Zach Collins is ready

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Girls, girls, you're both pretty.

Not even close. One may be passable but there's no way they're both pretty.

 

[BonesJones]

I said Collins should be playing. Someone said “there isn’t anyone he should be playing over/instead of”, and you liked that post. So what changed in 15 hours?

Not that he shouldnt play, it's that it's not a knock in him that he wasnt issuing based on the frontcourt players we have.

I blame Stotts.

 

[BonesJones]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
He deserves better? Do you remember he was a bench warmer in Denver?

WE DESERVE BETTER THAN NURKIC, I want a Karl-Anthony Towns, a Embiid, talents like that, not a mediocre center like Nurkic who's not even a top 10 center in this league.

You guys have no clue of the value of players, someday we'll have a real superstar and then you will realize what it is to have a true superstar

You're the one without a clue. You have negative basketball IQ. It's funny when people mistake their own ignorance for others'.

 

[handiman]

Whether or not Collins is ready, it's clear that many of the fans are. And that counts for something with the All-Star vote, so it sure as hell should count for something here.

 

[BonesJones]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
He deserves better? Do you remember he was a bench warmer in Denver?

WE DESERVE BETTER THAN NURKIC, I want a Karl-Anthony Towns, a Embiid, talents like that, not a mediocre center like Nurkic who's not even a top 10 center in this league.

You guys have no clue of the value of players, someday we'll have a real superstar and then you will realize what it is to have a true superstar

We deserve better than you, but sometimes you have to take what you get.

 

[BonesJones]

Yeah like “Which Scrub Goes Off On Us” wasn’t a thing last year or two years ago. There was that D-League guy who got a two year contract because of his game against us... is that better or worse when they’re both losses?

Lmao. What star did Dallas have that we slowed down that allowed Ferrell to go off?

He went off because we constantly let him get wide open jumpers because of shotty pick n roll coverage. That's different than giving up open shots to a scrub by loading up onto a star...

 

[Blazinaway]

I think we forget that Nurk is only 23, and a young 23 at that since he hasn’t even been playing the sport for ten years. If someone offers him the max, so be it, you still match. I don’t see that happening though. There are only so many teams that have cap space and a need at center.

And FWIW, Nurk is more important to our team than McCollum so you move CJ before Nurk if it absolutely came down to it.

I have NO problem moving CJ either and well before I'd move Nurk, I like Nurk and expect him to be a Blazer for many years

 

[rotary111]

Collins is going to be fun to watch this season. He has knocked Caleb down the list and with any luck Ed will be next. Somebody with Ed's defense and rebounding and a MUCH better offensive game would be nice to add to this group. I think that's where he's headed...not sure he can pull that off this season though.

The SF position is going to be a huge focus for this team.

 

[BrunoSOC]

I think he's the key in the roster. He can help us, give him time with dame and he can do it all. I think he can be really good. Only 20. He have a big potential

 

[Mr. Robot]

imagine stotts playing Collins at 4 alongside Nurk
just give it a couple of minutes a game to see how it goes

 

[tester551]

imagine stotts playing Collins at 4 alongside Nurk
just give it a couple of minutes a game to see how it goes

I've been wanting to see that since preseason. That's the future front court IMO

 

[Boob-No-More]

You guys have no clue of the value of players, someday we'll have a real superstar and then you will realize what it is to have a true superstar

If only we had a player like Thomas Robinson. Then we'd realize what it is to have a true superstar.

BNM

 

[perkinsfor3]

Am I crazy for believing Nurkic plays better with Vonleh on the court?

 

[Labinot41]

I also wanna see that Nurkic & Collins Frontcourt.

 

[Mr. Robot]

Am I crazy for believing Nurkic plays better with Vonleh on the court?

that could be the "false truth", but youre not the only one whos thinking that

 

[Scalma]

Am I crazy for believing Nurkic plays better with Vonleh on the court?

He does play better with Vonleh and I don’t know why Stotts is so adamant about Aminu at the four. Collins also profiles well next to Nurk because he does a lot of the same things Vonleh does. Collins is a combination of the best things Vonleh and Aminu bring; he can help Nurk defensively, on the boards, and gives him a dump off option. He can also stretch the floor.

 

[rotary111]

He does play better with Vonleh and I don’t know why Stotts is so adamant about Aminu at the four. Collins also profiles well next to Nurk because he does a lot of the same things Vonleh does. Collins is a combination of the best things Vonleh and Aminu bring; he can help Nurk defensively, on the boards, and gives him a dump off option. He can also stretch the floor.

^^This..... Exactly.

 

[Boob-No-More]

He does play better with Vonleh and I don’t know why Stotts is so adamant about Aminu at the four. Collins also profiles well next to Nurk because he does a lot of the same things Vonleh does. Collins is a combination of the best things Vonleh and Aminu bring; he can help Nurk defensively, on the boards, and gives him a dump off option. He can also stretch the floor.

Agreed 100%. And its not like I'm anti-Aminu. It's like there is this weird disconnect between Stotts and Olshey.

Last year, PF was our weakest position. So, Neil went out and spent THREE first round draft picks to shore up the PF position.

This year, SF has been our weakest position. No Show Mo being the main reason. Yet, Terry continues to use his roster like it was last year. He continues to play Chief at the 4, when the obvious solution, to me, is to move Chief back to the 3, his most natural position.

I'd love to see what a front court of Nurk, Collins and Aminu could do. They be totally awesome defensively and on the boards, and better offensively than Nurk, Vonleh and Harkless.

Fuck small ball. Go big and force the other team to adjust for once. It's not like Collins and Aminu are going to get abused by smaller players. They both have the length and lateral quickness to guard smaller players. And, Nurk and Collins give us plenty of rim protection, too.

BTW, maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen anyone compare Collins to Andrei Kirilenko. With his shot blocking and defense, and potential to stretch the floor, Collins reminds me of a young AK47. Like Kirilenko, he is also long and lean, but with an even bigger frame.

BNM

 

[tester551]

Agreed 100%. And its not like I'm anti-Aminu. It's like there is this weird disconnect between Stotts and Olshey.

Last year, PF was our weakest position. So, Neil went out and spent THREE first round draft picks to shore up the PF position.

This year, SF has been our weakest position. No Show Mo being the main reason. Yet, Terry continues to use his roster like it was last year. He continues to play Chief at the 4, when the obvious solution, to me, is to move Chief back to the 3, his most natural position.

I'd love to see what a front court of Nurk, Collins and Aminu could do. They be totally awesome defensively and on the boards, and better offensively than Nurk, Vonleh and Harkless.

Fuck small ball. Go big and force the other team to adjust for once. It's not like Collins and Aminu are going to get abused by smaller players. They both have the length and lateral quickness to guard smaller players. And, Nurk and Collins give us plenty of rim protection, too.

BTW, maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen anyone compare Collins to Andrei Kirilenko. With his shot blocking and defense, and potential to stretch the floor, Collins reminds me of a young AK47. Like Kirilenko, he is also long and lean, but with an even bigger frame.

BNM

Good comp on the AK-47.

 

[dviss1]

Collins has also been in the weight room. He looks like he's put on 5-10 lbs of lean muscle.

 

[dviss1]

Agreed 100%. And its not like I'm anti-Aminu. It's like there is this weird disconnect between Stotts and Olshey.

Last year, PF was our weakest position. So, Neil went out and spent THREE first round draft picks to shore up the PF position.

This year, SF has been our weakest position. No Show Mo being the main reason. Yet, Terry continues to use his roster like it was last year. He continues to play Chief at the 4, when the obvious solution, to me, is to move Chief back to the 3, his most natural position.

I'd love to see what a front court of Nurk, Collins and Aminu could do. They be totally awesome defensively and on the boards, and better offensively than Nurk, Vonleh and Harkless.

Fuck small ball. Go big and force the other team to adjust for once. It's not like Collins and Aminu are going to get abused by smaller players. They both have the length and lateral quickness to guard smaller players. And, Nurk and Collins give us plenty of rim protection, too.

BTW, maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen anyone compare Collins to Andrei Kirilenko. With his shot blocking and defense, and potential to stretch the floor, Collins reminds me of a young AK47. Like Kirilenko, he is also long and lean, but with an even bigger frame.

BNM

Eh... I don't know... AK could handle the ball and go to the rack. He did things on offense I'm not sure Zach is capable of.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

BTW, maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen anyone compare Collins to Andrei Kirilenko. With his shot blocking and defense, and potential to stretch the floor, Collins reminds me of a young AK47. Like Kirilenko, he is also long and lean, but with an even bigger frame.

BNM

The recently-banned-one made that comparison during the first pre-season game.

Zach Collins reminds me of a 7-1 Andrei Kirilenko

 

[handiman]

Eh... I don't know... AK could handle the ball and go to the rack. He did things on offense I'm not sure Zach is capable of.

Yeah, AK was SF/PF while Zach is PF/C. They somewhat resemble each other, but their games are dissimilar enough that they would have made a great front line pairing in their primes.

 

[Scalma]

The guy I compare Collins to is Myles Turner.

 

[ripcityboy]

I am not going to make an honest assessment until he becomes a regular part of the rotation. That won't probably happen until year two. Unless he shows an amazing growth by midseason.

 

[jlprk]

Eh... I don't know... AK could handle the ball and go to the rack. He did things on offense I'm not sure Zach is capable of.

Dviss, you don't see the similarity between Collins and Kirilenko, Havlicek, Barry, Bird, DeBusschere, Nowitzki, McHale, and Pettit?

 

[riverman]

Dviss, you don't see the similarity between Collins and Kirilenko, Havlicek, Barry, Bird, DeBusschere, Nowitzki, McHale, and Pettit?

That's a lot of bad haircuts

 

[Optimistic Bob]

Go Collins !!

 

[Labinot41]

I like Collins, but imagine olshey would have picked donovan Mitchell with pick 10 and Kuzma with 26. Damn

 

[Strenuus]

I like Collins, but imagine olshey would have picked donovan Mitchell with pick 10 and Kuzma with 26. Damn

Kuzma has started to get figured out, so in comes the real test. His rebounds are still there, and his FG% is still good, but they have video on him... we'll see what happens.

Mitchell I've not really been impressed with... I feel he'll be a streaky shooter his whole career.