Your 2019-20 Blazers

[hoopsjock]

If we could find a way to keep Kanter AND Hood that 2nd unit looks A LOT better.

Yeah, I was going to elaborate on the different routes we could take after that but one of them would include keeping Kanter and Hood which I think we could do if the rest happened.

 

[illmatic99]

This trade leaves out a huge problem. Butler is going to be making $32.7 million, not $20 million.

It's just the framework.

ET/Collins/picks/salary filler du jour to NO.
Holiday/filler to PHI
Butler to POR

 

[calvin natt]

Ffffffff no to Jimmy Butler.

 

[dviss1]

Can we make this happen? I'd love this. So much Defense EVERYWHERE.

Starters
Dame
Jrue
Butler
Collins
Nurk(eventually)

Reserves
Simons
Hood
Prince
Skal
Kanter

 

[hoopsjock]

You’re assuming they’re going to be contenders next year? Besides Butler, Tobias Harris and Redick are also free agents. So are some other rotational players like Mike Scott, Ennis (who’s already declined his option), Boban, and McConnell.

They could be a fringe playoff team real quick, especially if Butler decides to bounce, which to me is very likely.

1) Do you think they would realistically decide to go back to the process instead of trying to take the next step in the playoffs?

2) Even if all those guys left they would have cap space to pursue other free agents and unbalanced trades, you think they'd give that up for Simons?

 

[hoopsjock]

Can we make this happen? I'd love this. So much Defense EVERYWHERE.

Starters
Dame
Jrue
Butler
Collins
Nurk(eventually)

Reserves
Simons
Hood
Prince
Skal
Kanter

Yes, if we were able to make the three trades I mentioned we'd open up the Full-MLE and could at the very least keep one of Kanter or Hood, probably both.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

LOL. Stop.

We. Simply. Need. A. New. Coach.

Coach cant make the ball go in, they got open shots and bricked, well there was air balls in there too. Then defensively, yeah the scheme sucks but couldn't guard them either. Its not all Stotts, its a team pounding they took. Stotts might be a bad coach, but I doubt he was in the huddle saying, hey guys dont pick up Draymond as he sprints down the floor, and make sure to keep jogging back in transition...

 

[dviss1]

Ffffffff no to Jimmy Butler.

He was the main reason Philly stayed in it. His personality is NOT stronger than Dame's and our team is full of hard workers.

Bro... Don't you know The Lord of Light Hearted Lockeroom Chemistry Smiles upon our brotherhood???

 

[dviss1]

Coach cant make the ball go in, they got open shots and bricked, well there was air balls in there too. Then defensively, yeah the scheme sucks but couldn't guard them either. Its not all Stotts, its a team pounding they took. Stotts might be a bad coach, but I doubt he was in the huddle saying, hey guys dont pick up Draymond as he sprints down the floor, and make sure to keep jogging back in transition...

I'm sorry, this loss is ALL on Stotts. I see no other one to blame. Our team is equipped to play many defensive schemes.

But when you have a punk ass coach who doesn't input schemes all season and attempts to do it on the fly, IN THE FUCKING PLAYOFFS....

The more I look at his offense the more I see how BASIC it is compared to the other teams in the playoffs.

He's GOT to go.

 

[dviss1]

hey guys dont pick up Draymond as he sprints down the floor, and make sure to keep jogging back in transition...

A team not playing hard and not staying engaged is a reflection of the coach. Plain and simple.

 

[hoopsjock]

Coach cant make the ball go in, they got open shots and bricked, well there was air balls in there too. Then defensively, yeah the scheme sucks but couldn't guard them either. Its not all Stotts, its a team pounding they took. Stotts might be a bad coach, but I doubt he was in the huddle saying, hey guys dont pick up Draymond as he sprints down the floor, and make sure to keep jogging back in transition...

If we run the fucking play where we just hand off to one of the two guards up top and let them try and create something against a trap I'm going to gouge my fucking eyes out.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I'm sorry, this loss is ALL on Stotts. I see no other one to blame. Our team is equipped to play many defensive schemes.

But when you have a punk ass coach who doesn't input schemes all season and attempts to do it on the fly, IN THE FUCKING PLAYOFFS....

The more I look at his offense the more I see how BASIC it is compared to the other teams in the playoffs.

He's GOT to go.

Yeah it's basic and doesn't have movement but Aminu and Harkless can't pass at all really, they aren't even good at moving without the ball. Can't start both of those either. I think coaches and players gotta go just moving Stotts isn't going to make them be able to do basic basketball stuff all of a sudden...

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

If we run the fucking play where we just hand off to one of the two guards up top and let them try and create something against a trap I'm going to gouge my fucking eyes out.

You don't like the play where we just keep handing off at the top and running in circles 30 feet away from the basket where literally the only people moving are the wings/guards running 90 feet every play lol.

 

[hoopsjock]

You don't like the play where we just keep handing off at the top and running in circles 30 feet away from the basket where literally the only people moving are the wings/guards running 90 feet every play lol.

Oh yeah, it's awesome to do all that pointless work and then still not have anyone open with just a few seconds left on the shot clock.

 

[dviss1]

Yeah it's basic and doesn't have movement but Aminu and Harkless can't pass at all really, they aren't even good at moving without the ball. Can't start both of those either. I think coaches and players gotta go just moving Stotts isn't going to make them be able to do basic basketball stuff all of a sudden...

I completely disagree that Harkless isn't good at moving without the ball.

I will counter with the fact that Terry's offense doesn't allow it.

We almost never cut. EVER. We're too busy doing dribble hand offs at the top of the key and flare screens.

There should be constant movement downhill toward the basket but he'd rather put our guards in position to do something off the dribble.

His rotations are a complete other pile of shit.

 

[dviss1]

Oh yeah, it's awesome to do all that pointless work and then still not have anyone open with just a few seconds left on the shot clock.

There are ZERO cuts to the basket in that offense. Sometimes the dribble handoff guy can FAKE the dribble handoff Terry... There's a thought...

He'll get a better matchup too as the guard will have to make a decision...

You know... Basic shit...

 

[OneSport3]

According to Chris Haynes, Dame will be getting the supermax this summer, meaning he is locked in until he is 34 years old. This is all-in or nothing time for Portland. If they take a win now approach, I think the moves below will make Portland a serious contender.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6epgf6n

CJ McCollum/Gary Trent Jr to NOP for Jrue Holiday: Holiday is not as an explosive scorer as CJ, but his defensive superiority is much needed in the backcourt. Having Dame and CJ as the defensive liabilities makes it extremely difficult to be an elite defensive team.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyjxncyh

Evan Turner/Mo Harklesss/2019 1st round pick to DET for Blake Griffin: This is a risky move with Blake's injury history, but he could be had for relatively low value. Detroit has been rumored to want to move on from Blake and enter full rebuild. Turner and Mo will be on the last year of their contracts and will allow DET to start the rebuild.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6q53nhp

Meyers Leonard to MIN for Robert Covington: Covington would help at SF as he is a prototypical 3 and D player.

 

[hoopsjock]

According to Chris Haynes, Dame will be getting the supermax this summer, meaning he is locked in until he is 34 years old. This is all-in or nothing time for Portland. If they take a win now approach, I think the moves below will make Portland a serious contender.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6epgf6n

CJ McCollum/Gary Trent Jr to NOP for Jrue Holiday: Holiday is not as an explosive scorer as CJ, but his defensive superiority is much needed in the backcourt. Having Dame and CJ as the defensive liabilities makes it extremely difficult to be an elite defensive team.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyjxncyh

Evan Turner/Mo Harklesss/2019 1st round pick to DET for Blake Griffin: This is a risky move with Blake's injury history, but he could be had for relatively low value. Detroit has been rumored to want to move on from Blake and enter full rebuild. Turner and Mo will be on the last year of their contracts and will allow DET to start the rebuild.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6q53nhp

Meyers Leonard to MIN for Robert Covington: Covington would help at SF as he is a prototypical 3 and D player.

I don't know if any of those other teams would do those trades except for maybe the 1st one but if we're trading CJ directly to New Orleans I would hope it would be in a package for Anthony Davis, not Jrue.

 

[Chris Craig]

Yes, if we were able to make the three trades I mentioned we'd open up the Full-MLE and could at the very least keep one of Kanter or Hood, probably both.

Can two players split the MLE?

 

[hoopsjock]

Can two players split the MLE?

Yes, we did that last year with Curry and Trent.

 

[hoopsjock]

Can two players split the MLE?

It doesn't really make sense to split it with Hood being one of the recipients though because it isn't that much more than we could just sign him outright for anyway ($4.15 million versus about $4.7 million).

 

[wizenheimer]

great trade ideas for Portland except for one little detail: none of those other teams have a drunk Billy King as GM

I mean, would Portland trade CJ for Soloman Hill, John Henson and a late 1st? Hey, Hill and Henson are expiring!!

 

[Scalma]

I didn’t feel this way at the deadline when he was still injured and before our deep playoff run, but I could see Olshey pursue Kevin Love. Contract aside, he’s an excellent fit basketball wise.

Simons, #25, and Turner works financially. We lose Simons, but we keep the core intact. Simons fits Cleveland as they’re rebuilding and have no long term guards outside of Sexton.

 

[OneSport3]

great trade ideas for Portland except for one little detail: none of those other teams have a drunk Billy King as GM

I mean, would Portland trade CJ for Soloman Hill, John Henson and a late 1st? Hey, Hill and Henson are expiring!!

No, Portland would not because they are NOT in rebuild mode. Detroit on the other hand has been said to be in rebuild mode with the intention of moving Blake Griffin's massive contract.

 

[Hoopguru]

Changes?
Brah.

Portland next year will be as follows.

Lillard
CJ
Harkless
ET
Nards(Until Nurk is healthy)

Rando vet min guard
Hood
Layman
Aminu
Collins

Once Nurk is back Nards will ride the bench until he's traded to Philly or the 2020 offseason.

If it's anything other than this. I will be shocked.

Can we make this happen? I'd love this. So much Defense EVERYWHERE.

Starters
Dame
Jrue
Butler
Collins
Nurk(eventually)

Reserves
Simons
Hood
Prince
Skal
Kanter

who's your coach?

 

[dviss1]

who's your coach?

Jeff Van Gundy.

 

[Scalma]

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Love
Nurkic

We’d be getting Love for his age 31-34 seasons. Not too bad, especially for a guy who doesn’t rely on athleticism. And unlike some of these other proposals, we’d actually be dealing with a team that’d likely be interested in our younger assets/expirings. We take on the contract, but that’s the tradeoff for not sacrificing your best players.

 

[OneSport3]

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Love
Nurkic

We’d be getting Love for his age 31-34 seasons. Not too bad, especially for a guy who doesn’t rely on athleticism. And unlike some of these other proposals, we’d actually be dealing with a team that’d likely be interested in our younger assets/expirings. We take on the contract, but that’s the tradeoff for not sacrificing your best players.

Love is a great player, but the defense would be abysmal with Love, CJ and Dame.

 

[Scalma]

Love is a great player, but the defense would be abysmal with Love, CJ and Dame.

I mean we got to the conference finals without our best defender and Enes Kanter starting.

 

[OneSport3]

I mean we got to the conference finals without our best defender and Enes Kanter starting.

Kanter was a cheap, rental contract that was a gap-fill. His defense finally got exposed in the Warriors series and didn't play much.