Would you trade Nic Batum for Omer Asik straight-up?

[Hey]

Realistically speaking, if the Rockets are shopping Asik and weren't just interested in cap space, we would not have the assets to make that trade outside of Alridge, Batum, and Lillard. I love Wesley, but he's not going to get it done.

Let's say the Rockets got Dwight and were interested in a glue guy that can handle the ball, shoot the three, rebound, and play good defense. They offer us Omer Asik straight up for Nic Batum (with a couple negligible pieces to make the trade doable)...would you give him up?

Of course, we could probably also chase down an average SF to replace Batum (Dorell Wright sounds unlikely though). But the situation comes down to plugging one leak and another popping up.

 

[RoyToy]

Chandler Parsons already fills this role for them, and it's not out of the question they view Parsons more highly than Batum

This deal is dead on arrival

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Would such a deal 'move the needle'?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Hm. If Claver had been a lot better than he was, or if we hadn't given up Kostas, I might consider it. But I'd probably still say no. I love Asik, but I love Batum more. And besides, we fucking HAD Asik and gave him away - it would kill me to give up too much to get him back.

 

[magnifier661]

Hm. If Claver had been a lot better than he was, or if we hadn't given up Kostas, I might consider it. But I'd probably still say no. I love Asik, but I love Batum more. And besides, we fucking HAD Asik and gave him away - it would kill me to give up too much to get him back.

Yeah if we could pull off hickson for asik; that would be ideal. I mean it would be basically for nothing if you really think about it.

 

[MarAzul]

Realistically speaking, if the Rockets are shopping Asik and weren't just interested in cap space, we would not have the assets to make that trade outside of Alridge, Batum, and Lillard. I love Wesley, but he's not going to get it done.

Let's say the Rockets got Dwight and were interested in a glue guy that can handle the ball, shoot the three, rebound, and play good defense. They offer us Omer Asik straight up for Nic Batum (with a couple negligible pieces to make the trade doable)...would you give him up?

Of course, we could probably also chase down an average SF to replace Batum (Dorell Wright sounds unlikely though). But the situation comes down to plugging one leak and another popping up.

Oh Geez! I would not probably feel any worst than I do about where this team is going.

But Damn! Trading Nic for a guy we drafted in the second round sucks. If they did that, then I assume they have no hope for Leonard and that makes me feel even worse.

I need up, you got any?

 

[craigehlo]

Yes. Batum could be replaced with a SF like Dorrell Wright w/o missing a beat.

 

[magnifier661]

Yes. Batum could be replaced with a SF like Dorrell Wright w/o missing a beat.

I actually agree because I don't think Batum isn't as important to our success as a solid center. If I had to choose between Aldridge (wanting to stay mind you) or Nic, I would definitely pick Aldridge.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

I actually agree because I don't think Batum isn't as important to our success as a solid center. If I had to choose between Aldridge (wanting to stay mind you) or Nic, I would definitely pick Aldridge.

I would too but it still leave a hole in the end. Something you would have to address at some point. I don't believe it moves the needle.

 

[magnifier661]

I would too but it still leave a hole in the end. Something you would have to address at some point. I don't believe it moves the needle.

Think about this though. That trade would probably give us another 3 mil free. That, and the 9 mil we already have could nab iggy, for example. I mean wasn't he getting around 13 mil per?

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Think about this though. That trade would probably give us another 3 mil free. That, and the 9 mil we already have could nab iggy, for example. I mean wasn't he getting around 13 mil per?

But would they use it or sit on it? Yes, if it's executed like that were improved

 

[adrenalize74]

I wouldn't do it. I still have hopes for Batum, if he can produce like he did mid-season. Yeah he is a little overpaid, but that's what Portland has to do to keep talent. Leonard will be better than Asik after this year anyway, so it would be a net loss of Batum.

I still have hopes that Asik is coming via a JJ trade when Hou gets Howard, so its moot anyway.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Batum to the Hawks, Josh Smith to the Rockets and Asik to Portland?

 

[PapaG]

Yeah if we could pull off hickson for asik; that would be ideal. I mean it would be basically for nothing if you really think about it.

Houston will be over the cap if they sign Howard. They can't do a sign-and-trade under the new CBA in that case.

 

[magnifier661]

Batum to the Hawks, Josh Smith to the Rockets and Asik to Portland?

Lol no

 

[magnifier661]

Houston will be over the cap if they sign Howard. They can't do a sign-and-trade under the new CBA in that case.

The difference works though because of the buffer

 

[THE HCP]

Yes. Batum could be replaced with a SF like Dorrell Wright w/o missing a beat.

I would bet you my car and house that EVERY FUCKING TEAM IN THE ENTIRE NBA would rather start Nic Batum than Wright. If I'm wrong, PLEASE enlighten me.

 

[PapaG]

The difference works though because of the buffer

The Blazers would have to sign Hickson, though. Eh, I may be wrong, but I thought that was one of the reasons the Heat have almost no options for player movement this summer. They can't trade for another team's FA via sign-and-trade. Houston isn't trading Asik unless they sign Howard, and doing that puts them at the cap.

 

[magnifier661]

I would bet you my car and house that EVERY FUCKING TEAM IN THE ENTIRE NBA would rather start Nic Batum than Wright. If I'm wrong, PLEASE enlighten me.

The without missing the beat comment wasn't saying Batum is worse than wright, but asik + wright is better than Batum and a shitty center.

Still don't know if I agree with that though

 

[magnifier661]

The Blazers would have to sign Hickson, though. Eh, I may be wrong, but I thought that was one of the reasons the Heat have almost no options for player movement this summer. They can't trade for another team's FA via sign-and-trade. Houston isn't trading Asik unless they sign Howard, and doing that puts them at the cap.

We wouldn't use hickson and probably release him, or sign and trade to another team. This is the concept if we use Batum, instead of hickson.

 

[PapaG]

I would bet you my car and house that EVERY FUCKING TEAM IN THE ENTIRE NBA would rather start Nic Batum than Wright. If I'm wrong, PLEASE enlighten me.

Yeah, that was a pretty ridiculous statement. Wright is a very 'meh' player who had one decent season for a bad Golden State team.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Losing Batum would hurt so much for what he does.

Spreads the floor, plays good D, and is the 2nd best distributing SF only behind the great LeBron James. Can he improve? Most definitely but it's not like he hasn't gotten better every year. He is still only 24. Starting Wright just to add Asik in no way makes us a better team imo.

Is his contract high? I'd say it's about 2 mil over what it should be but let's be honest his contract isn't killing us at all as we never get big names in FA anyway.

 

[maxiep]

No. Next question.

 

[Reep]

I would bet you my car and house that EVERY FUCKING TEAM IN THE ENTIRE NBA would rather start Nic Batum than Wright. If I'm wrong, PLEASE enlighten me.

That's missing the point isn't it? The question is, would you rather have Batum and Leonard or Wright and Asik? I think it is a legitimate question. I like Batum a lot, but I would have to dig into this one. Having a solid defensive center would be very nice.

 

[THE HCP]

Losing Batum would hurt so much for what he does.

Spreads the floor, plays good D, and is the 2nd best distributing SF only behind the great LeBron James. Can he improve? Most definitely but it's not like he hasn't gotten better every year. He is still only 24. Starting Wright just to add Asik in no way makes us a better team imo.

Is his contract high? I'd say it's about 2 mil over what it should be but let's be honest his contract isn't killing us at all as we never get big names in FA anyway.

You are too new to make quality posts like this.

 

[BBert]

No. We don't have enough assets to trade them out, especially on a move that is lateral or worse. The only player I'm willing to trade is LaMarcus for a butt load of young assets/picks, or Freeland/Barton or a S&T of Hickson for a center.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Batum? Hell no. Hickson? I'd have to walk funny to hide my erection..

 

[Further]

No damn way, Batum is so much more talented,

Why is everyone going so gaga over Asik? I mean it would be nice to get him, he is a decent center, but nothing more than that. He is pretty good on D, pretty shitty on O. He is an unathletic big who has learned how to box out and rotate. He gets boards and is pretty good on D. he is like Przybilla light. Adding him would be good, but not some monster move worth sending out good talent.

 

[Pinwheel1]

No damn way, Batum is so much more talented,

Why is everyone going so gaga over Asik? I mean it would be nice to get him, he is a decent center, but nothing more than that. He is pretty good on D, pretty shitty on O. He is an unathletic big who has learned how to box out and rotate. He gets boards and is pretty good on D. he is like Przybilla light. Adding him would be good, but not some monster move worth sending out good talent.

I agree. He is better than what we have, but he is nothing special. None of them are. Coordinated on D and Un-coordinated on O. No doubt we need a big who is physical, can play D, and can rebound. But it sure would be nice if they could pass too. Don't get me wrong he would be a good get, but I would not give up Batum for him.

 

[riverman]

you beat me to it

No. Next question.