Would you waive Nolan?

[Rastapopoulos]

We haven't really seen enough to tell, but he sure doesn't look like an NBA player.

(Of course, you could say that of basically every Blazer right now, but I have seen SOME of them play well before. Not Nolan.)

Everyone complains that we didn't take Faried. We also didn't take Shumpert, who is at least a great athlete and a tenacious defender.

 

[magnifier661]

Um how about waiving Felton? Bring in mills.

 

[RR7]

Tell us what shit euro you'd replace him with.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

We took Nolan because he is a "Nate" guy. A younger version of Blake.

Gramps...

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Fucking Larry Miller.

I still stand by my personal boycott: I will not attend a Blazer game as long as he's connected with the team in any way.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

In his first year of a rookie contract??

Uh, no.

He deserves a fair shot for a few years. Then if he can't play, let him go.

 

[Rhal]

2 things shumpert was taken before smith and I know we havent seen nate give extended minutes to rookies esp point guards but Smith is a guy that needs to get used to the NBA. That means extended minutes and a somewhat forgiving coach before we can fully evaluate if he is a lost cause or not. Year 1 and 2 PG's tend to look a little lost at times even after playing a lot of minutes, you have to let them grow and develop.
We will have a better idea after we buyout Felton and give nolan the reigns for 22 games.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Tell us what shit euro you'd replace him with.

Huh? Is this some kind of defense of Nolan? Or are you just randomly xenophobic?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

shumpert was taken before smith

Oh yeah. I guess I had him mixed up with Reggie Jackson. Or Norris Cole.

 

[oldmangrouch]

If you waive Smith now, there is nobody available to replace him that will salvage this season.

If you are going to waive somebody - make it count. Waive Felton and openly admit it is for disciplinary reasons. Shake up the locker-room.

 

[alex42083]

I thought I read earlier this season how Nolan viewed Felton as a mentor.. pretty much shows the way he's playing.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I dunno, I don't see the point of waiving him right now (unless it's out of mercy to get him out of this horrible situation).

I say give him at least one off-season and one regular season under a real NBA coach before pulling the trigger.

 

[jlprk]

We haven't really seen enough to tell, but he sure doesn't look like an NBA player.

I see very good dribbling, very good shooting, and sharp decisions about passing from the playmaker. I have been pleasantly surprised, and I was critical, in the big draft-day thread, that we didn't take Faried.

The guy to cut is the coach who won't give us a nightly glimpse of all young 1st round picks.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I no longer want to waive Nolan. I guess Nate really did have something to answer for. Now I want Sergio back!

 

[Mediocre Man]

I no longer want to waive Nolan. I guess Nate really did have something to answer for. Now I want Sergio back!

And Bayless

 

[Sinobas]

I think he has the potential to be a very solid backup. He's shown that he can hit shots from different areas, he's not a total loose cannon like Armon Johnson, and seems more "point guardy" than Bayless. I'd just like to see him get more PT. So no, I'd not waive him after his rookie year. He looks a lot better than Babbit did.

 

[illmatic99]

Bayless was the one that had highest potential out of any of the point guards we have drafted in the last 8 years.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Bayless was the one that had highest potential out of any of the point guards we have drafted in the last 8 years.

Just not as a point guard.

 

[illmatic99]

Well he looks like one now. And with Brandon here, we didn't need a true PG anyway.

I remember even Bayless saying something along the lines of he was like Mo Williams to Brandon was to Lebron.

 

[illmatic99]

BTW, I'm pretty sure it was Nate that forced management to trade Bayless away because he was so in love with Armon in training camp.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Well he looks like one now.

In the same way that Monta Ellis looks like one. They're both short, I guess.

And with Brandon here, we didn't need a true PG anyway.

When will this myth die? If there is any truth to it, we needed a guy who could hit spot up threes when the defense collapsed on Roy, not a guy who needs the ball all the time and only looks to create for himself. Which is what Bayless is.

I remember even Bayless saying something along the lines of he was like Mo Williams to Brandon was to Lebron.

Sad that someone should aspire to be Mo Williams. Even sadder that he couldn't even make it.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

BTW, I'm pretty sure it was Nate that forced management to trade Bayless away because he was so in love with Armon in training camp.

I'm "pretty sure" it's Nate's fault that Oden's knees turned out to be made of soft chalk.

 

[illmatic99]

I'm inferring from here:

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2010/11/a_blessing_in_disguise_meet_ar.html

McMillan, who hands out praise to rookies sparingly, couldn’t help but let his guard down Tuesday night.

“For one thing, he is fearless. Just fearless,’’ McMillan said. “Defensively, he can pick up, and offensively he can get that tempo to how we want -- to push. But he can’t forget why we like him: It’s what he does on the defensive end.’’

Early in training camp, there was a sense among the Blazers that Johnson would come back down to Earth. But eventually, his progress became too hard to ignore. So hard, in fact, that general manager Rich Cho traded the man in front of him, third-year guard Jerryd Bayless, who was coming off somewhat of a breakout season, which included a pretty impressive postseason for the Blazers.

 

[PapaG]

I'm inferring from here:

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2010/11/a_blessing_in_disguise_meet_ar.html

I guess I'm missing the part where Cho traded Bayless because Nate made him do it.

 

[jlprk]

McMillan had no use for Bayless and was right. Bayless is an athlete but in the wrong sport. Babbitt will be better.

 

[Mediocre Man]

McMillan had no use for Bayless and was right. Bayless is an athlete but in the wrong sport. Babbitt will be better.

Bayless is averaging 17.8/5.3/3.0 as a starter playing 34 minutes per game this season for Toronto. He is shooting .450 from the field, 4.29 from 3 point and .837 on FT. Also only 2.09 TO per game.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Bayless is averaging 17.8/5.3/3.0 as a starter playing 34 minutes per game this season for Toronto. He is shooting .450 from the field, 4.29 from 3 point and .837 on FT. Also only 2.09 TO per game.

For the 15-30 Raptors, in a tight battle for our NJ lotto pick.

He's also only started 11 games.

 

[Mediocre Man]

For the 15-30 Raptors, in a tight battle for our NJ lotto pick.

He's also only started 11 games.

I don't understand your point?


4-7 with him in the starting line up, so the Raptors are better with him as a starter. Better yet when he starts without Calderon

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I don't understand your point?

I'm shocked you would stand up for Bayless on such a small sample size on a shitty team. Not just that anyone would, but that it'd be you.

That's my point.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I'm shocked you would stand up for Bayless on such a small sample size on a shitty team. Not just that anyone would, but that it'd be you.

That's my point.

Bayless has proved he can put up good numbers as a starter throughout his career. His teams have sucked in both NO and Toronto, but it's hardly his fault