Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin Case!

[PapaG]

In any event, fair to say Mr. Zimmerman likes to racially stereotype

Most Democrats like to racially stereotype. Zimmerman was no different.

 

[PapaG]

Or run a simple backgound check to find out he has been arrested for resisting arrest.

Takes one phone call and $50.00 here. But maybe that is asking too much of a home owners association.

My home owner's association spends more time writing letters to home owners that their grass needs to be cut or they will be fined than this home owner's association did in making the decision to make this guy person in charge of neighborhood watch.

Trayvon Martin was on his 3rd suspension from HS and was found with jewelry and screwdrivers in his backpack for the 3rd time. That wasn't from 2005, that was from 2012. Or are men not allowed to change from 2005 to 2012? Seems like a harsh standard.


What was the point of your 2005 MySpace thing? Or, does the mayor of Sanford commending George Zimmerman, by name, for working with underprivileged youths of all races in 2011 not count?

Or, are you still yelling at the guy asking you why you're parked in front of his house? That seems the most likely answer.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Trayvon Martin was on his 3rd suspension from HS and was found with jewelry and screwdrivers in his backpack for the 3rd time. That wasn't from 2005, that was from 2012. Or are men not allowed to change from 2005 to 2012? Seems like a harsh standard.


What was the point of your 2005 MySpace thing? Or, does the mayor of Sanford commending George Zimmerman, by name, for working with underprivileged youths of all races in 2011 not count?

Or, are you still yelling at the guy asking you why you're parked in front of his house? That seems the most likely answer.

Trayvon wasn't even born in 2005

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[The_Lillard_King]

Trayvon Martin was on his 3rd suspension from HS and was found with jewelry and screwdrivers in his backpack for the 3rd time. That wasn't from 2005, that was from 2012. Or are men not allowed to change from 2005 to 2012? Seems like a harsh standard.

I wouldn't of thought Martin would have been a good person to lead a neighborhood watch either.

A harsh standard? He has been arrested for resisting arrest and made to take anger management and you think that shouldn't count against him when deciding if he is an appropriate person to be in charge of neighborhood watch? Any surprise he didn't listen to 911 dispatch and handled on his own?

Man I thought it was liberals who had loose standards. You really would have let that go and made the same decision the home owner's association would have made? Wow

 

[PapaG]

I wouldn't of thought Martin would have been a good person to lead a neighborhood watch either.

A harsh standard? He has been arrested for resisting arrest and made to take anger management and you think that shouldn't count against him when deciding if he is an appropriate person to be in charge of neighborhood watch? Any surprise he didn't listen to 911 dispatch and handled on his own?

Man I thought it was liberals who had loose standards. You really would have let that go and made the same decision the home owner's association would have made? Wow

Sounds like you've had some ugly run-ins with some people while loitering in their neighborhood. You're still upset about this? People can change, but even with that, I don't have a clue what the "MySpace" bragging from 2005 means. What if the cops were harassing Zimmerman because he's Hispanic? Would that matter?

 

[PapaG]

Also, for the 100th time, Zimmerman is a registered Democrat. He may not be a liberal, though.

 

[MickZagger]

Also, for the 100th time, Zimmerman is a registered Democrat. He may not be a liberal, though.

He's a mexican in his 20's of course he's a Democrat.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Sounds like you've had some ugly run-ins with some people while loitering in their neighborhood. You're still upset about this? People can change, but even with that, I don't have a clue what the "MySpace" bragging from 2005 means. What if the cops were harassing Zimmerman because he's Hispanic? Would that matter?

I don't know why you always got to take a shot at me. Hell you have had more bizarre "run ins" with people on this board than I have had my entire life. With all the "run-ins" I have had, I've never had to go into hiding fearing for my life, lying about my identity or get into macho threating over the internet. If you lose it on the internet, god knows how you have even survived socially with real people.


And what the my space material means (to spell it out because you are so blinded on this topic) is that Zimmerman does racially profile. Doesn't mean it wasn't using self-defense in this case, but he is quick to make a judgment call based on someone's race. Use it for what it is worth (and leave your pictures of air soft guns at home)

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think the mods here should be carrying air soft guns, we're like a neighborhood patrol.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I think the mods here should be carrying air soft guns, we're like a neighborhood patrol.

I carry a soft gun.

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[MickZagger]

I don't know why you always got to take a shot at me. Hell you have had more bizarre "run ins" with people on this board than I have had my entire life. With all the "run-ins" I have had, I've never had to go into hiding fearing for my life, lying about my identity or get into macho threating over the internet. If you lose it on the internet, god knows how you have even survived socially with real people.


And what the my space material means (to spell it out because you are so blinded on this topic) is that Zimmerman does racially profile. Doesn't mean it wasn't using self-defense in this case, but he is quick to make a judgment call based on someone's race. Use it for what it is worth (and leave your pictures of air soft guns at home)

lol! Oh the hilarity! The funniest part is the condescending nature in which he interacts on here. Then when the tables turn he can't handle it.

It makes for great times though.

 

[PapaG]

He's a mexican in his 20's of course he's a Democrat.

He's not Mexican, but that really doesn't matter.

 

[PapaG]

I don't know why you always got to take a shot at me. Hell you have had more bizarre "run ins" with people on this board than I have had my entire life. With all the "run-ins" I have had, I've never had to go into hiding fearing for my life, lying about my identity or get into macho threating over the internet. If you lose it on the internet, god knows how you have even survived socially with real people.


And what the my space material means (to spell it out because you are so blinded on this topic) is that Zimmerman does racially profile. Doesn't mean it wasn't using self-defense in this case, but he is quick to make a judgment call based on someone's race. Use it for what it is worth (and leave your pictures of air soft guns at home)

Wait, I took a "shot" at you? What was this?

But I do know why "Papa G" likes him . . . . any relation G-man?

Pretty much called me a racist there, KMD. I hadn't even posted to you. Seems like a shot at me, since you called me out. Unless I read it wrong?

http://sportstwo.com/threads/212056...Martin-Case!?p=2786207&viewfull=1#post2786207

 

[PapaG]

lol! Oh the hilarity! The funniest part is the condescending nature in which he interacts on here. Then when the tables turn he can't handle it.

It makes for great times though.

Well, I guess so, but TreatyofBatum playing the victim after calling me a racist (basically), when I didn't even mention him, seems kind of confrontational to me.

 

[PapaG]

Not expecting an apology, KissMyDarius. But it's clear you called me out first in this latest exchange.

 

[PapaG]

I don't know why you always got to take a shot at me. Hell you have had more bizarre "run ins" with people on this board than I have had my entire life. With all the "run-ins" I have had, I've never had to go into hiding fearing for my life, lying about my identity or get into macho threating over the internet. If you lose it on the internet, god knows how you have even survived socially with real people.


And what the my space material means (to spell it out because you are so blinded on this topic) is that Zimmerman does racially profile. Doesn't mean it wasn't using self-defense in this case, but he is quick to make a judgment call based on someone's race. Use it for what it is worth (and leave your pictures of air soft guns at home)

Um, is this the point where I say that you called me out specifically in a post as being a racist? Calm down.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Not expecting an apology, KissMyDarius. But it's clear you called me out first in this latest exchange.

If you go back to October 2008 I have called out everyone in this fourm at least once.

 

[PapaG]

If you go back to October 2008 I have called out everyone in this fourm at least once.

Oh, me too. Usually I don't play the victim for being "called out", literally minutes after calling out that poster a racist, though. I notice TreatyofBatum bailed, which was probably a good idea, considering his own hypocrisy.

That's cowardly. I PM'd him. Let's see if he responds.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Oh, me too. Usually I don't play the victim for being "called out", literally minutes after calling out that poster a racist, though. I notice TreatyofBatum bailed, which was proably a good idea, considering his own hypocrisy.

That's cowardly. I PM'd him. Let's see if he responds.

Bastard!

 

[PapaG]

Bastard!

You called me out!

Er, wait, I called you out! Oopsie Poopsie! Laterz!

That's cowardly.

 

[PapaG]

Stop calling me out, Sly! Wait, er, um...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Stop calling me out, Sly! Wait, er, um...

The more you argue with me on here the less time you have to argue with your wife so in a fact I feel that I'm saving your marriage.

You can thank me later.

 

[PapaG]

The more you argue with me on here the less time you have to argue with your wife so in a fact I feel that I'm saving your marriage.

You can thank me later.

OK. Thanks, I guess.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Well, I guess so, but TreatyofBatum playing the victim after calling me a racist (basically), when I didn't even mention him, seems kind of confrontational to me.

OK fair enough. I didn't think making fun of his name and your name was calling you a racist, but I can see how it can be taken that way.

To try and clarify, his nick name was Joe G your nick name is papag and you seem to really be supporting him, so I thought I would joke you guys are related . . . but the joke was strictly about the name and not you guys shared the same thought process.

Anyways, I really haven't made up my mind on this case, so I'll stop and see how all this plays out. (I'm pretty sure this is a case of a wanna be cop and rebellious kid both puffing up their chests until it led to a fight and a death . . . if the shooting was justified will be up to the jury.

Wonder if the verdict will lead to riots?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

you just called me a racist! youre a coward!! oh wait, i get it

 

[PapaG]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zim...juries-trayvon/story?id=16353532#.T7PKl-ttrvY

ABC News Exclusive: Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting

By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and SENI TIENABESO (@senijr_abc)
May 15, 2012
A medical report compiled by the family physician of Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation.

Zimmerman faces a second degree murder charge for the Feb. 26 shooting that left the unarmed 17-year-old high school junior dead. Zimmerman has claimed self defense in what he described as a life and death struggle that Martin initiated by accosting him, punching him in the face, then repeatedly bashing his head into the pavement.

Also today, a trove of documents are being examined by lawyers for both the defense and prosecution as part of discovery in Zimmerman's trial -- including 67 CDs worth of documents, video of Martin on the night of the shooting, his autopsy report and videos of Zimmerman's questioning by police.

Zimmerman's three-page medical report is included in those documents that the defense could use as evidence.

Watch World News with Diane Sawyer for the latest on the Trayvon Martin shooting and the trial of George Zimmerman.

The morning after the shooting, on Feb. 27, Zimmerman sought treatment at the offices of a general physician at a family practice near Sanford, Fla. The doctor notes Zimmerman sought an appointment to get legal clearance to return to work.

 

[PapaG]

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/autopsy-results-show-trayvon-martin-had-injuries-h/nN6gs/

Autopsy results show Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles

SANFORD, Fla. — WFTV has confirmed that autopsy results show 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles when he died.

The information could support George Zimmerman's claim that Martin beat him up before Zimmerman shot and killed him.

The autopsy results come as Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O’Mara continues to go over other evidence in the case.

O’Mara wouldn't comment on the autopsy evidence, but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said it's better for the defense than it is for the prosecution.

WFTV has learned that the medical examiner found two injuries on Martin’s body: The fatal gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles.

When you compare Trayvon’s non-fatal injury with Zimmerman's bloody head wounds, the autopsy evidence is better for the defense, Sheaffer said.

“It goes along with Zimmerman's story that he acted in self-defense, because he was getting beaten up by Trayvon Martin,” Sheaffer said.

The injury to Martin’s knuckle also fits with Zimmerman's story that before he shot and killed Martin, Martin had broken his nose and knocked him to the ground, slamming his head on the sidewalk.

But Sheaffer said there could be another explanation for Martin's knuckle injury.

“It could be consistent with Trayvon either trying to get away or defend himself,” Sheaffer said.

Zimmerman shot and killed the unarmed teenager almost three months ago after calling 911 to report the teenager was acting suspiciously.

Zimmerman said Martin threw the first punch and that he opened fire in self-defense after his screams for help went unanswered.

The FBI was not able to determine whether it was Zimmerman or Trayvon who could be heard crying out for help in 911 calls.

The defense is trying to decide what evidence it wants a judge to keep confidential before the media gets a chance to see it, but WFTV is being told that could happen in the next week or so.

 

[PapaG]

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/fbi-seeks-charge-george-zimmerman-hate-crime/nN5pR/

FBI may charge George Zimmerman with hate crime

SANFORD, Fla. — WFTV has learned charges against George Zimmerman could be getting more serious.

State prosecutors said Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, profiled and stalked 17-year-old Trayvon Martin before killing him, so the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime.

Zimmerman admitted to killing Martin in February during a confrontation. However, he claims the shooting was in self-defense. He's facing a second-degree murder charge, which carries a maximum possible sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. But if Zimmerman is charged and found guilty of a federal hate crime involving murder, he could face the death penalty.

FBI investigators are actively questioning witnesses in the retreat at the Twin Lakes neighborhood, seeking evidence for a possible federal hate crime charge.
Martin was unarmed when he was shot to death, police said, and some accuse Zimmerman of targeting the teenager solely because of the color of his skin.
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said federal prosecutors would have to prove the hate crime to charge Zimmerman, though.

“What the government would have to prove is that Mr. Zimmerman acted out of hatred toward African-Americans. That's why he came into contact with him. That's why he shot and killed him," Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer said a federal hate crime murder charge could bring more serious consequences than the second-degree murder charge Zimmerman faces now.
“Mr. Zimmerman could be punished by up to life in prison or even the death penalty,” said Sheaffer.

Zimmerman said he used deadly force in self-defense after Martin punched him, knocked him to the ground and repeatedly slammed his head against a sidewalk.
As of late Monday, Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, told WFTV that he's gotten the first prosecution documents containing the evidence against his client. O’Mara said he's gotten a redacted witness list with 22 witnesses listed only as numbers.

O’Mara said he believes there are recorded interviews and some documents, but he said he hasn't even opened it yet.

Prosecutors are required to release information to the defense and the public
However, O'Mara, wants Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. to keep some of the key evidence, especially witness statements, out of the public eye by writing a motion to keep it sealed.

O'Mara posted a statement on Zimmerman's website that said, "We doubt any of them (witnesses) enjoy the scrutiny they are under due to the coincidence of their involvement in such a high-profile matter."

In the meantime, a photograph recently surfaced which is said to show Zimmerman's mother in the arms of her grandfather, who is black.

Zimmerman's mother testified at his bond hearing that she has met the black child whom he mentored and even risked his safety in a dangerous neighborhood to do it, because he didn't want to abandon the child.

State prosecutors said Zimmerman gave several inconsistent statements to Sanford police, which is, in part, their basis for charging him with second-degree murder.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

But... But... But.... Papa, don't come in here with that fake and "weak garbage". Lies, all lies.

This would seemingly disprove everyone who initially claim that Trayvon was just an innocent in all of this. That was the world's sweet child and would never provoke anyone. That Zimmerman is a racist and was looking to harm a black person.

Ah. The defense is at at. They had someone beat up Zimmerman after the fact, so that Zimmerman would have a story to protect himself. And Trayvon, well, he hurt his knuckles defending himself after he was shot. And then Zimmerman roughed Trayvon's knuckles up some more, to further his own defense. It's so obvious this is manipulated. Hang Zimmerman - he's a racist and a murderer!!

 

[Eastoff]

It seems I was mislead. Clearly he was defending himself, but he also instigated the incident and probably didn't need to kill the kid.