Would you trade CJ for Doncic? (1 Viewer)

[Natebishop3]

I voted yes, not because I just voted but because I clearly knew how good Doncic would be back then.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Well, yes, they were above average last year. That's what I meant about how they can bounce up or down a bit due to variance. But over the course of the Lillard-McCollum years, they've basically been mediocre. Some slightly better years (last year being the apex of that, where they parlayed being above average into a run through the weaker half of the Western playoff bracket before running into the Warriors) and some slightly worse years.

For me, it's all about risk/reward. Am I risking a lot? Is there a high reward potential?

When it comes to McCollum, I don't believe I'm risking a lot. Earlier in this thread, you used (as an argument for McCollum) that he would start on most teams. I agree with that--but that just means he's a good starter. Not a star, certainly not a superstar. A good starter has value, of course, but if you were to lose a good starter for nothing, it's not a crushing blow. It would suck, but it's not a franchise-altering event.

When you're talking about a top-tier (especially generational) prospect, the reward potential is very, very high. Now, I think the word "generational" is thrown around way, way too much. People in this thread were talking about guys like Porter Jr. as a generational talent, which was insane. I've heard people say that Kyrie Irving was a generational prospect, etc. "Generational" means once-a-generation. That's rare. Even by that rare definition, Doncic qualified--many believed he was the best European prospect ever (Sabonis probably deserves mention, but people may be disqualifying him because he was never really likely to come over as a young man) and his success and skill level at a tremendously young age backed up that talk.

I wasn't really posting when this thread was started, so I have no participation back in the day--so anything I say could be viewed as suspect, but despite that, I would absolutely have endorsed a McCollum for Doncic swap, even at the cost of absorbing Parsons' contracts. For the reasons given above--McCollum can light it up, but he tops out as a good player. If you trade him for Doncic and Doncic busts, you're a worse team but you didn't cost yourself anything you can't ever get again. If Doncic pans out, you've gotten a player the quality of which you probably won't see again on the team for a long, long time.

Winning a championship is hard--you have to win some bets to do it. It's not possible to win one playing it safe.

Id say it kinda depends... You trade CJ for a pick that doesnt pan out and you have a 28-29 year old pissed off Dame, and he says he wants out?
There’s also a chance whoever you traded doesnt end up being any better than CJ but also pans out. In that case you still might have a pissed off Dame.
I understand the importance of taking risks, but Id be hard pressed to give up a solidified NBA player (especially a starter quality), for a draft pick, unless I was completely sold on the guy I would be drafting.

If I was a gm two years ago watching Luka and I could trade CJ for him, of course Id do it...

 

[Labinot41]

No way, Doncic is overrated, he stucks the offense all the time, goes 1 on 4. Cj is the much better player

Lmao

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Also drafting a rookie, even a good one, just doesn't make sense with Dame's time line. He'd for sure leave.

Aged like fine wine.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I would trade Cj and @Rastapopoulos for Doncic.

 

[wizenheimer]

what's hilarious, is that 2 years after that draft, when it was apparent how wrong some people were about CJ's value, they still kept doubling down on not trading CJ; kept massively overrating CJ's talent and impact. Kept wanting to play it safe with a 30M/year undersized, no-defense SG that is a poor fit with the franchise player. Kept refusing to see that Portland's commitment to CJ is the main reason the Blazers are on the treadmill

and even more hilarious, is that less than a year after that hindsight, the refrain is "we can't trade CJ because his value is at an all time low. so let's trade Dame instead"

it's Blazer reality written by Alfred E Neuman...or The Onion

 

[KSF-ERIC]

I'd consider cj for doncic. Taking on Parsons is too much for me, though.

Hahaha

 

[TBpup]

It was a no-brainer back then and even more so now.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Dear God, people

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Dear God, people

I would trade you for Doncic.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I would trade you for Doncic.

I would hope so

 

[handiman]

I would trade you for Doncic.

He said Dear God, not Dear Dog.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

He said Dear God, not Dear Dog.

I'd trade you too!

 

[BlayZa]

as if we would have had the brain power to draft Luka.