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EL PRESIDENTE said:
The only inconsistencies are with the state. You may not believe his story but there is nothing that refutes it.


hoop fam
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I've said numerous times the evidence is on the side of the defense.

Doesn't mean I don't think George Zimmerman isn't a lying cocksucker that hasn't changed aspects of his story (he has).
 
i have no reason to believe he is lying, other than peruvians being notorious liars
 
3RA1N1AC said:
i have no reason to believe he is lying, other than peruvians being notorious liars
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Well, that and he's guilty of murder but doesn't want to be found guilty.
 
Denny Crane said:
By what standard?

He is guilty. There's tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands who are protesting because they know him guilty.
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What standard? Based on the evidence and facts of the case which was tried through the criminal courts system which has proven him to be not guilty.

People protesting in the streets doesn't make someone guilty of a crime. They know less about this case than you do (and you're way off base on it to begin with).
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
The only inconsistencies are with the state. You may not believe his story but there is nothing that refutes it.


hoop fam
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So.. If I followed you to a secluded place and shot and killed you, I could just get away with it by saying you jumped me? Cause you're dead! What do you know? I'm alive, people listen to me, I win?
 
VanillaGorilla said:
So.. If I followed you to a secluded place and shot and killed you, I could just get away with it by saying you jumped me? Cause you're dead! What do you know? I'm alive, people listen to me, I win?
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well, I'd have to be attacking you and ballistics would have to back up your story. I'd probably be able to kill you before you got your gun out though.
 
Denny Crane said:
By what standard?

He is guilty. There's tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands who are protesting because they know him guilty.
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Man, you're going to have to turn in your Denny Crane persona if you keep this up.
 
hoojacks said:
I have to agree. There's a reason why conservatives are all partying tonight. They believe in the shoot first, ask questions later mindset. I don't think that's even debatable. People that think differently aren't real Americans.
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We disagree. I think people of all colors and beliefs are "real" Americans. So much for celebrated your idea of diversity. I guess you accept everyone...as long as they think just like you.
 
I don't know think many people with their heads screwed on straight are celebrating this decision. A kid is dead for no good reason. I do think that the justice system worked the way it is supposed to. Unless the prosecutors can prove to a jury that a defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, that person goes free. It doesn't mean that Zimmerman is innocent. He may or may not have been justified in the use of deadly force, but only two people were there and one of them is dead. It doesn't mean that blacks don't have legitimate complaints about being profiled or prosecuted at higher rates than whites. But a court case is never supposed to be about solving flaws in our legal system. It's about whether the evidence is there in a specific case to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant committed the crime that he or she is charged with. In this specific case, the jurors found that the evidence was not there to support a guilty decision. Whether it's Zimmerman or OJ, the presumption of innocence is paramount.
 
Denny Crane said:
He called the police, fine. At that point, he did the most he should have done. To do more, which he did, was to be a vigilante. He took the law into his own hands.

Gee, there's only been almost a hundred fifty years of history of free black people being beaten, tortured, intimidated, their businesses burned to the ground, treatment as 2nd class citizens, Jim Crow laws deliberately designed to oppress these people, and institutionalized racism (like banks redlining black neighborhoods). They absolutely need special consideration.
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Ridiculous. So, by your argument, humans can't evolve? Because I'm white I must have Jim Crow sentiments? Do I look at George Zimmerman and say to myself, "Wetback"?

As for redlining, banks ignore poorer areas because they're bad investments. If they could make money off of them, do you think they care what color is the person handling the money?

It's sad you think so little of your fellow Americans, Denny. We're much better people than you believe.
 
Denny Crane said:
Absofuckinlutley black people need special treatment.

Answer my question, I dare you:

Why are poll taxes bad?
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Funny, I think people need to be treated precisely equally. I guess we'll agree to disagree.
 
maxiep said:
Ridiculous. So, by your argument, humans can't evolve? Because I'm white I must have Jim Crow sentiments? Do I look at George Zimmerman and say to myself, "Wetback"?

As for redlining, banks ignore poorer areas because they're bad investments. If they could make money off of them, do you think they care what color is the person handling the money?

It's sad you think so little of your fellow Americans, Denny. We're much better people than you believe.
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Banks do make money off of illegal immigrants and poorer areas. When I was in the auto business banks would take all the 24-36% interest paper I could write.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
How many white folk have they killed so far this year?
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Why does color matter? It's funny that it only seems to matter to the Left, the folks who are the first to cry "racism!" Something tells me, you cry out what you know is in your heart. To me, all citizens are equal under the law. Of course, I'm just a racist, bigoted Tea Partier. I'm not one of those super-evolved folks on the Left.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Banks do make money off of illegal immigrants and poorer areas. When I was in the auto business banks would take all the 24-36% interest paper I could write.
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Of course they do. When they're required to charge the same as they do in lower risk areas, they tend not to loan as much money in those cases. Denny is alleging that racism is at its heart. I'm making the argument it's economic, not race that is the basis of "redlining".
 
BigGameDamian said:
This case will never end. With that said how much longer do you give Zimmerman to live?
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Hopefully a long time. However, his life is ruined because he was caught up in an election and race hustlers trying to make their next buck.
 
maxiep said:
Of course they do. When they're required to charge the same as they do in lower risk areas, they tend not to loan as much money in those cases. Denny is alleging that racism is at its heart. I'm making the argument it's economic, not race that is the basis of "redlining".
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Doesn't matter what area you live in, if you have the credit score you can get a low interest rate. Now you might not get as many unsolicited credit card or refi offers but good credit people tend to ignore those anyways.
 
Denny Crane said:
By what standard?

He is guilty. There's tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands who are protesting because they know him guilty.
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Keep digging.

You are fast on your way to China.

Your posts in this thread make up a body of work stunning in an inability to focus on the essential elements, and inability to separate truth from fiction and a worldview that is just bizarre.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
So.. If I followed you to a secluded place and shot and killed you, I could just get away with it by saying you jumped me? Cause you're dead! What do you know? I'm alive, people listen to me, I win?
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Did you call the Police first?

Did you immediately claim you were jumped and beaten, and this was corroborated by a witness (who was called by the prosecution?)

Think!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Doesn't matter what area you live in, if you have the credit score you can get a low interest rate. Now you might not get as many unsolicited credit card or refi offers but good credit people tend to ignore those anyways.
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I was discussing home loans. There it matters a great deal where you live.
 
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