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Last season he got his weight down to 275 lbs. He just reported to ST at 302 lbs.

Said CC, " I use to be able to roll out of bed & pitch 200 innings not its a little harder to do". Gee you fat out of shape bastard, I can't imagine why.
 
302? Well his center of gravity should be fine. Good lord!
 
Rick2583 said:
Last season he got his weight down to 275 lbs. He just reported to ST at 302 lbs.

Said CC, " I use to be able to roll out of bed & pitch 200 innings not its a little harder to do". Gee you fat out of shape bastard, I can't imagine why.
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If MLB used an old Chinese Calendar, then this would be the year of the Pig....!

From one years extreme to another. He obviously believes, he got into shape, lost more weight than normal last year, and could NOT find his fastball, amongst other things. Thus he believes by adding poundage, he can improve the velocity on his fastball?

He'll have to depend on his fork ball, since that's all he seems to know these days, eating utensils; or what time Dinner is Served.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
If MLB used an old Chinese Calendar, then this would be the year of the Pig....!

From one years extreme to another. He obviously believes, he got into shape, lost more weight than normal last year, and could NOT find his fastball, amongst other things. Thus he believes by adding poundage, he can improve the velocity on his fastball?

He'll have to depend on his fork ball, since that's all he seems to know these days, eating utensils; or what time Dinner is Served.[/QUOTE]


FORKBALL? Hell at the rate he's going he'll think a fork ball is a meat ball & he'll eat it.
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Rick2583 said:
Last season he got his weight down to 275 lbs. He just reported to ST at 302 lbs.

Said CC, " I use to be able to roll out of bed & pitch 200 innings not its a little harder to do". Gee you fat out of shape bastard, I can't imagine why.
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totus44 said:
302? Well his center of gravity should be fine. Good lord!
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If memory serves, didn't the last time he drop weight, his performance drastically deteriorated?
 
The losing weight never helped so maybe eating more burgers will translate into better numbers.
 
And btw: all, I was wrong (yeah I know its a rarity) his weight didn't go from 275 to 302. Actually it went from 275 to 305. But like Vic said maybe the extra weight will help.
 
Too bad fangraphs doesn't track pitcher's weight too.
 
...I can't remember a pitcher who got worse just because of weight gain...seems like CC pitched better when he was big and fluffy...Schilling wasn't exactly svelte...Wells or Colon either...I'm sure there are more.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I can't remember a pitcher who got worse just because of weight gain...seems like CC pitched better when he was big and fluffy...Schilling wasn't exactly svelte...Wells or Colon either...I'm sure there are more.
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Actually Wells got worse when he trimmed down IIRC.
 
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1968 World Series, Mc Lain was supposed to be the "ace: but it was portly Mickey Lolich getting the job done for his team. That series was special for me, Al Kaline was always one of my favorite players and I was glad to see him get a ring.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
1968 World Series, Mc Lain was supposed to be the "ace: but it was portly Mickey Lolich getting the job done for his team. That series was special for me, Al Kaline was always one of my favorite players and I was glad to see him get a ring.
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As a kid Detroit was always a fun team to watch with of course Kaline but also Willie Horton, Bill Freeham, Jim Northrup, Norm Cash & Dick McAuliffe
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I can't remember a pitcher who got worse just because of weight gain...seems like CC pitched better when he was big and fluffy...Schilling wasn't exactly svelte...Wells or Colon either...I'm sure there are more.
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Agree, and CC isn't a spring chicken and has a lot of mileage on him.
I have a novel suggestion, why don't we just wait and see (part of Cashman's "plan") how he responds and adjusts to this next phase of his career?
I know, I know....most of the jury has already rendered its verdict.
But this case isn't over yet. lol
 
Cashman's plan? His off season was like watching celebrity Amazing Race with Mr. Magoo.

If anything positive comes from it, I'm more apt to give credit to McCann and his mgmt of the staff.

No jury here, this is a bench trial....verdict depends on the hardware earned at the end of the season. Prosecution has a strong case and will close once ST is over. Then the defense can present The next 162 days. Running around claiming mistrial is falling on deaf ears.

Won't know where CC is until he's facing real batters in real games. Its unrealistic to have any expectations at this point in time. Right now all you have are hopes, wishes and faith.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
1968 World Series, Mc Lain was supposed to be the "ace: but it was portly Mickey Lolich getting the job done for his team. That series was special for me, Al Kaline was always one of my favorite players and I was glad to see him get a ring.
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For a non-Yanx World Series, 68 was by far one of my favorites. Facing Bob Gibson, after his 17 K, game one, did not look promising for the Tigers, yet:

(clip from the NY Times of 68)
"In ’68, Detroit was in dire straits. Swaths of the city had burned the summer before as it experienced one of the deadliest riots in American history. Tigers outfielder Willie Horton, who had grown up in the Detroit projects, went into the streets and pleaded with his fellow citizens to stop the burning and looting, to no avail. Meanwhile, his teammate Mickey Lolich went from the pitcher’s mound to patrolling downtown Detroit as a member of the National Guard. When the ’68 baseball season was delayed by King’s funeral, the Tigers players and athletes nationwide discovered that more eyes were upon them than they had realized."

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totus44 said:
Cashman's plan? His off season was like watching celebrity Amazing Race with Mr. Magoo.

If anything positive comes from it, I'm more apt to give credit to McCann and his mgmt of the staff.

No jury here, this is a bench trial....verdict depends on the hardware earned at the end of the season. Prosecution has a strong case and will close once ST is over. Then the defense can present The next 162 days. Running around claiming mistrial is falling on deaf ears.

Won't know where CC is until he's facing real batters in real games. Its unrealistic to have any expectations at this point in time. Right now all you have are hopes, wishes and faith.
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What? You mean NO Dreams?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I can't remember a pitcher who got worse just because of weight gain...seems like CC pitched better when he was big and fluffy...Schilling wasn't exactly svelte...Wells or Colon either...I'm sure there are more.
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Honestly one would think "a pitcher's weight doesn't matter". If a Pitcher can utilize transfer of weight, during his wind up, and delivery, with balance; one would think, a pitcher with a Beach Ball belly, like the Pig Terry Forster did, could then; get even more pop ie, increased speed of the pitch. If he can keep his head behind his hips, and use that semi-truck worth of inertia.
 
Rick2583 said:
As a kid Detroit was always a fun team to watch with of course Kaline but also Willie Horton, Bill Freeham, Jim Northrup, Norm Cash & Dick McAuliffe
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And a key move by mgr Mayo Smith was bringing in Mickey Stanley from the O.F. to play/ provide more offense at SS.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Honestly one would think "a pitcher's weight doesn't matter". If a Pitcher can utilize transfer of weight, during his wind up, and delivery, with balance; one would think, a pitcher with a Beach Ball belly, like the Pig Terry Forster did, could then; get even more pop ie, increased speed of the pitch. If he can keep his head behind his hips, and use that semi-truck worth of inertia.
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Wilbur Wood, Rick Reuschel? There's more.
 
He has a bum knee and I have to wonder if the extra weight will put the knee in even more jeopardy.
 
JeterRules20 said:
He has a bum knee and I have to wonder if the extra weight will put the knee in even more jeopardy.
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I do believe your on to something Jill......excess weight, excessive strains.....Isn't that why CC lost the weight prior to last year? To help out his ailing Knees??? I thought it was, yet.............!
 
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