Game Thread Yankees @ Rays 5/11/15 7:10PM

[blgridesagain]

...to put it perspective, CC's ERA is 5.20 and Boston's team ERA is 4.97.

Some keener perspective as we speak:

CC's ERA 5.20

Boston's SPs ERA
Mikey 6.91
Kelly 6.38
Buccholz 5.73
Masterson 5.18
Porcello (their ace lol) 4.30

Questions and comments welcomed......but please leave all bias in the closet.

 

[Rick2583]

CC may, or may not be done as "any kind" of a quality starter but tonight,
He pitched 7 innings, 6 H, 3 ER and 9 Ks.

MY jury hasn't come back YET with the verdict.

Mine has, he's a 4th starter at best.

 

[Messiah717]

WE HAVE THE ME

Some keener perspective:

CC's ERA 5.20

Boston's SPs ERA
Mikey 6.91
Kelly 6.38
Buccholz 5.73
Masterson 5.18
Porcello (their ace lol) 4.30

Questions and comments welcomed......but please leave all bias in the closet.

Their starting pitching blows. That's why I created a thread about it a few days ago.

 

[blgridesagain]

Mine has, he's a 4th starter at best.

Well, as I've said way back in ST, I'm going to give him at least the first couple of months of the season before I even consider taking the shovel out of the shed.
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It has also been said, CC is a VERY wild card, he could implode into oblivion, or he could "figure it out" and be a positive difference maker in this SP rotation.

We'll see where the chips fall one way or another, but I have a feeling it's going to take more than the first two months to find out....imho

 

[totus44]

And/or, possibly having a better ERA than ALOT of other middle of the rotation SPs I've been noticing.

Its called sarcasm you -snip-!

 

[Messiah717]

This is like not knowing Lorne Greene was from Canada.

 

[blgridesagain]

Its called sarcasm you -snip-!

First off, thanks for the insult.


Secondly, there are a few OTHER "#3" starters who would have trouble holding a 5 run lead and holding their ERA close to 6.00 on a given night.

Your sarcasm inadvertently helped keep things on an even keel in regards to CC and some of OUR opposition.

Well said.

 

[totus44]

Insult? Oy....you're missing the humor reference.

In the end, I was correct. Keeping his era below 6 did result in a win.

Here's another comedy reference.. . Lighten up Francis.

 

[blgridesagain]

Insult? Oy....you're missing the humor reference.

In the end, I was correct. Keeping his era below 6 did result in a win.

Here's another comedy reference.. . Lighten up Francis.

Lol

 

[blgridesagain]

Some keener perspective as we speak:

CC's ERA 5.20

Boston's SPs ERA
Mikey 6.91
Kelly 6.38
Buccholz 5.73
Masterson 5.18
Porcello (their ace lol) 4.30

Questions and comments welcomed......but please leave all bias in the closet.

Update - raise Rick (the Boston ace) Porcello's ERA up to 4.50.

 

[yankeesince59]

Some keener perspective as we speak:

CC's ERA 5.20

Boston's SPs ERA
Mikey 6.91
Kelly 6.38
Buccholz 5.73
Masterson 5.18
Porcello (their ace lol) 4.30

Questions and comments welcomed......but please leave all bias in the closet.

..."bias"?...the only fucking bias is that you still somehow think a 5.2 ERA is acceptable.

 

[yankeesince59]

Update - raise Rick (the Boston ace) Porcello's ERA up to 4.50.

...and?...is CC in any way considered to be an "ace"?...how about a #4 at best?

...would you care for another poll?

 

[yankeesince59]

First off, thanks for the insult.

...considering who it was directed at, Tote's comment could be construed as a compliment.

 

[Rick2583]

I hope I never see the day in this game where an ERA over 5 is acceptable. Of course I'm glad the Yankees won but the bottom line is once again CC was only able to pitch more then 6 innings before he fell apart. Its the same song over & over. Like I said, a #4 at best & unable to give a good 6+ innings on a regular basis.

 

[yankeesince59]

I hope I never see the day in this game where an ERA over 5 is acceptable. Of course I'm glad the Yankees won but the bottom line is once again CC was only able to pitch more then 6 innings before he fell apart. Its the same song over & over. Like I said, a #4 at best & unable to give a good 6+ innings on a regular basis.

...there you go again...trying to "influence" people.

 

[Rick2583]

I'm a baaaaaaaaad boy (Lou Costello)

 

[Mattingly23NY]

CC #4 at best, Yep.........

"if you come to a fork in the road take it".....

 

[blgridesagain]

Fill me in - Who said a 5.20 ERA is acceptable, and who said CC is an "ace"?

 

[Mattingly23NY]

This is like not knowing Lorne Greene was from Canada.

and-

Elle McPherson is an Aussie, but then alot of racks look alike, regardless of country of origin..........

 

[Mattingly23NY]

I better clarify for Rick and Tote: a Rack is not the Points of a Deer-Buck's horns, rather its females, well, you know, breasts......ahhhhhh...!

 

[cagedlion]

Well, it took over a year for a CC win. Imagine, it's been
13 months since the Yankees got a W from this guy.

I guess the "jury" will be in deliberation for a while. lol

 

[blgridesagain]

I hope I never see the day in this game where an ERA over 5 is acceptable. Of course I'm glad the Yankees won but the bottom line is once again CC was only able to pitch more then 6 innings before he fell apart. Its the same song over & over. Like I said, a #4 at best & unable to give a good 6+ innings on a regular basis.

Rick, he pitched 7 innings allowed 3 ER on 6 H with 9 Ks.
Can we agree he gave us a "good start" to begin the road trip?
Or at least a "pretty good" start?

Unless the team is firmly entrenched into being a LOW scoring team....the above pitching line is quite acceptable ( imo ) alot of the time from the #3,4 or 5 SP.

Sure, of course I want to see a couple/ few games where "they" allow less than 3 or 2 runs over 7 or more innings.

I know CC has already been written off by many, but as we speak, he's just pitched a pretty good game.....some may even call it a GOOD game.

 

[yankeesince59]

Fill me in - Who said a 5.20 ERA is acceptable, and who said CC is an "ace"?

...you were the one who decided to bring up Porcello....why did you compare his ERA to Boston's "ace" whose ERA is still 3/4 of a run lower than CC's?. ..kinda dumb on your part.
...after I referenced Boston's team ERA you decided to cherry pick once again by showing only their four worst starters in an attempt to make CC's 5.2 ERA somehow look good...also dumb on your part.

...And yeah, "4 runs in 7 innings" is OK, (acceptable) remember?

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[Mattingly23NY]

1 decent start (if you want to call it that, a bit over-hyped of a term for CC's win)......

We will know if CC is learning how to pitch with finesse over months to come. 1 game; 1 Win, 5 Losses; doth not make for an Ace.......

Had it not of been for 4 HR's and double digit runs, CC would of lost this one too.....

 

[Mattingly23NY]

...you were the one who decided to bring up Porcello....why did you compare his ERA to Boston's "ace" whose ERA is still 3/4 of a run lower than CC's?. ..kinda dumb on your part.
...after I referenced Boston's team ERA you decided to cherry pick once again by showing only their four worst starters in an attempt to make CC's 5.2 ERA somehow look good...also dumb on your part.

...And yeah, "4 runs in 7 innings" is OK, (acceptable) remember?

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You've got an ACORN on your heels, your personal private stalker.........!!!

 

[yankeesince59]

^^^more like a hemorrhoid.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

^^^more like a hemorrhoid.

Yep, I can see that too.....

 

[Rick2583]

^^^more like a hemorrhoid.

External or internal?

 

[blgridesagain]

Well, it took over a year for a CC win. Imagine, it's been
13 months since the Yankees got a W from this guy.

I guess the "jury" will be in deliberation for a while. lol

As "wins" for CC are at issue this season, the Yanks are averaging 3.43 runs per start for him in his 7 starts.

Nope, I'm not saying he's having a "good year" so far....but there ARE pitchers with more than one "win" who have a comparable ERA to CC.

 

[blgridesagain]

1 decent start (if you want to call it that, a bit over-hyped of a term for CC's win)......

We will know if CC is learning how to pitch with finesse over months to come. 1 game; 1 Win, 5 Losses; doth not make for an Ace.......

Had it not of been for 4 HR's and double digit runs, CC would of lost this one too.....

Hold on a minute.....are you saying 7 IP, 6 H , 3 ER with 9 Ks is not a good outing?
And, as far as ridiculing him for having only one win, the Yanks are averaging 3.43 runs per game for him when he starts.

Oh, incidentally, I have never described or called CC an "ace" in his comeback from last year's knee surgery..... The best I was hoping for, and believing BEFORE the season and ST began was for him to be a solid # 3 SP as the season progressed....and I even went as far as to give him at least the first two months of the season before I began "to think about getting the shovel out of the shed" ◀ quote

So, all of a sudden we need CC to "avg" 7-8 IP per start allowing less than 3 runs or else he's a bad middle of the rotation SP?

If that's your opinion, I'll respect it.