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On a positive note. The -30 of his game last night was good enough to raise his PER from 7.9 to 8.2
 
BlayZa said:
if you actually want to see him block something, ask him on Twitter......

if you read anything he says about himself, he feels he's a huge impact guy and has no time for negativity.... or facts and statistics too, it seems.
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The only thing he impacts is Paul Allen's saving's account.
 
Jade Falcon said:
Sigh....



I want somebody to actually come out and ask him why he sucks so badly. Even if it means losing their job.
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Was anyone actually able to watch that whole clip? I made it to like the one minute point, and just had to skip the rest. Wow....
 
it sure would be great to be a part of the media in this situation, just make subtle jabs about things like that.
 
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IMHO, Butters (and Crabbe for that matter) was re-signed with the idea that Neil could extract some value out of him from another team. We'll see if Neil was right.

But as of now, his stats for this year are shockingly bad, including his 3FG%.

He's a good dude, but we can't currently afford to pay a 3rd stringer $10 mil/year.
 
I appreciated it when he cut that hideous mop of hair off but didn't feel it worthy of a thread.
 
For all the shit the guy gets around here, I actually appreciate that he's playing hurt. How many of you big talkers go to work everyday with two herniated disks in your back and a bad hip? And if you do, how many of you do anything more physically demanding than sitting on your ass all day?

The guy can barely run. He looks like the mummy out there, dragging one leg behind him, but the team needs him and he's playing through the pain. Until we got Nukic, for all his flaws, Meyers was our best screen setter. He's still out there setting screens to try to free up Dame and C.J. and you can see him visibly wince whenever a defender plows into his hip trying to fight through a screen, but he just keep setting them. He had a team leading 7 screen assists in less than 22 minutes played against PHO.

And before any of you know-it-alls try to dispute the value of Meyers Leonard as a screener, consider this, Meyers averages almost as many screen assists per minute as Jusuf Nurkic, and he's been doing it all season, not just for 22 games. Nurkic averages one screen assist every 5.6 minutes. Meyers averages one screen assist every 5.9 minutes.

Is he overpaid? Sure, but so are Crabbe, Turner and Ezili, even more so IMHO. For some reason people just seem to like to shit all over Meyers, but until some of you shit talkers start doing your job with a bad back, you may want to give the guy a little more respect.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
For all the shit the guy gets around here, I actually appreciate that he's playing hurt. How many of you big talkers go to work everyday with two herniated disks in your back and a bad hip? And if you do, how many of you do anything more physically demanding than sitting on your ass all day?

The guy can barely run. He looks like the mummy out there, dragging one leg behind him, but the team needs him and he's playing through the pain. Until we got Nukic, for all his flaws, Meyers was our best screen setter. He's still out there setting screens to try to free up Dame and C.J. and you can see him visibly wince whenever a defender plows into his hip trying to fight through a screen, but he just keep setting them. He had a team leading 7 screen assists in less than 22 minutes played against PHO.

And before any of you know-it-alls try to dispute the value of Meyers Leonard as a screener, consider this, Meyers averages almost as many screen assists per minute as Jusuf Nurkic, and he's been doing it all season, not just for 22 games. Nurkic averages one screen assist every 5.6 minutes. Meyers averages one screen assist every 5.9 minutes.

Is he overpaid? Sure, but so are Crabbe, Turner and Ezili, even more so IMHO. For some reason people just seem to like to shit all over Meyers, but until some of you shit talkers start doing your job with a bad back, you may want to give the guy a little more respect.

BNM
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Maybe the intent of my thread wasn't clear...

With all the "official super disco DIY appreciation threads" around here, there has never been a "Meyers Leonard Appreciation" thread on this forum. I just thought that was interesting.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Maybe the intent of my thread wasn't clear...

With all the "official super disco DIY appreciation threads" around here, there has never been a "Meyers Leonard Appreciation" thread on this forum. I just thought that was interesting.
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I didn't quote you, or mention you by name. My response was about the general way Meyers Leonard is this forum's favorite whipping boy. Yet, he's the one out there playing through pain to help his team win. Nurkic and Davis are out and Ezeli has not played one minute. So, I think the one guy who is lacing them up and playing through pain at least deserves a little respect, if not appreciation.

So again, I appreciate that he's playing through pain. If this is to become the de facto Meyers Leonard Appreciation Thread, it would be nice if at least one person said something appreciative about him.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
I didn't quote you, or mention you by name. My response was about the general way Meyers Leonard is this forum's favorite whipping boy. Yet, he's the one out there playing through pain to help his team win. Nurkic and Davis are out and Ezeli has not played one minute. So, I think the one guy who is lacing them up and playing through pain at least deserves a little respect, if not appreciation.

So again, I appreciate that he's playing through pain. If this is to become the de facto Meyers Leonard Appreciation Thread, it would be nice if at least one person said something appreciative about him.

BNM
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I appreciate that the dude seems to be a positive influence on the team chemistry. He seems like a very positive guy. It sucks because he's going through some personal shit off the court with his dog. I think the team has mishandled his development. Firing Kim Hughes has clearly been a huge step back for him.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I appreciate that the dude seems to be a positive influence on the team chemistry. He seems like a very positive guy. It sucks because he's going through some personal shit off the court with his dog. I think the team has mishandled his development. Firing Kim Hughes has clearly been a huge step back for him.
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Also, trying to make him into a stretch 4 was a mistake. They should have groomed him to be a center that occasionally steps out to the 3-point line - like Brook Lopez or Marc Gasol (comparing role, not talent). I know part of that is on Meyers and his inability to focus on multiple things in real time, but as soon as they cast him in the stretch 4 role, his rebounding, shot blocking and even dunking all disappeared.

And, don't say those things never existed. He blocked more shots his rookie year than his 2nd, 3rd and 4th years combined. His TRB% in his second and third years was above average for an NBA big, not elite, but above average. He also had 53 dunks his rookie year, but only a total of 56 in the four seasons since. The raw tools were there and he was making progress when we had a real big man coach.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Also, trying to make him into a stretch 4 was a mistake. They should have groomed him to be a center that occasionally steps out to the 3-point line - like Brook Lopez or Marc Gasol (comparing role, not talent). I know part of that is on Meyers and his inability to focus on multiple things in real time, but as soon as they cast him in the stretch 4 role, his rebounding, shot blocking and even dunking all disappeared.

And, don't say those things never existed. He blocked more shots his rookie year than his 2nd, 3rd and 4th years combined. His TRB% in his second and third years was above average for an NBA big, not elite, but above average. He also had 53 dunks his rookie year, but only a total of 56 in the four seasons since. The raw tools were there and he was making progress when we had a real big man coach.

BNM
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I'm not even sure why they thought he could be a stretch 4. Compared to someone like Nurk, he's really not that fluid or nimble. He's athletic, but not really quick. It was a bad fit from the start.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm not even sure why they thought he could be a stretch 4. Compared to someone like Nurk, he's really not that fluid or nimble. He's athletic, but not really quick. It was a bad fit from the start.
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In his 3rd season, we had Lopez and Kaman on the roster back then and needed him to be a back-up 4 more than a 3rd string center. And then he shot .769 from 3-point range in the MEM series and that cemented his status as a stretch 4, even after we lost Lopez and replaced him with Plumlee.

BNM
 
Yea its really too bad because he's shown he can be an effective one on one defender at the 5.
 
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Boob-No-More said:
For all the shit the guy gets around here, I actually appreciate that he's playing hurt. How many of you big talkers go to work everyday with two herniated disks in your back and a bad hip? And if you do, how many of you do anything more physically demanding than sitting on your ass all day?

The guy can barely run. He looks like the mummy out there, dragging one leg behind him, but the team needs him and he's playing through the pain. Until we got Nukic, for all his flaws, Meyers was our best screen setter. He's still out there setting screens to try to free up Dame and C.J. and you can see him visibly wince whenever a defender plows into his hip trying to fight through a screen, but he just keep setting them. He had a team leading 7 screen assists in less than 22 minutes played against PHO.

And before any of you know-it-alls try to dispute the value of Meyers Leonard as a screener, consider this, Meyers averages almost as many screen assists per minute as Jusuf Nurkic, and he's been doing it all season, not just for 22 games. Nurkic averages one screen assist every 5.6 minutes. Meyers averages one screen assist every 5.9 minutes.

Is he overpaid? Sure, but so are Crabbe, Turner and Ezili, even more so IMHO. For some reason people just seem to like to shit all over Meyers, but until some of you shit talkers start doing your job with a bad back, you may want to give the guy a little more respect.

BNM
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Meyers is bumping this in his Ford Super Duty right now.
 
This discussion is at least getting on the right track! My thread of last week that pointed out assigning Meyers to carry out the pick and run down the paint offense that Nurkic has developed can take the Blazers far into the playoffs really degenerated into some negative comments. Instead of negative judgments and malicious thoughts about negative teammate interactions, it is important to recognize the importance of the many screens set, assists, and efforts made.

Let's concentrate on getting the best out of the Blazers by discussing how to allow Meyers to concentrate on scoring high percentage shots (dunks, layups, and hooks) from Center position. At the perimeter, let's emphasize the great assists that he has made, and the great chemistry that Meyers can have with CJ and Dame that has allowed pretty assists that have benefited both ways!

From 3 point range, the more he shoots the better his percentage. Meyers should be making 3 or more 3 point shots per game. This forum is a chance to go for improving Blazer success. Let's keep it positive!
 
swish3 said:
This discussion is at least getting on the right track! My thread of last week that pointed out assigning Meyers to carry out the pick and run down the paint offense that Nurkic has developed can take the Blazers far into the playoffs really degenerated into some negative comments. Instead of negative judgments and malicious thoughts about negative teammate interactions, it is important to recognize the importance of the many screens set, assists, and efforts made.

Let's concentrate on getting the best out of the Blazers by discussing how to allow Meyers to concentrate on scoring high percentage shots (dunks, layups, and hooks) from Center position. At the perimeter, let's emphasize the great assists that he has made, and the great chemistry that Meyers can have with CJ and Dame that has allowed pretty assists that have benefited both ways!

From 3 point range, the more he shoots the better his percentage. Meyers should be making 3 or more 3 point shots per game. This forum is a chance to go for improving Blazer success. Let's keep it positive!
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Why are you saying "3 point shots"? They are swish3's dammit!
 
Sorry Meyers, I want you know that not everyone here is on board with bashing you like this. It's gone on for long enough now that it really feels childish. I understand if you decided to never againread these forums, but before you go I'd like to appologize on behalf of the individuals whom never outgrew the playground bully mentality.

Best of luck in your increased role going down the stretch, know that many of us do have faith in you!
 
Boob-No-More said:
For all the shit the guy gets around here, I actually appreciate that he's playing hurt. How many of you big talkers go to work everyday with two herniated disks in your back and a bad hip? And if you do, how many of you do anything more physically demanding than sitting on your ass all day?

BNM
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BNM:
How many? The same number that make $10 mil/year.

My guess is that Cliff would play with a broken leg for $2 mil/year.

I understand the impulse to be nice, but you're not being nice - you're dogging on a CBA player who isn't getting shit, because some guy was lucky enough to be drafted (and then extended) by Neil Olshey on a long shot bet that didn't pay off. If you care about merit at all, then you should be rooting for a DLeague player (Cliff or other) who deserves a shot based on their skill and hard work over Butters.

Again, I like him, he's a nice guy. I wouldn't even care about his salary if we weren't in cap hell. But, we are. His contract is guaranteed, and he and his contract need to move along. I wish him well, but I'm rooting for my team to win a championship, and right now he's an obstacle.

Butters
Good luck, Meyers. With your guaranteed contract, you'll earn 30+ times the amount of $$$ I'll make in my lifetime. I certainly don't begrudge you for your huge salary at all. You have a beautiful wife and a beautiful life. Just don't waste it, enjoy it. Don't lock yourself into some macho crap.

p.s. I'd love it if you retire in Oregon. If you do, let me know. I'd love it if you taught me how to paintball, you'd be a fun dude to hang out with.... and I'll even stop referring to you as Butters online!
 
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