Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin Case!

[PapaG]

On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman placed a call to Sanford police after spotting a young black man he recognized peering into the windows of a neighbor's empty home, according to several friends and neighbors.

"I don't know what he's doing. I don't want to approach him, personally," Zimmerman said in the call, which was recorded. The dispatcher advised him that a patrol car was on the way. By the time police arrived, according to the dispatch report, the suspect had fled.

On February 6, the home of another Twin Lakes resident, Tatiana Demeacis, was burglarized. Two roofers working directly across the street said they saw two African-American men lingering in the yard at the time of the break-in. A new laptop and some gold jewelry were stolen. One of the roofers called police the next day after spotting one of the suspects among a group of male teenagers, three black and one white, on bicycles.

Police found Demeacis's laptop in the backpack of 18-year-old Emmanuel Burgess, police reports show, and charged him with dealing in stolen property. Burgess was the same man Zimmerman had spotted on February 2.

Burgess had committed a series of burglaries on the other side of town in 2008 and 2009, pleaded guilty to several, and spent all of 2010 incarcerated in a juvenile facility, his attorney said. He is now in jail on parole violations.

Explains, in part, why Zimmerman wanted to keep an eye on Trayvon Martin. The entire article is just so different from the initial reporting, it's well worth reading.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Explains, in part, why Zimmerman wanted to keep an eye on Trayvon Martin. The entire article is just so different from the initial reporting, it's well worth reading.

Why did he want to keep an eye on Martin?

Because a young black guy stole a laptop and has a criminal record?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Why did he want to keep an eye on Martin?

Because a young black guy stole a laptop and has a criminal record?

I'm hoping you're being sarcastic. We once had a rash of incidents in my neighborhood. The neighborhood started a neighborhood watch, and anyone that we hadn't seen before.... everyone watched. An unfamiliar face, with most of his head covered with a hood, given a recent string of events - and people are surprised Zimmerman was paying attention to him? WTF?

 

[PapaG]

Why did he want to keep an eye on Martin?

Because a young black guy stole a laptop and has a criminal record?

Did you read the article? His community ASKED him to keep out an eye on people that seemed like strangers in complex.

Doesn't change that he shot him, or the circumstances around it, but clearly, if you actually read the entire article, he wasn't just hunting down a black kid.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

YES HE WAS. HE SHOULD HAVE ASSUMED 8 year old Trayvon was a harvard law school prodigy! He could have been! :MARIS61:

SKITTLES!

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Did you read the article? His community ASKED him to keep out an eye on people that seemed like strangers in complex.

Doesn't change that he shot him, or the circumstances around it, but clearly, if you actually read the entire article, he wasn't just hunting down a black kid.

I wouldn't rule that out, actually. Have you ever tried it? So much fun.

(And for your humorless fukks, yes, that was sarcasm.)

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

YES HE WAS. HE SHOULD HAVE ASSUMED 8 year old Trayvon was a harvard law school prodigy! He could have been! :MARIS61:

SKITTLES!

My mom said that black people don't go to college - unless it's to play sports.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm guessing there were no skittles and iced tea. I figure we would have seen some 7-11 surveillance footage or information from a clerk who worked at the 7-11.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I'm hoping you're being sarcastic. We once had a rash of incidents in my neighborhood. The neighborhood started a neighborhood watch, and anyone that we hadn't seen before.... everyone watched. An unfamiliar face, with most of his head covered with a hood, given a recent string of events - and people are surprised Zimmerman was paying attention to him? WTF?

So if this was a white kid wearing a polo, does he deserve attention.

Got no problem with the idea of neighborhood watch, but when it crosses the line into law enforcement, I think there are problems. There is a reason police are trained about stereotyping and why it is such a big issue. There are goods and bads to stereotyping, but one should be trained in the area at the very least.

My fear is Zimmerman approached this kid with the assumption he was already up to no good because he is a black kid in a hoodie. If you approach someone with that attitude and the kid isn't doing what he is being presumed he is doing, bad things are going to happen from both individuals.

I know I wounldn't appreciate it if Zimmerman approached me with any kind of attitude and started asking me questions. If I thought he was there to shake me down, I would have given him hell . . . and might of ended up with a bullet in my head. Scary society all the way around.

 

[PapaG]

I wouldn't rule that out, actually. Have you ever tried it? So much fun.

(And for your humorless fukks, yes, that was sarcasm.)

Zimmerman and his racist buddies made a movie about it.

 

[PapaG]

So if this was a white kid wearing a polo, does he deserve attention.

Got no problem with the idea of neighborhood watch, but when it crosses the line into law enforcement, I think there are problems. There is a reason police are trained about stereotyping and why it is such a big issue. There are goods and bads to stereotyping, but one should be trained in the area at the very least.

My fear is Zimmerman approached this kid with the assumption he was already up to no good because he is a black kid in a hoodie. If you approach someone with that attitude and the kid isn't doing what he is being presumed he is doing, bad things are going to happen from both individuals.

I know I wounldn't appreciate it if Zimmerman approached me with any kind of attitude and started asking me questions. If I thought he was there to shake me down, I would have given him hell . . . and might of ended up with a bullet in my head. Scary society all the way around.

Really though, did you read the article?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

So if this was a white kid wearing a polo, does he deserve attention.

Got no problem with the idea of neighborhood watch, but when it crosses the line into law enforcement, I think there are problems. There is a reason police are trained about stereotyping and why it is such a big issue. There are goods and bads to stereotyping, but one should be trained in the area at the very least.

My fear is Zimmerman approached this kid with the assumption he was already up to no good because he is a black kid in a hoodie. If you approach someone with that attitude and the kid isn't doing what he is being presumed he is doing, bad things are going to happen from both individuals.

I know I wounldn't appreciate it if Zimmerman approached me with any kind of attitude and started asking me questions. If I thought he was there to shake me down, I would have given him hell . . . and might of ended up with a bullet in my head. Scary society all the way around.

Dude, we watched EVERYONE that came through our neighborhood that we didn't recognize. I don't know why you're surprised he was being watched. Everything beyond that, we don't know anything about, but I wouldn't have expected things to end the way they did. But from my experience with neighborhood watch, it's not shocking that a new person strolling through the neighborhood with a hood on garnered some attention. We used to even have a neighborhood watch on that had a person from shoulders up, with a hoodie on. Not saying that people in hoodies are criminal, as I wear them daily, but come on, given the recent string of events, you see an unfamiliar face in your neighborhood, hoodie up, it'd get my attention. One of the things a hoodie is used for is concealment.

For you to get worked up by someone coming up and asking you questions.... You're as tightly wound as the trigger man. Answer the question, and move on.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yeah, it was a gated community. people know who lives there and who doesn't, especially if you're on neighborhood watch. duh.

 

[PapaG]

Yeah, it was a gated community. people know who lives there and who doesn't, especially if you're on neighborhood watch. duh.

Neighborhood watch programs are inherently racist and violent. It's best to just let your homes be broken into and hve your property stolen. If you're lucky, you may even get a few rapes or brutal beatings in your community, which might bring a few extra patrols from the cops. The best approach is to just ignore the problem, isolate yourselves from your neighbors, and hope your house isn't next.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Neighborhood watch programs are inherently racist and violent. It's best to just let your homes be broken into and hve your property stolen. If you're lucky, you may even get a few rapes or brutal beatings in your community, which might bring a few extra patrols from the cops. The best approach is to just ignore the problem, isolate yourselves from your neighbors, and hope your house isn't next.

Treyvon was 8 months old, I doubt he could break into a home.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Dude, we watched EVERYONE that came through our neighborhood that we didn't recognize. I don't know why you're surprised he was being watched. Everything beyond that, we don't know anything about, but I wouldn't have expected things to end the way they did. But from my experience with neighborhood watch, it's not shocking that a new person strolling through the neighborhood with a hood on garnered some attention. We used to even have a neighborhood watch on that had a person from shoulders up, with a hoodie on. Not saying that people in hoodies are criminal, as I wear them daily, but come on, given the recent string of events, you see an unfamiliar face in your neighborhood, hoodie up, it'd get my attention. One of the things a hoodie is used for is concealment.

For you to get worked up by someone coming up and asking you questions.... You're as tightly wound as the trigger man. Answer the question, and move on.

BS . . . I don't have to answer questions. I know you and the neighborhood watch want me to play your game, but last I saw a neighborhood watch person has no right to stop me and make me answer questions. If you want to say that is tightly wound, I don't give a shit. Leave me alone to myself and i don't bother anyone and no one bothers me. Like it or not, that is what each person has the constitutional right to.

Then add to the mix that in whatever wisdon was being used that the home owners association asked a person with anger issues who has been arrested for resisting arrest to head this watch . . . this is why this should be a police function. Law enforcement would not put someone who has been chsrged with crimes and had to go through programs including anger control to deal with his issues.

I mean this hoem owners association is going to put a guy on the street who has been arrested for violent crime, carries a gun and allows him to break their own rules?

The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.

This homeowners association are a bunch of paniced knucleheads who clearly did not react properly to burglaries in the area. They are part resonsible for giving someone like that any kind or authority and permission to violate guidelines. How above the law was this guy feeling?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Neighborhood watch programs are inherently racist and violent. It's best to just let your homes be broken into and hve your property stolen. If you're lucky, you may even get a few rapes or brutal beatings in your community, which might bring a few extra patrols from the cops. The best approach is to just ignore the problem, isolate yourselves from your neighbors, and hope your house isn't next.

It's the only way to prove you're not a racist!

 

[PapaG]

Treyvon was 8 months old, I doubt he could break into a home.

New photos surface of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman from the day of the shooting.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

George Zimmerman:

 

[PapaG]

BS . . . I don't have to answer questions. I know you and the neighborhood watch want me to play your game, but last I saw a neighborhood watch person has no right to stop me and make me answer questions. If you want to say that is tightly wound, I don't give a shit. Leave me alone to myself and i don't bother anyone and no one bothers me. Like it or not, that is what each person has the constitutional right to.

Then add to the mix that in whatever wisdon was being used that the home owners association asked a person with anger issues who has been arrested for resisting arrest to head this watch . . . this is why this should be a police function. Law enforcement would not put someone who has been chsrged with crimes and had to go through programs including anger control to head something like this.

I mean this hoem owners association is going to put a guy on the street who has been arrested for violent crime, carries a gun and allows him to break their own rules?

The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.

This homeowners association are a bunch of paniced knucleheads who clearly did not react properly to burglaries in the area. They are part resonsible for giving someone like that any kind or authority and permission to violate guidelines. How above the law was this guy feeling?

Zimmerman didn't stop Trayvon Martin or ask him questions.

Did you read the article?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Yeah, it was a gated community. people know who lives there and who doesn't, especially if you're on neighborhood watch. duh.

Ding ding ding - El-P FTW!

It's like duh, people. How fucking clueless can you people.

Gated neighborhood. Recent string of break-ins. Neighborhood watch. Unfamiliar face in a hoodie. Why are people shocked this kid caught attention?

 

[PapaG]

Ding ding ding - El-P FTW!

It's like duh, people. How fucking clueless can you people.

Gated neighborhood. Recent string of break-ins. Neighborhood watch. Unfamiliar face in a hoodie. Why are people shocked this kid caught attention?

What's more frustrating is the ignorance shown, even in this thread.

The new Reuters article actually has new information, yet clearly one person commenting on it won't even take the time to read it.

 

[Natebishop3]

So if this was a white kid wearing a polo, does he deserve attention.

Got no problem with the idea of neighborhood watch, but when it crosses the line into law enforcement, I think there are problems. There is a reason police are trained about stereotyping and why it is such a big issue. There are goods and bads to stereotyping, but one should be trained in the area at the very least.

My fear is Zimmerman approached this kid with the assumption he was already up to no good because he is a black kid in a hoodie. If you approach someone with that attitude and the kid isn't doing what he is being presumed he is doing, bad things are going to happen from both individuals.

I know I wounldn't appreciate it if Zimmerman approached me with any kind of attitude and started asking me questions. If I thought he was there to shake me down, I would have given him hell . . . and might of ended up with a bullet in my head. Scary society all the way around.

Fuck ya he does... teenagers in general need to be watched like a hawk.

Example: My fiancee's parents own a bowling alley. We were visiting her parents at the lanes and my fiancee had accidentally left her wallet in the car. I noticed when we parked that there was a young WHITE teenage couple loitering outside behind the lanes and only 15 or 20 feet from where we parked. I had a bad feeling about them but:

A) I didn't realize her wallet was still in the car

and

B) I didn't realize the car had been left unlocked

When we went back outside the kids were gone and so was her wallet. Could it have been someone else? Sure, but we never saw anyone else back there and it smacked of a small time thief. Nobody ever tried to use her cards and I figure they only took the cash and probably ditched the wallet in the garbage.

Moral of the story, when someone looks suspicious (regardless of race) it's a good idea to check them out or keep an eye on them. I'm not condoning what Zimmerman did (not at all) because I think he should have left it well enough alone, but I don't blame him for calling the cops or being suspicious of the kid. That was well within his charge.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

BS . . . I don't have to answer questions. I know you and the neighborhood watch want me to play your game, but last I saw a neighborhood watch person has no right to stop me and make me answer questions. If you want to say that is tightly wound, I don't give a shit. Leave me alone to myself and i don't bother anyone and no one bothers me. Like it or not, that is what each person has the constitutional right to.

Then add to the mix that in whatever wisdon was being used that the home owners association asked a person with anger issues who has been arrested for resisting arrest to head this watch . . . this is why this should be a police function. Law enforcement would not put someone who has been chsrged with crimes and had to go through programs including anger control to deal with his issues.

I mean this hoem owners association is going to put a guy on the street who has been arrested for violent crime, carries a gun and allows him to break their own rules?

The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.

This homeowners association are a bunch of paniced knucleheads who clearly did not react properly to burglaries in the area. They are part resonsible for giving someone like that any kind or authority and permission to violate guidelines. How above the law was this guy feeling?

It's cool. You clearly didn't read the article. But why the fuck would you be in a gated neighborhood if you don't live there? And if you're in a gated neighborhood, and you don't live there, why the fuck would be be retarded and not answer questions.

Maybe it's just me and I live a life based heavily in favor of common sense. This was one of the basic, most common sense things I learned early in life. We had private, gated neighborhoods where I grew up. You don't go there without reason, and if you are there, make yourself appear as friendly and open as possible. Otherwise, you draw attention to yourself.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What's more frustrating is the ignorance shown, even in this thread.

The new Reuters article actually has new information, yet clearly one person commenting on it won't even take the time to read it.

Reuters is a propaganda tool of the SS. Their mission statement, as noted on their website, is the extermination of all black people.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Fuck ya he does... teenagers in general need to be watched like a hawk.

Example: My fiancee's parents own a bowling alley. We were visiting her parents at the lanes and my fiancee had accidentally left her wallet in the car. I noticed when we parked that there was a young WHITE teenage couple loitering outside behind the lanes and only 15 or 20 feet from where we parked. I had a bad feeling about them but:

A) I didn't realize her wallet was still in the car

and

B) I didn't realize the car had been left unlocked

When we went back outside the kids were gone and so was her wallet. Could it have been someone else? Sure, but we never saw anyone else back there and it smacked of a small time thief. Nobody ever tried to use her cards and I figure they only took the cash and probably ditched the wallet in the garbage.

Moral of the story, when someone looks suspicious (regardless of race) it's a good idea to check them out or keep an eye on them. I'm not condoning what Zimmerman did (not at all) because I think he should have left it well enough alone, but I don't blame him for calling the cops or being suspicious of the kid. That was well within his charge.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

kill all the white people, then we'll be free

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

kill all the white people, then we'll be free

My buddy's ringtone when I call..... NoFX's Kill All the White Man!

 

[The_Lillard_King]

It's cool. You clearly didn't read the article. But why the fuck would you be in a gated neighborhood if you don't live there? And if you're in a gated neighborhood, and you don't live there, why the fuck would be be retarded and not answer questions.

Maybe it's just me and I live a life based heavily in favor of common sense. This was one of the basic, most common sense things I learned early in life. We had private, gated neighborhoods where I grew up. You don't go there without reason, and if you are there, make yourself appear as friendly and open as possible. Otherwise, you draw attention to yourself.

Yes I read the article . . . I don't bother to answer because I'm not sure the point of the question. Did you read the article? Did you read how Zimmerman disobeyed what the police told him to do in this situation. I can play this game and say "I don't know about you but when the poice tell me to do something, I am as friendly as possible and open to them." This whole case is a mystery, but to say Zimmerman did nothig wrong when he shot an unarmed kid and is being prosecuted and all the evidence has not come out yet . . . that's wrong. If jury aquits Zimmerman, then perosnally, I will think Martin brought it on himself.

And maybe it is just you, because is there a law about not being polite and answering questions. If you grew up constantly being judged and accused of something. If you grew up being looked at as different and lower class . . . after years of that would you be so happy go lucky as to answer people's questions . . . . questions from a person who is shaking you down. Normally I would say fuck that . . . but currently I would probably factor in they might have a gun and politely walk away. It is the society we live in now I guess.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm releasing my new hip hop single soon. Its called "crackaz be wildin'"