Your best (worst) memory of the bad era

[KingSpeed]

What was wrong with Kenny? He seemed pretty professional in his 1-plus year here, he played hard and I think played some of his best ball here. Of course, we ran into the Lakers that one year, but I was a big Kenny fan and thought he played his heart out.

I assumed he meant Derek Anderson

 

[Minstrel]

Fortunately KP was able to move those peieces one way or the other, actually getting value for some of it.

All that's left is moving Webster.

 

[LittleAlex]

I assumed he meant Derek Anderson

I can't play because my tooth hurts.

 

[maxiep]

I can't play because my tooth hurts.

Do you need a lift to Mickey D's?

 

[KingSpeed]

Y'all forgot about the game when all the fans threw the Bill Walton dolls on the court. That was a great fucking game.

Also, don't forget this:

[video=youtube;n560gRzJnCY]

 

[STOMP]

The "financial defense" doesn't work for me.

Theo Ratliff EXTENDED?

Darius Miles EXTENDED?

Zach Randolph EXTENDED?

not to nitpick, but Darius was resigned not extended. Nash defenders/blowhards claimed Paul Allen mandated this resigning to spread the blame for the disaster that was, but they pulled that from where the sun don't shine.

Things were rock bottom when KP took over but through good decisions things quickly turned around. I'm sure some here wish they could still text the GM and have him get back to them in 5 minutes, hopefully watching the team in the playoffs will make up for it

STOMP

 

[PapaG]

Yes. Donaghy was not just a bad ref who had a grudge... he was cheating. Rasheed was an asshole on the floor towards almost every ref, but not taking into account who Rasheed went after when he did that strikes me as odd.

Ed O.

Donaghy wasn't cheating when that happened, or so goes the story. Not taking that into account strikes me as odd, and condoning Rasheed's actions at all also strikes me as odd.

 

[MAS RipCity]

FV Moments- (From 00-01 season and on)
Forcing Dallas to 7
Bassy to Ha to beat LA!

Worst-
Actually not being offended for a few months when Bonzi said the fans dont matter or soem shit like that
Q dog fighting incident

 

[Shooter]

Donaghy wasn't cheating when that happened, or so goes the story. Not taking that into account strikes me as odd, and condoning Rasheed's actions at all also strikes me as odd.

Ain't that the truth. But then I'm always surprised by the lengths that some people will go to defend Wallace.

 

[alex42083]

The "financial defense" doesn't work for me.

Theo Ratliff EXTENDED?

Darius Miles EXTENDED?

Zach Randolph EXTENDED?

Why? No Blazers management team before or since extended so many players... extensions are usually a losing proposition, especially with guys who have had consistency and/or injury problems.

Ed O.

We still had to field a team here, and no way were we going to lure any free agents since I imagine we were way over the cap, even if we let Theo, Darius and Zach walk. The only way we would stay somewhat competitive was to re-sign some of the players who Nash thought was our core and were already here.

Also, he did do several money-saving moves. He traded Bonzi for Wes Person, he let Damon's contract and SAR's contract waste away. We had cheap players like Charles Smith starting for us at SG one year.

Still doesn't excuse Nash's incompetence of drafting Martell over Paul/Deron, but he was still put in a tough situation I believe.

 

[Stevenson]

I don't know who here said "CTC baby, CTC" but if that doesn't exemplify the whole era, I don't know what does.

This thread would be laughable if it weren't true. Well, it is laughable...now.

 

[barfo]

Also, don't forget this:

I watch that a couple of times every time it gets posted here, the thrill never dies.
I was there for that game, had unusually good seats too.

barfo

 

[Freshtown]

can't forget about Qyntel getting pulled over, stoned out of his mind, car reeking of marijuana. And then handing the officer a trading card because he didn't have his license. haha

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Don't forget when all the "fans" abandoned the team. that was probably the worst. Bunch of fucking bandwagon foolz.

 

[Rodolfo]

Towel incident/JR and the coke can/Damon and the tinfoil/Rasheed's shitty attitude in general. I'm forgetting, What did Sabas do again that got Sheed to throw the towel in his face?

 

[barfo]

Towel incident/JR and the coke can/Damon and the tinfoil/Rasheed's shitty attitude in general. I'm forgetting, What did Sabas do again that got Sheed to throw the towel in his face?

Hit Sheed in the face while he was flopping.

barfo

 

[Rodolfo]

Hit Sheed in the face while he was flopping.

barfo

ahaha, I totally remember now. I remember the look on Sabas' face after it happened. Just a look of total dissappointment.

 

[Rodolfo]

Y'all forgot about the game when all the fans threw the Bill Walton dolls on the court. That was a great fucking game.

Also, don't forget this:

I was there! By far the most exciting thing I've expirienced that was Blazer related.

 

[alex42083]

Anyone else see this graphic made by someone on BlazersEdge, showing ALL of the transactions over the last decade. It's pretty nuts. You can navigate through it like a googlemap.

http://gmapuploader.com/iframe/STFAc1VfrR

 

[barfo]

Anyone else see this graphic made by someone on BlazersEdge, showing ALL of the transactions over the last decade. It's pretty nuts. You can navigate through it like a googlemap.

http://gmapuploader.com/iframe/STFAc1VfrR

That is quite an impressive flowchart.

barfo

 

[STOMP]

ahaha, I totally remember now. I remember the look on Sabas' face after it happened. Just a look of total dissappointment.

If I recall correctly... earlier in the season Sabas did the same flop/flail move raking Wallace across the face and badly poking him in the eye. It swelled up shut and caused Sheed to miss a few games.

I wonder if the roles had been reversed whether some would have been more understanding

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

We still had to field a team here, and no way were we going to lure any free agents since I imagine we were way over the cap, even if we let Theo, Darius and Zach walk. The only way we would stay somewhat competitive was to re-sign some of the players who Nash thought was our core and were already here.

absolutely wrong. There was no reason to extend Zach and Theo a year before their contracts ran out to max deals. Doing so took away their capspace and what chance the club had to add Free Agents to their core. Management also could have traded some of those expiring contracts and clearly mismatched pieces instead of paying them top dollar and making them virtually unmovable. They also could have just let guys walk and let the club bottom out. Nash chose the worst possible option and earned his permanent vacation from front office employment.

STOMP

 

[ehizzy3]

bonzi flipping off the fans

 

[alex42083]

absolutely wrong. There was no reason to extend Zach and Theo a year before their contracts ran out to max deals. Doing so took away their capspace and what chance the club had to add Free Agents to their core. Management also could have traded some of those expiring contracts and clearly mismatched pieces instead of paying them top dollar and making them virtually unmovable. They also could have just let guys walk and let the club bottom out. Nash chose the worst possible option and earned his permanent vacation from front office employment.

STOMP

I'm not saying Nash was great and all or even want to defend his tenure here, but Zach's agent threatened to take a one-year tender offer the next summer and become an UFA if we didn't give him the extension, according to a report. While few players actually do that, Nash bit the bullet and didn't want to take the chance of losing a 23-year-old PF who averaged 20-10 and who everyone thought was our core.

With Theo, he led the league in shot blocking for two years in a row at the time. Not sure why they extended him though rather than re-sign him the next summer, but with his play back then, it was a desperate move to show the fans that we were keeping a good character guy who was playing some of his best ball in his career.

No prominent free agents would've signed here anyway with our capspace. We were like where Memphis is today.
I just think Nash was bullied around a lot by agents, Patterson and Vulcan -- with the whole Telfair-adidas thing as well. I don't think he would've turned the franchise around anyway if he hadn't been bullied around proved by his draft picks, but he was put in a tough situation trying to clean up Whitsitt's mess.

 

[Cake]

Going to a game in late 05-06 when there were MAYBE 5000 people in the crowd. At least I get to tell people I was there at the lowest point in franchise history and never stopped going to games.

 

[STOMP]

I'm not saying Nash was great and all or even want to defend his tenure here, but Zach's agent threatened to take a one-year tender offer the next summer and become an UFA if we didn't give him the extension, according to a report. While few players actually do that, Nash bit the bullet and didn't want to take the chance of losing a 23-year-old PF who averaged 20-10 and who everyone thought was our core.

I recall the or else I'll walk stuff that the Zach camp made, but it was an empty threat as Portland held most of the leverage. Only a couple of teams could have possibly made a run at ZR as a FA with a max type deal, and of course no one could have outbid the Blazers. If he didn't want to come back to Portland over a slight of not being extended a year out, his best chance of getting paid would have been a S&T which would have brought back talent to PDX. And Zach was not only a 20-10 guy, he was also a horrible defender, which was why I was so appalled at the time when he was extended for a max deal. Recalling the chatter in this group of posters at the time, not everyone was set on him being retained at any cost.

With Theo, he led the league in shot blocking for two years in a row at the time. Not sure why they extended him though rather than re-sign him the next summer, but with his play back then, it was a desperate move to show the fans that we were keeping a good character guy who was playing some of his best ball in his career.

resigning an oft injured 31 year old one trick pony to a max extension was not only desperate but very stupid. While he was a great help defender/shot blocker, he was also poor as a man defender and virtually useless on the offensive end. I wanted to when they extended him.

No prominent free agents would've signed here anyway with our capspace.

says you... but we'll never really know.

I just think Nash was bullied around a lot by agents, Patterson and Vulcan -- with the whole Telfair-adidas thing as well. I don't think he would've turned the franchise around anyway if he hadn't been bullied around proved by his draft picks, but he was put in a tough situation trying to clean up Whitsitt's mess.

nonsense... KP inherited at least as bad of a mess and through good decisions quickly righted the ship. A quick look at Nash's two drafts provide obvious examples of missed opportunities. How about if he took the Detroit offer for Sheed instead of Atlanta's? Atlanta turned the Piston's 1st into Josh Smith and they'd have shaved even more $$$ off the cap.

Portland would not have been over the cap had they not made the three moves they did as you contended. Nash chose the future core of the team to be built around Zach, Darius, and Theo which much of the board applauded wildly. I thought (and posted) my doubts about those moves at the time as did others (including EdO and Mixum) and was labeled a contrarian and belittled as Trader Bob apologist even though I had my beefs with some of his decisions as well. The benefit of hindsight hasn't exactly changed this matter... I think it's pretty clear who was right and wrong.

STOMP

 

[oldguy]

I'll never forget the time Rashweed Wallace had a temper tantrum while lying on the court. The ref had call a foul on him, and he just started thrashing around like a fish on the beach, his arms and legs flying every which way. If you didn't know better, you'd think he was having an epileptic seizure. Either that, or he was a 6-year-old . . .

The guy was a total idiot. Thank goodness he's not our problem anymore.

For a while, I spent a lot of time trying to find a vid of Wallace throwing that tantrum. I had another poster tell me that all he did was slap the floor with both hands, then got up. Never could find it, though.