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Yao is Yao，Yi is Yi，Yao is a C，Yi is a Pf，Rockets is a western team and Nets is a eastern team，why compare between Yao and Yi。。。。
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Locke @ Jul 24 2008, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why can't Yi be a 20/10 guy? It's his 2nd year and he's only 20. Mo Williams and Redd froze him out last year. This year, with 25+ minutes per game and a team willing to share the ball, he can do 15/8 no problem.</div>
He could be as old as 24
 
Go Tang Man! Only an idiot can't see that greater than 20 equals 22.3. Silly AhLian, you should no better.

Shake

My

Head.

(Seriously, Tang. Stop being a trolling douche. There was a good discussion going on, and you come in a nit-pick over 2 points. It's unacceptable.)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingd15 @ Jul 24 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly never understood the huge difference between being a 22 year old and a 20 year old in the league and how one age makes you hit your potential wall while the other age means the sky's the limit. Sure it's two years but everyone learns differently, enters their primes at different time. It actually really pisses me off. I think if you just take yearly progressions of players, it would be a much better estimate as opposed to "this guy's ceiling" or blah blah. People are constantly adjusting their game, see Michael Jordan, Vince Carter, as examples. It's how they adapt. I personally think Yi has a great chance at adapting to the US game because he has a mean streak and is not a push over. I'm glad he called out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs. That means he wants the damn ball. I think he's got the mentality, now he's just gotta put it together, and if he's 20, 22, 50, whatever, let's let him play in our uptempo, shooter friendly system, and see how it goes, :-D.

WOO......</div>

When did Yi call out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs? I may have missed this but could you provide a source? Thanks.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 25 2008, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Go Tang Man! Only an idiot can't see that greater than 20 equals 22.3. Silly AhLian, you should no better.

Shake

My

Head.

(Seriously, Tang. Stop being a trolling douche. There was a good discussion going on, and you come in a nit-pick over 2 points. It's unacceptable.)</div>

I missed the "over" part of the 20pts; but to speculate "over" would be to provide a whole new branch of possibilities. 30pts is also over 20, as is 40. Who's fault is it for not being clear? When speculating, please use terms: around, about, etc instead of placement terms: above, lower than, etc.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingd15 @ Jul 24 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly never understood the huge difference between being a 22 year old and a 20 year old in the league and how one age makes you hit your potential wall while the other age means the sky's the limit. Sure it's two years but everyone learns differently, enters their primes at different time. It actually really pisses me off. I think if you just take yearly progressions of players, it would be a much better estimate as opposed to "this guy's ceiling" or blah blah. People are constantly adjusting their game, see Michael Jordan, Vince Carter, as examples. It's how they adapt. I personally think Yi has a great chance at adapting to the US game because he has a mean streak and is not a push over. I'm glad he called out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs. That means he wants the damn ball. I think he's got the mentality, now he's just gotta put it together, and if he's 20, 22, 50, whatever, let's let him play in our uptempo, shooter friendly system, and see how it goes, :-D.

WOO......</div>

When did Yi call out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs? I may have missed this but could you provide a source? Thanks.
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I thought I had read that in another topic thread, the one where someone thought Yi was arrogant and wouldn't be a star. I could be wrong, though, sorry for the trouble.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingd15 @ Jul 25 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingd15 @ Jul 24 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly never understood the huge difference between being a 22 year old and a 20 year old in the league and how one age makes you hit your potential wall while the other age means the sky's the limit. Sure it's two years but everyone learns differently, enters their primes at different time. It actually really pisses me off. I think if you just take yearly progressions of players, it would be a much better estimate as opposed to "this guy's ceiling" or blah blah. People are constantly adjusting their game, see Michael Jordan, Vince Carter, as examples. It's how they adapt. I personally think Yi has a great chance at adapting to the US game because he has a mean streak and is not a push over. I'm glad he called out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs. That means he wants the damn ball. I think he's got the mentality, now he's just gotta put it together, and if he's 20, 22, 50, whatever, let's let him play in our uptempo, shooter friendly system, and see how it goes, :-D.

WOO......</div>

When did Yi call out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs? I may have missed this but could you provide a source? Thanks.
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I thought I had read that in another topic thread, the one where someone thought Yi was arrogant and wouldn't be a star. I could be wrong, though, sorry for the trouble.
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I think that could be mixed in with the idea that his handlers last year gave Milwaukee a bad time for drafting him. Complaining about playing time, care for injuries, no fans. Someone had posted that management was glad to have finally gotten rid of Yi because of his handlers. I don't think of Yi as being arrogant, but just looking at the people he trusts with his career giving Milwaukee management a bad time throughout the season, can swell a guy's head. IN NJ he's going to have the best of both worlds, the media market, yet not being IN the media market. His handlers can choose what to do and when to do it, knowing them, they're diving in full bore, but it could be taxing on Yi. On the basketball side of things, can't get any better than having a GM like Thorn and Kiki on his side. Plus I think Frank will get Yi to work on his weaknesses.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingd15 @ Jul 24 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly never understood the huge difference between being a 22 year old and a 20 year old in the league and how one age makes you hit your potential wall while the other age means the sky's the limit. Sure it's two years but everyone learns differently, enters their primes at different time. It actually really pisses me off. I think if you just take yearly progressions of players, it would be a much better estimate as opposed to "this guy's ceiling" or blah blah. People are constantly adjusting their game, see Michael Jordan, Vince Carter, as examples. It's how they adapt. I personally think Yi has a great chance at adapting to the US game because he has a mean streak and is not a push over. I'm glad he called out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs. That means he wants the damn ball. I think he's got the mentality, now he's just gotta put it together, and if he's 20, 22, 50, whatever, let's let him play in our uptempo, shooter friendly system, and see how it goes, :-D.

WOO......</div>

When did Yi call out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs? I may have missed this but could you provide a source? Thanks.
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Yi didn't call them out, the fans did. For instance, on Dec 22, Yi had 29 points. Redd froze out Yi during the 4th Quarter, he didn't get a chance to break 30 points. There were a lot of times when Redd would pad his stats at the expense of his own teammates. This style of selfishness spread over the season.

I don't know what it means when a rookie has his best month in December and then collapse for the rest of the season. Probably mental fatigue. Yet, Yi's bad play is consistent with the results of the Bucks team overall.
 
I don't understand why Yi stopped shooting 3's after December + January. He shot like 4 when he played Yao the first time.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand why Yi stopped shooting 3's after December + January. He shot like 4 when he played Yao the first time.</div>

Maybe he shot 2 of them genius
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand why Yi stopped shooting 3's after December + January. He shot like 4 when he played Yao the first time.</div>

Maybe he shot 2 of them genius
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Wtf are you talking about?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand why Yi stopped shooting 3's after December + January. He shot like 4 when he played Yao the first time.</div>

Maybe he shot 2 of them genius
</div>

Wtf are you talking about?
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2/2 from 3 on nov 9th. Or am I having trouble reading his statline?


Edit: no, I can read a boxscore.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 25 2008, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand why Yi stopped shooting 3's after December + January. He shot like 4 when he played Yao the first time.</div>

Maybe he shot 2 of them genius
</div>

Wtf are you talking about?
</div>

2/2 from 3 on nov 9th. Or am I having trouble reading his statline?


Edit: no, I can read a boxscore.
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I see someone has a problem with people from foreign lands.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jul 25 2008, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 25 2008, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand why Yi stopped shooting 3's after December + January. He shot like 4 when he played Yao the first time.</div>

Maybe he shot 2 of them genius
</div>

Wtf are you talking about?
</div>

2/2 from 3 on nov 9th. Or am I having trouble reading his statline?


Edit: no, I can read a boxscore.
</div>

I see someone has a problem with people from foreign lands.

I see that too, not so nice..
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jul 25 2008, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 25 2008, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 25 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand why Yi stopped shooting 3's after December + January. He shot like 4 when he played Yao the first time.</div>

Maybe he shot 2 of them genius
</div>

Wtf are you talking about?
</div>

2/2 from 3 on nov 9th. Or am I having trouble reading his statline?


Edit: no, I can read a boxscore.
</div>

I see someone has a problem with people from foreign lands.
</div>

What like Canada?
 
Whatever. Just because a guy's named jerkstore dosen't mean he's a jerk. there's 2 pages of back and forth snippiness involving accurate stat information. For your information I was trying to come up with a constructive post and then when I checked the info I found it was wrong.

Sorry for being an asshole, but I don't need a pocket translator to check someone on snippiness if I feel like it, my bad.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 25 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Locke @ Jul 24 2008, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why can't Yi be a 20/10 guy? It's his 2nd year and he's only 20. Mo Williams and Redd froze him out last year. This year, with 25+ minutes per game and a team willing to share the ball, he can do 15/8 no problem.</div>
He could be as old as 24
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Even he was 24, is no big deal man. Again like other people mentioned: age here is not an issue.


P.S: the rest of you guys who are arguing about 2 points difference are so FUNNY!! I thought people had better things to do here in NJ... am i wrong?
 
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