$15 minimum wage.

[JfizzleBlazer]

Uhh, Quickbooks anyone? More and more people are doing their own accounting on Quickbooks and hiring CPAs on a minimal basis.

Lol, I've seen tons of people doing their own QuickBooks, cpas usually have to fix everything. And if they don't, cha ching for a fast and easy business return to prepare for $1500-2500 at least. Which takes all of thirtyminutes to prepare

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Turbo tax!!!!

Ah yes. TurboTax, keeping the irs in business because people don't know what they're doing or the documentation they actually need for the deduction

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Not that I'd expect less, but you all (except Jfizzle) seem unaware that there's a much larger world of accounting than just simple bookkeeping or tax preparation. Much like the legal and medical fields, there are many different areas of accounting in which one can specialize, the vast majority of which by their very nature simply cannot be automated.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

deez nuts cannot be automated.

 

[riverman]

Previous generations of parents would save from the birth of their kids to cover college costs. Now they demand someone else pay.

Everyone should make at least $15/hr. Except barfo.

you mean these folks from 1933?

 

[Denny Crane]

View attachment 5196 you mean these folks from 1933?

If their kids went to college.

I worked 3 jobs to pay my way through college, and took no assistance.

No such thing as a free lunch.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

People don't want to make sacrifices to finish college. I worked at a grocery store as a cashier and would see families with massive amounts of $$$ on Oregon trail food cards, getting soda, candy, ice cream, huge amounts of meat etc, while I'm going to school surviving off top ramen, chicken noodle soup,hot dogs etc. Those same people on food stamps would be back around the 21st complaining about how they didn't have enough money on their food stamps card and it's the states fault.

Sacrifices, in order to succeed. It's not that hard to succeed in life if you try.

 

[riverman]

The Navy paid for mine but it was in no way free.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

People don't want to make sacrifices to finish college. I worked at a grocery store as a cashier and would see families with massive amounts of $$$ on Oregon trail food cards, getting soda, candy, ice cream, huge amounts of meat etc, while I'm going to school surviving off top ramen, chicken noodle soup,hot dogs etc. Those same people on food stamps would be back around the 21st complaining about how they didn't have enough money on their food stamps card and it's the states fault.

Sacrifices, in order to succeed. It's not that hard to succeed in life if you try.

THAT IS WHITE PRIVLEGE BRO. TRY GIVING THAT ADVICE TO A YOUNG BLACK TEEN.

 

[PDXFonz]

$20 showers

 

[santeesioux]

You could probably invest in a meth lab with tweakers on that wage down there. Get that cheddar boy!

I can afford a cheap rv for the lab too!

 

[MARIS61]

If their kids went to college.

I worked 3 jobs to pay my way through college, and took no assistance.

No such thing as a free lunch.

3 "jobs" x 8hrs/day = 24 hrs/day

This would explain why you never actually retained anything from college.

Or maybe the 3 "jobs" you worked was really just mowing your neighbor's lawn 3 times?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Previous generations of parents would save from the birth of their kids to cover college costs. Now they demand someone else pay.

Everyone should make at least $15/hr. Except barfo.

I'm young, two young kids. Have small college savings funds that will provide both kids with $40K in funds for college tuition. My hope is that in the next year or two I can add an additional fund for each, or make sure I'm saving enough on the side. $40K may not be enough to cover their tuition by the time they reach college, but it's a good start that will help them avoid having too much debt after graduation (and if they graduate with something useful, I'd like to continue helping to pay the loans). I put myself through college for the most part, though the $10K in loans I had after graduating, my parents covered.

But yeah... your point generally rings true. I see a lot of people looking around, asking for help.

 

[Denny Crane]

3 "jobs" x 8hrs/day = 24 hrs/day

This would explain why you never actually retained anything from college.

Or maybe the 3 "jobs" you worked was really just mowing your neighbor's lawn 3 times?

I worked for the US Geological Survey, Chicago Title and Trust, and the ice arena. I was able to study on the last job since I only had to hand out and take returned states for about 10 minutes per hour.

I paid for my own books, tuition, summer school, rent, and food.

I like how a conspiracy theory sheep tells me what I retained from college.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Lol, I've seen tons of people doing their own QuickBooks, cpas usually have to fix everything. And if they don't, cha ching for a fast and easy business return to prepare for $1500-2500 at least. Which takes all of thirtyminutes to prepare

This. After 9 years in public accounting, I saw it all. We spent a lot of time cleaning up a ton of basic shit. It seems like the simpler the software, the bigger the mess. If someone was bright enough to use decent software, they were intelligent and knew how to properly enter transactions.

 

[Denny Crane]

A funny thing is my public grade school taught us how to balance a check book and follow the stock market. Seriously.

Useful skills for life.

I almost went to Lane Technical High School. Today, tuition there is $1,000/mo. Kids there are on one of two tracks: advanced/college and life skills. Kids who weren't suited for college, and many just aren't, at least learned a skill like auto mechanics, machine shop, cuisine, etc.

No child left behind.

A side note, at $12K/student, they spend about what public schools do.

A second note, Lane Tech has over 4,000 students in the one school.

 

[MARIS61]

Previous generations of parents would save from the birth of their kids to cover college costs. Now they demand someone else pay.

Everyone should make at least $15/hr. Except barfo.

Previous generations didn't have to support the 1%ers' lifestyle by working for peanuts at 2-3 jobs, while paying an inordinate amount of taxes due to 1%ers no longer paying any taxes to speak of.

In the mid-70's I was still not of legal drinking age, making close to $30,000 yr at a union job with incredible benefits and fully-paid healthcare insurance. In-state tuition at either Oregon college was around $3,000-$3,500 yr.

Wages are actually lower now, even without adjusting for inflation. Tax burden on a young single is 300-400% higher now. Cost of living is somewhere around 4,000% higher now.

 

[Denny Crane]

I made minimum wage, $2.50/hour at two of those jobs, $3.50/hour at the third.

Median income grew during the Reagan years, it didn't shrink.




We bought our first home in 1982, I think it was. $2800 down and a $50,000 purchase price. The escrow period was 90 days. When we applied for our loan, Jimmy Carter's interest rates were still in effect - 18 7/8%. Yes, 18+ %. In the 90 days we waited to close, the rate dropped to 12 1/8. Reagan saved us $400/month in mortgage payments. Screw tax cuts, those wouldn't add up to $400/month. $400/month for 30 years.

I wasn't then (nor now) the 1%. I was barely in the bottom of the middle class. That's who he helped.

I think you are incorrect about inflation and wages.

Only during the Obama years have wages gone down. At least in my lifetime since Jimmy Carter.