncic, yet. However, I'm hearing the same arguments for Doncic that
I was hearing about Ricky Rubio. I wouldn't trade CJ for a young Rubio. Not even for a matured
Rubio.

Rubio never learned to shoot. Doncic can already shoot. Doncic has also played for bigger clubs (Rubio and Rudy were both on a very minor ACB team, the OTHER Barcelona team). Rubio is a better passer and defender than CJ, though. And it's not close in either case. (I wouldn't trade CJ for him just because we have Lillard.)

If you're interested, here is CJ's year compared with Rubio's year. I dunno what "VORP" is, but it looks like Rubio kicks CJ's ass in it.

Doncic will majorly disappoint if he's only as good as Rubio, which is a sign of how good Doncic already is.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

To be clear: I love CJ's offense. He may be more offensively gifted than Lillard. He's like a shorter, less athletic Brandon Roy (and I mean that as high praise!)

If he was 3 inches taller and a good defender, I would not even be suggesting this.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think that Doncic's highlights are not jump-out-of-your seat flashy and he can look a bit ground-bound. But I think that's deceptive. He's amazingly crafty, and he's certainly not below-average. Think of players like Harden and (my fave comparison) Paul Pierce. They didn't/don't jump out of the gym or blaze past people, they dominate with skill and craft. And Doncic is a SOLID guy - few 19-year-olds are 220+ lbs. Now, if he was in college you could say "well, he's just dominating because he's more physically mature than the other kids". But he's been playing grown men for years.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

To be clear: I love CJ's offense. He may be more offensively gifted than Lillard. He's like a shorter, less athletic Brandon Roy (and I mean that as high praise!)

If he was 3 inches taller and a good defender, I would not even be suggesting this.

I think my biggest question on the roster right now is what is CJ worth? What do other teams think of him? Do they think he’s a borderline all star? Just a good number 2 or 3 option? If he was available what’s his value to those teams?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Presented without comment:

 

[julius]

Presented without comment:

I'm guessing anyone who understands how salary caps work?

 

[BigGameDamian]

It would be temping and I would consider it. I think it would also be a lot easier to answer yes if Dame was younger and not entering his prime already. If you trade CJ for a high draft pick you just going to piss off your franchise guy and rightfully so.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I think Neil should really target Kris Middleton. I also kind of like CJ and #24 for Love and #8 then taking Michael Porter or Mikal Bridges.

 

[tykendo]

CJ for the #8 pick and ol' sour puss face. Survey says "X".

 

[tykendo]

I think Neil should really target Kris Middleton. I also kind of like CJ and #24 for Love and #8 then taking Michael Porter or Mikal Bridges.

This now, is at least realistic.

 

[BonesJones]

I think Neil should really target Kris Middleton. I also kind of like CJ and #24 for Love and #8 then taking Michael Porter or Mikal Bridges.

Fun fact:

Khris Middletons DBPM was worse than CJs last year.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I think Neil should really target Kris Middleton. I also kind of like CJ and #24 for Love and #8 then taking Michael Porter or Mikal Bridges.

Would Cleveland do that before they know if Lebrons coming back or not?

 

[riverman]

Would Cleveland do that before they know if Lebrons coming back or not?

They know he's not coming back...

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

...and here's Doncic and co beating the Gasols:

I was gonna say I liked him better in this one but there really weren't that many highlights.

 

[KingSpeed]

Doncic is Simmons with a shot and way better in every department. Simmons made his team win right away. Doncic can too.

 

[Sarni]

Doncic is Simmons with a shot and way better in every department. Simmons made his team win right away. Doncic can too.

He doesn’t have anywhere near Simmons athleticism though.

 

[BonesJones]

Doncic is Simmons with a shot and way better in every department. Simmons made his team win right away. Doncic can too.

You literally stated a couple days ago you only watch the NBA. Simmons is bigger, faster, and more athletic that Doncic, which goes a long way..

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Yeah, have to agree that Simmons and Doncic are very different players. Simmons more fun to watch, taller, much more athletic, flashier passer, can't shoot a lick. Simmons also was losing with LSU at the age Doncic was winning everything with Slovenia and Real Madrid.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Boy, if both Bamba and Doncic are available at #4 it would be a tough choice for Memphis:

 

[BigGameDamian]

Boy, if both Bamba and Doncic are available at #4 it would be a tough choice for Memphis:

Hopefully it's about time for big men to dominate the paint again!!

 

[Orion Bailey]

Hopefully it's about time for big men to dominate the paint again!!

Amen.

 

[HailBlazers]

He doesn’t have anywhere near Simmons athleticism though.

We'll Yea, he's white.

 

[rotary111]

Mo Bamba is going to be a beast! I could see him going as high as 2, but most likely 3 or 4. Defense!!!
Doncic could potentially drop as far as 5 or 6+.

The farther he drops the more I will falsely get my hopes up that NO will make a move to grab him.
This draft could be a fun one to watch.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

http://acbtv.acb.com/video/10974-la...doncic_mvp_movistar_de_la_liga_endesa_2017_18

http://acbtv.acb.com/video/12404-la..._doncic_mejor_joven_de_la_liga_endesa_2017_18

 

[BonesJones]

Boy, if both Bamba and Doncic are available at #4 it would be a tough choice for Memphis:

Bamba could be the best center in the league. He might be the best player in the draft. I'd take him #2 if I was SAC.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Bamba could be the best center in the league. He might be the best player in the draft. I'd take him #2 if I was SAC.

Kings will be like well we don’t want to stunt Kosta Koufas and willie couley steins growth heh

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Bamba could be the best center in the league. He might be the best player in the draft. I'd take him #2 if I was SAC.

What's your comp for Bagley?

 

[BonesJones]

What's your comp for Bagley?

Don't have one. Karl-Anthony Towns is probably the closest comparison.