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Re: OT Yao to possibly miss next season and beyond

Fez said:
Artest is only 8 months younger...
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Yes but look at Artest's chiseled frame now note the Pillsbury Doughboy like body of Hedo. Hedo's training of his body is routinely brought into question I think that will shave years off of his career and Artest will hold up better.

The entire question around Artest is attitude. Will he defer to Roy? Will he be a good or at least neutral locker room presence? If the answers to those two questions are yes then you sign Artest and you do it July 1st.
 
Re: OT Yao to possibly miss next season and beyond

Idog1976 said:
The entire question around Artest is attitude. Will he defer to Roy? Will he be a good or at least neutral locker room presence? If the answers to those two questions are yes then you sign Artest and you do it July 1st.
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I think he would. You heard what he said about Roy in the Playoffs.
 
oldmangrouch said:
I hate to see this - even for a rival team.

Some Houston fans may have been douchebags during the play-offs...but Yao as an individual has always been pretty classy (and often just plain fun to watch).
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...just another reason to HATE the Lakers!!!
 
Very sad to hear this for me too, he seemed like real mellow and cool. I don't wish this kind of stuff on rivals.
 
Re: OT Yao to possibly miss next season and beyond

hasoos said:
I am starting to wonder whether there is a certain size that you just can't take the beating of NBA ball. That is a lot of weight going through punishment on a nightly basis. The only players of that size that lasted any time in the NBA were all skinny as rails. Guys like Manute Bol. All of the others that had a normal sized frame, instead of a 7'6" travis outlaw type frame, have foot injuries up the wazoo.
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Shaq, Duckworth, and Mark Eaton are examples of big bulky guys who had long careers.
 
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Sinobas said:
Shaq, Duckworth, and Mark Eaton are examples of big bulky guys who had long careers.
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He might have been talking about the size AND the height of Yao.
 
I'd just posted about this in another thread a few days ago.

I think Houston has to tank this year, and tank hard. Do what the Spurs did the year Robinson went out with injury, and just pray you get the right lottery balls for a franchise player. Let McGrady come off the books and don't pick up Artest. Hell, maybe even pawn off Battier for proven youth. They should have a crapload of cap space they can go after big names next summer, even if they don't have an amazing draft. And if Yao can come back, wow. They could be looking at contending a year from now with some luck.

They'd have no interest in Joel this year. The team I'm describing probably wins 17 games. Why pay Joel so you can win 23?

Meanwhile, I'm all about getting Ron Artest on this team.

Come on, Pritchard! DO IT.

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Re: In light of Yao possibly being out for next year...

Minstrel said:
Such a shame. I really like Yao as a player...he's the best offensive center in the game right now, and a lot of fun to watch (when his teammates are getting him the ball and he's not killing Portland).

Had he had a long, uninjured career, he could have been a Hall of Fame possibility.

Hate seeing players cut down early. Houston has had really bad luck with that in my lifetime...Ralph Sampson, Tracy McGrady and maybe Yao.
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Of the three I think Sampson was the most unfortunate. That dude was a total freak and great to watch.

McGrady was already beat down even before Houston.

Yao, though. Man. Although the Rockets can look at Big Z for hope. I never thought he would be productive again, but he has managed to get his feet right enough to play quality minutes. Yao may need to set out a couple of years to get it done.

On the plus side, maybe they get Yao a big time teammate similar to how things worked out for the Spurs the year Robinson was down.
 
Re: OT Yao to possibly miss next season and beyond

BrianWheeler said:
He might have been talking about the size AND the height of Yao.
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He didn't say it was a sure thing, but the likelihood of a career ending foot injury increases dramatically based on size.

Also, Walton wasn't exactly built like a tank, but foot problems derailed his career.
 
Boy, playing Yao those 40+ minutes per game during our series with Houston sure doesn't look so smart, now does it?
 
apparently the rockets have confirmed this and the fracture has actually spread instead of healing.

this sucks.
 
rocketeer said:
apparently the rockets have confirmed this and the fracture has actually spread instead of healing.

this sucks.
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We all know how you feel. It was the same crushing blow that Blazer fans felt back before the 07-08 season when Oden was declared "done for the season."
 
Natebishop3 said:
We all know how you feel. It was the same crushing blow that Blazer fans felt back before the 07-08 season when Oden was declared "done for the season."
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no, not at all. this is yao's career possibly over.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Boy, playing Yao those 40+ minutes per game during our series with Houston sure doesn't look so smart, now does it?
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i don't have any problem with it. but letting him stay on the court in game 3 against the lakers when he was obviously hurting looks terrible now.
 
rocketeer said:
no, not at all. this is yao's career possibly over.
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as opposed to MF surgery which takes away athleticism... from a Center who relies on that athleticism. Not trying to downlplay Yao's injury... but you have enjoyed some years of production.. we are hoping to from ours.
 
rocketeer said:
i don't have any problem with it. but letting him stay on the court in game 3 against the lakers when he was obviously hurting looks terrible now.
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I agree with this. This sucks for Yao, Rocket fans, and basketball fans in general. A guy that big with a non-healing fracture of his foot, ankle, or whatever part of his wheel is a bad recipe. He should really think about taking this next year off. I hope his career isn't over. That would suck.
 
Re: OT Yao to possibly miss next season and beyond

LittleAlex said:
He didn't say it was a sure thing, but the likelihood of a career ending foot injury increases dramatically based on size.

Also, Walton wasn't exactly built like a tank, but foot problems derailed his career.
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no he didnt.. yet I'm sure anyone can realize that more weight means more pressure on the foot.. increasing the likelyhood of an injury like this.
 
Re: OT Yao to possibly miss next season and beyond

BrianWheeler said:
no he didnt.. yet I'm sure anyone can realize that more weight means more pressure on the foot.. increasing the likelyhood of an injury like this.
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A total side note, but Shaq is just a freak physically. How he hasn't broken down yet is one of life's great mysteries.
 
Re: OT Yao to possibly miss next season and beyond

PapaG said:
A total side note, but Shaq is just a freak physically. How he hasn't broken down yet is one of life's great mysteries.
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I'll agree to that.. total specimen.
 
Sad news for the NBA.

Yao was a unique player who brought attributes to his position you can't find in anybody else. Personally, I enjoy his personality and thought he handled himself very well (and professionally) given his international popularity.

Houston is/was a huge contender for the Blazers . . . but still I am sadden to hear this. Yao is a player/presence in the NBA that cannot be replaced. I hope to see him play at 100% again someday.
 
BrianWheeler said:
as opposed to MF surgery which takes away athleticism... from a Center who relies on that athleticism. Not trying to downlplay Yao's injury... but you have enjoyed some years of production.. we are hoping to from ours.
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oden's career was never in doubt from the microfracture.

with yao's fracture in his foot actually spreading rather than healing after 8 weeks when they initially thought it would heal in 8-12 weeks, it's not necessarily something he's going to recover from.
 
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Re: OT Yao to possibly miss next season and beyond

Sinobas said:
Shaq, Duckworth, and Mark Eaton are examples of big bulky guys who had long careers.
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Anybody who has done physics experience knows that the longer the tool used to issue torque force on a physical entity that it will multiply the amount of force put on the physical matter that you are pushing. Tall players have much longer legs, back, arms, etc. What I was saying was perhaps when you reach a certain size (note size means height not weight in this term) the amount of force gets to where it overwhelms human bone.

So say for instance, in this case Yao.

Yao pushes off with his foot and leg to get a rebound. Because Yao's length of his leg is longer than say Shaq's, this increases the force put on his foot, to the point where his bones fail. That is what I am saying.


If you take 2 sticks of the same diameter one is short and one is long, which one is easier to break? The long one. Because you can get more torque on it with the same force being applied. Yao is a long stick. Shaq is a short stick. Duckworth was a short stick. Mark Eaton was a bigger stick then Shaq and Duck, but a shorter one than Yao.

Ok I have yammered enough.
 
rocketeer said:
oden's career was never in doubt from the microfracture.

with yao's fracture in his foot actually spread rather than healing after 8 weeks when they initially thought it would heal in 8-12 weeks, it's not necessarily something he's going to recover from.
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maybe not career.. but production.. and how he will recover.
 
rocketeer said:
maybe his rookie year production, but i don't believe oden's ultimate production has really been altered in any significant way.
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I hope you are right. Our Championship window depends on it.
 
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