Your Personal 5 Most Disliked Trail Blazers of All Time

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Just to throw this out there, Jamal Crawford might easily be the nicest dude in the league along with Juwan Howard. Z-Bo is great, just naive and too impressionable. Chose to late some bad dudes in his life. Grew up with Stoudamire, so I’m a bit mixed on him.
I just can't put a guy on here because he sucked, or was mediocre , playing wise ( Crawford, Dale Davis, Otis Thorpe). Or because of injuries ( Bowie, Oden). Nobody wants to be injured. It's the attitude, dislike of our city, whininess , that are turn offs. An extra guy who should be in here : Arron Afflalo. He gave zero F's when he was here.
 
When our starting 2 guard was an allstar…. And our backup was Clyde, I agree.
Should have played Jordan at center like Bobby Knight suggested.

Jordan and Clyde could have played 2 and 3 for years, no problem.
 
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I just can't put a guy on here because he sucked, or was mediocre , playing wise ( Crawford, Dale Davis, Otis Thorpe). Or because of injuries ( Bowie, Oden). Nobody wants to be injured. It's the attitude, dislike of our city, whininess , that are turn offs. An extra guy who should be in here : Arron Afflalo. He gave zero F's when he was here.
He gave f's until he had to replace Wes instead of back him up
 
It’s tough for me to hate players. I don’t expect anything from shit players. So they live up to my expectations. Same reason I thought we’d win 39 this season and wasn’t really shocked how things turned out.

I was careful not to use the word hate in the title because I didn't want it all to be about shitting on our own guys or anything like that. Some people can just come off in a way that you really don't mind seeing them in a different jersey.
 
I’ll talk about players that I didn’t like because of their game.

Had a lot of off court interactions and for the most part, they’re mostly pretty decent people with varying levels of charisma.

didn’t like:

Travis Outlaw
Al Farouq Aminu
Jerryd Bayless
Steve Blake
Richard Andersom
 
Bonzi - was an asshole to so many people. I had some staff tell me he was a real piece of shit.

Damon - I was such a huge fan of his and a real homer up until the point where he bitched about playing time right before we started the series against San Antonio in the WCF. He didn’t like that Greg Anthony was getting so much PT. That soured me on him immediately.

LMA - part of this hate is for Neil but this dude was a giant diva and he burned us. Fuck him.

GP2 - fuck this guy.

Clyde - fucker throws us under the bus for doing him a favor and then spits in our face with a rockets jacket at the 50 greatest ceremony. Ungrateful douche.
 
I will share my personal experiences with some of the dudes who are on peoples lists.

ZBO - always super cool to me. He was just a big goofy guy.

Miles - nice guy. I think he just never was really that passionate about hoops. He was just naturally gifted.

Derek Anderson - very polished. Very careful about how he answered questions. Still I thought he was a nice guy.

Sheed - he was an asshole and he hated the media but I also saw the media try to bait him. The feeling was mutual. His teammates loved him. Many told me he was the best teammate they ever had.

Bonzi - giant tool.

Damon - he was never rude. Just didn’t really care anymore. He’d hide out in the showers until most of the media was gone. He and Quick were buddy buddy.
 
Bonzi - was an asshole to so many people. I had some staff tell me he was a real piece of shit.

Damon - I was such a huge fan of his and a real homer up until the point where he bitched about playing time right before we started the series against San Antonio in the WCF. He didn’t like that Greg Anthony was getting so much PT. That soured me on him immediately.

LMA - part of this hate is for Neil but this dude was a giant diva and he burned us. Fuck him.

GP2 - fuck this guy.

Clyde - fucker throws us under the bus for doing him a favor and then spits in our face with a rockets jacket at the 50 greatest ceremony. Ungrateful douche.
One the Clyde front. Years ago i was watching a Blazers / Rockets game on League Pass. I had the to listen to the Rockets Telecast. Now you can get your Home telecast on League Pass, but then it was different. The Rockets Telecast Team was considered one of the 3 worst in the League, along with Boston, and OKC at the time. All equally atrocious. Clyde was not very complimentary towards the Blazers. The thing that really was a turn off, is when he said "We're better than them". Them being the Blazers. I was like, you were them for the best years of your career. He was snarky through the game like Houston was all that. He became a douchebag to me that day. Like it or not, the Blazers did him a solid by trading him to Houston so he could win a ring. The Blazers got mediocre, long in the tooth, Otis Thorpe in return. Major fail by the GM of the Blazers. Oh well, is what it is. But i get where you're coming from. I will remember Clyde's days as a Blazer in fond terms. Dwight Jaynes says it's the Blazers fault for not having more to do with Clyde. Maybe so. But Bill Walton sure is involved and speaks glowingly about his days. And he didn't leave on the greatest terms either. I think Clyde just doesn't care. Kinda Sad.
 
I’ll talk about players that I didn’t like because of their game.

Had a lot of off court interactions and for the most part, they’re mostly pretty decent people with varying levels of charisma.

didn’t like:

Travis Outlaw
Al Farouq Aminu
Jerryd Bayless
Steve Blake
Richard Andersom

Interesting, I wasn't aware he played for the Blazers. What year was that?

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I also had some personal interactions. For a long time I liked Bonzi, he was very fan friendly, always chatted, signed things. He got suspended, can't remember why, it was something more stupid than reprehensible. By chance his first game back was at GSW so I talked to him before the game, said something like welcome back, I hope you don't have to leave again and he said with great emphasis that he NEVER wanted to leave again. Then he got suspended again, once more I can't recall exactly what for, but that this time it WAS for something reprehensible and not just stupid. So it wasn't just he did something shitty. Not just that he hurt the team. It was personal. Bonzi personally promised me and he broke the promise.

ZBo was a jerk at time but not terrible, I am basing this on my experience. Damon did shoot off his mouth but later on worked his way back into the lineup. Sheed, I just can't help liking. When it was politic to shut up, he spoke. Clyde, don't like him dissing the team but they never would have gotten to Finals without him, he was face of the franchise. I remember Barkley saying call him Mr. Glide!
 
One the Clyde front. Years ago i was watching a Blazers / Rockets game on League Pass. I had the to listen to the Rockets Telecast. Now you can get your Home telecast on League Pass, but then it was different. The Rockets Telecast Team was considered one of the 3 worst in the League, along with Boston, and OKC at the time. All equally atrocious. Clyde was not very complimentary towards the Blazers. The thing that really was a turn off, is when he said "We're better than them". Them being the Blazers. I was like, you were them for the best years of your career. He was snarky through the game like Houston was all that. He became a douchebag to me that day. Like it or not, the Blazers did him a solid by trading him to Houston so he could win a ring. The Blazers got mediocre, long in the tooth, Otis Thorpe in return. Major fail by the GM of the Blazers. Oh well, is what it is. But i get where you're coming from. I will remember Clyde's days as a Blazer in fond terms. Dwight Jaynes says it's the Blazers fault for not having more to do with Clyde. Maybe so. But Bill Walton sure is involved and speaks glowingly about his days. And he didn't leave on the greatest terms either. I think Clyde just doesn't care. Kinda Sad.
I've watched several Blazers/Rockets games that Clyde commented on and he did always (as the Rockets broadcaster) say "us" about the Rockets and "them" about the Blazers. A handful of times in different games I listened to he said great things about our team, about our city and how much he loved his time here but would always end with the fact that he always thought of Houston as his home.

People are entitled to their own opinions but getting to play for and win a championship with your hometown team is very special... especially when one of the guys you win that title with was your college teammate in that hometown and the two of you came so close to winning a championship in college together. I personally get why Clyde favors Houston before Portland but he has never talked shit about this city or his time here... not that I know of. If you or anyone else knows of something he's said negative about us then please let me know. I loved Clyde in my childhood and he's never done anything that I know of to keep me from remembering him fondly.

If Dame leaves this off-season for some reason I think Clyde's two finals appearances will keep him in the conversation for greatest Blazer of all time. I think Dame will stay and he will remain my favorite Blazer of all time but Clyde will be second until maybe Shaedon or someone else passes him but I would almost guarantee that Clyde will be in my top 5 until the day that I die. The dude was my childhood hero and I think the shit that people try to put on him as disrespectful is taken out of the context that Houston is his hometown and just how special that title with Hakeem in Houston was to Clyde.
 
I've watched several Blazers/Rockets games that Clyde commented on and he did always (as the Rockets broadcaster) say "us" about the Rockets and "them" about the Blazers. A handful of times in different games I listened to he said great things about our team, about our city and how much he loved his time here but would always end with the fact that he always thought of Houston as his home.

People are entitled to their own opinions but getting to play for and win a championship with your hometown team is very special... especially when one of the guys you win that title with was your college teammate in that hometown and the two of you came so close to winning a championship in college together. I personally get why Clyde favors Houston before Portland but he has never talked shit about this city or his time here... not that I know of. If you or anyone else knows of something he's said negative about us then please let me know. I loved Clyde in my childhood and he's never done anything that I know of to keep me from remembering him fondly.

If Dame leaves this off-season for some reason I think Clyde's two finals appearances will keep him in the conversation for greatest Blazer of all time. I think Dame will stay and he will remain my favorite Blazer of all time but Clyde will be second until maybe Shaedon or someone else passes him but I would almost guarantee that Clyde will be in my top 5 until the day that I die. The dude was my childhood hero and I think the shit that people try to put on him as disrespectful is taken out of the context that Houston is his hometown and just how special that title with Hakeem in Houston was to Clyde.

This interview this year was pretty bullshit.



Garbage revisionist history. We lost in the first round two years in a row and then Adelman was fired. We weren't trying to go young. Trader Bob wanted to remake the team and we were back in the WCF just a few years later. We traded him for a pile of garbage so he could go home, and now he's coming out and saying that we broke up the team too early. Total horse shit.

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Chad - "why haven't you made a return or been to Portland or been associated with the franchise at all. Is the relationship between you and the franchise good now or is there still strains there?'

Clyde - "I don't know if you could say estranged or good or bad. There's just no relationship. I don't think its anybody's fault. If you look at Mark Cuban and what he has been able to do with Dallas, anybody who played for the Mavericks if you want to work and still be involved with the Mavericks he will give guys a job. He has 15-20 guys working, ex players, for the Mavericks in some capacity. Paul Allen.... and I don't want to talk about him because he's no longer with us... and I never said anything to him, but he never had any players working for him ever. Some franchises are welcoming to the Ex players and some will lose your number."

Total.
Horse.
Shit.

Jerome Kersey?
Terry Porter?
Dan Dickau?

That's just off the top of my head.
 
This interview this year was pretty bullshit.



Garbage revisionist history. We lost in the first round two years in a row and then Adelman was fired. We weren't trying to go young. Trader Bob wanted to remake the team and we were back in the WCF just a few years later. We traded him for a pile of garbage so he could go home, and now he's coming out and saying that we broke up the team too early. Total horse shit.

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Like I said people are entitled to their own opinion. Clyde did say that it was a long time ago and then told it the way he remembered it. Still didn't here him trashing his time here or the city and never have heard him do that. The truth is the same truth he has always told about requesting that trade... he thought his championship window had closed here and he saw one in his hometown. I don't even know if Clyde would have been cool with a trade to anywhere but Houston where he grew up and where his college teammate was playing, defending a championship. I was really sad when Clyde left but was really happy for him when he won his title in Houston. I don't think that interview was bullshit, I definitely don't think it was him shitting on our team, just his recounting (accurate or not) of what he remembers going down almost 30 years ago. I don't think the Clyde hate is cool but people are entitled to it if they want.
 
Chad - "why haven't you made a return or been to Portland or been associated with the franchise at all. Is the relationship between you and the franchise good now or is there still strains there?'

Clyde - "I don't know if you could say estranged or good or bad. There's just no relationship. I don't think its anybody's fault. If you look at Mark Cuban and what he has been able to do with Dallas, anybody who played for the Mavericks if you want to work and still be involved with the Mavericks he will give guys a job. He has 15-20 guys working, ex players, for the Mavericks in some capacity. Paul Allen.... and I don't want to talk about him because he's no longer with us... and I never said anything to him, but he never had any players working for him ever. Some franchises are welcoming to the Ex players and some will lose your number."

Total.
Horse.
Shit.

Jerome Kersey?
Terry Porter?
Dan Dickau?

That's just off the top of my head.
Yeah, not the kind of totally disparaging remarks that would turn me. I'm biased though. I was a kid that got to go to a lot of games and we would walk down onto the floor at the end of the game and almost all of the players were really nice to me when I'd talk to them. I only got autographs when I was really young but kept going down there after that. Clyde was always really really nice. So if he wasn't your childhood hero, I can see where our paths would diverge.
 
Yeah, not the kind of totally disparaging remarks that would turn me. I'm biased though. I was a kid that got to go to a lot of games and we would walk down onto the floor at the end of the game and almost all of the players were really nice to me when I'd talk to them. I only got autographs when I was really young but kept going down there after that. Clyde was always really really nice. So if he wasn't your childhood hero, I can see where our paths would diverge.
He’s basically lying. He says shit like it’s nobodies fault or that he won’t talk about Paul and then proceeds to bash on Paul.
 
I've watched several Blazers/Rockets games that Clyde commented on and he did always (as the Rockets broadcaster) say "us" about the Rockets and "them" about the Blazers. A handful of times in different games I listened to he said great things about our team, about our city and how much he loved his time here but would always end with the fact that he always thought of Houston as his home.

People are entitled to their own opinions but getting to play for and win a championship with your hometown team is very special... especially when one of the guys you win that title with was your college teammate in that hometown and the two of you came so close to winning a championship in college together. I personally get why Clyde favors Houston before Portland but he has never talked shit about this city or his time here... not that I know of. If you or anyone else knows of something he's said negative about us then please let me know. I loved Clyde in my childhood and he's never done anything that I know of to keep me from remembering him fondly.

If Dame leaves this off-season for some reason I think Clyde's two finals appearances will keep him in the conversation for greatest Blazer of all time. I think Dame will stay and he will remain my favorite Blazer of all time but Clyde will be second until maybe Shaedon or someone else passes him but I would almost guarantee that Clyde will be in my top 5 until the day that I die. The dude was my childhood hero and I think the shit that people try to put on him as disrespectful is taken out of the context that Houston is his hometown and just how special that title with Hakeem in Houston was to Clyde.
Your feelings are fair. But having played his BEST years in Portland, he should never have referred to the Blazers as "them". The other teams in the NBA fine, not the Blazers. The times i listened to him in the telecast, he seemed indifferent to the Blazers. He did express praise towards Dame on multiple occasions . He is a Houston Fanboy, for sure. Like many of us are fanboys for PDX and the Blazers. Maybe it's just that he moved on once he left , and just didn't care. But it is cool that Bill Does, and many other Blazers have, and do as well. Love seeing Terry at the games, and a part of the Broadcast. So if the Blazers management is trying to right a wrong, it's certainly a good start. And also shows that Jody does care.
 
He’s basically lying. He says shit like it’s nobodies fault or that he won’t talk about Paul and then proceeds to bash on Paul.
He basically said what all of us have said, that Paul and now Jody have tended to trust non basketball people about important basketball decisions. I didn't here him say that he didn't like Paul. The stuff about the Blazers not having former players back seems like it's an exaggeration of how Clyde sees it but again it's just not something big enough to where I'm going to start disliking Clyde, a guy who I loved when he was here and still has only said nice things about this place... in public, as far as I know.

The guy could be a total dirtbag in real life, I do not know him but the shit you're pointing out isn't likely the stuff that really turned you against him. I would imagine that him wearing the Rockets jacket at the top 75 ceremony and him staying close to the Rockets and having no post Blazers career relationship with the Blazers is what makes you not like him. I think that your position is understandable but it's just not mine. I think Clyde is a Houston guy that had the majority of his success here. He identifies himself with Houston and I don't care about that because to me what matters is the guy he was when he was here and I liked that guy. He hasn't done dastardly shit towards this team or city since then to make me stop liking that guy. I do understand why his indifference turns other fans off though.
 
An extra guy who should be in here : Arron Afflalo. He gave zero F's when he was here.
I’m with @THE HCP on this thread. People are coming to their own subjective conclusion about young men that they don’t even know. For example, Arron Afflalo wrote an inspired letter in the Players’ Tribune about how excited he was to come to Portland and how we were championship bound. So, it didn’t work out, so he got injured, so be it. But this guessing of what players were thinking and feeling is weird to me.
 
I’m with @THE HCP on this thread. People are coming to their own subjective conclusion about young men that they don’t even know. For example, Arron Afflalo wrote an inspired letter in the Players’ Tribune about how excited he was to come to Portland and how we were championship bound. So, it didn’t work out, so he got injured, so be it. But this guessing of what players were thinking and feeling is weird to me.
Isn’t that the whole point of these kinds of threads?
 
I’m with @THE HCP on this thread. People are coming to their own subjective conclusion about young men that they don’t even know. For example, Arron Afflalo wrote an inspired letter in the Players’ Tribune about how excited he was to come to Portland and how we were championship bound. So, it didn’t work out, so he got injured, so be it. But this guessing of what players were thinking and feeling is weird to me.
Well then i owe Arron an apology. It just didn't seem like he played with the type of desire i saw in Denver. I was excited when the Blazers acquired him. Because, in Denver, he was a fantastic, play with intensity talent.
 
Isn’t that the whole point of these kinds of threads?
I agree. A lot of the threads in here seem to be based on how much i can push the blood pressure up. And then they come off like, "I'm just keeping it real". In your personal world maybe.
 
Chad - "why haven't you made a return or been to Portland or been associated with the franchise at all. Is the relationship between you and the franchise good now or is there still strains there?'

Clyde - "I don't know if you could say estranged or good or bad. There's just no relationship. I don't think its anybody's fault. If you look at Mark Cuban and what he has been able to do with Dallas, anybody who played for the Mavericks if you want to work and still be involved with the Mavericks he will give guys a job. He has 15-20 guys working, ex players, for the Mavericks in some capacity. Paul Allen.... and I don't want to talk about him because he's no longer with us... and I never said anything to him, but he never had any players working for him ever. Some franchises are welcoming to the Ex players and some will lose your number."

Total.
Horse.
Shit.

Jerome Kersey?
Terry Porter?
Dan Dickau?

That's just off the top of my head.

* Buck Williams and Maurice Lucas were hired as assistant coaches by the Blazers.

* Geoff Petrie was hired as the TV analyst and worked his way into the front office where he was eventually promoted to assistant VP of basketball operations. He was hired by the Kings as the president of basketball operations. he was NBA executive of the year twice and was the one who hired Rick Adelman and built those Kings' teams that were eventually robbed by the NBA & Lakers

* Steve 'Snapper' Jones went from a year playing with Portland to his announcing career

* Dave Twardzick spent a few years after retiring from the NBA working in the Blazer front office

* Larry Steele spent his entire NBA career with Portland then after retiring worked in the Blazer front office (marketing) while also acting as color analyst with Bill Schonley

I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting

so yeah...Clyde is full of shit
 
Rudy Fernandez
Cliff Robinson
Sebastian Telfair
LaMarcus Aldridge
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
 
Felton is the obvious MDP of this lineup (despised). Kemp is on the team too.

a special category nomination goes to Rasheed. I really liked him at first but his constant quest for 'T's' became the most irritating thing about the Blazers for nearly 3 seasons. I was very glad when he was traded because he was just getting worse and worse in Portland. His buddy Damon was a stale act as well
Things were actually looking up right before Sheed was traded. The Sheed/ZBo/Miles frontcourt was working. We had won like 8 of 10. We traded him and then had 5 straight years of no playoffs.
 

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