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.........and Saturday against the Pistons will be the LAST game of the year that we will be favored to win. Just bringing this up so you guys can cherish this nice W tonight. I'm thinking 3 more wins, maybe 4. Am I wrong?
 
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Man..... this is so damn conflicting.

On the one hand, I love our team. I love that they're playing hard and that they aren't giving up. I think it would mean a lot to these guys if they made the playoffs.

On the other hand, I don't think our team is good enough to win in the playoffs, and I'm scared that we're going to finish just short of the playoffs, but just ahead of the 12 spot.

:sigh:
 
We're kind of in "No Mans Land" huh?
 
We're kind of in "No Mans Land" huh?

Absolutely, and that's a terrible place to be. It seems like this team is playing much better though. Maynor has made a big big difference. I hope we keep him.
 
When is Vic coming back? He can be vital in our final push. We need at least 12 of these as per my estimation. Then have to win all of the games against UTA, LAL, HOU.
 
So do we want to make the playoffs? And if we do, does anyone think we can win?
 
Maybe a game or two. I want Dame to experience the RG in the playoffs. It would give us a bit more exposure to possibly help us land a FA.
 
I think this Kobe injury and UTA dying kinda leaves a sliver of hope.
 
But man, that is a TOUGH schedule! I would love to have my guys make the playoffs because that #12 pick basically isn't even going to help us out. But like I said, those are some TOUGH games, and our starters are beat.
 
Getting into the playoffs would be great in my opinion, the Blazers seem to have the Spurs number, assuming that they continue to hold the one seed, so anything could happen. Other than that series I wouldn't see them advancing further. At least it'd be fun.
 
So do we want to make the playoffs? And if we do, does anyone think we can win?

Yes. Lillard wants in so I think we should stand behind him. And yes, we can beat the Spurs in a best of seven series. Aldridge plays great against Duncan. Lillard loves playing them. And we aren't afraid of playing at their home.

.........and Saturday against the Pistons will be the LAST game of the year that we will be favored to win. Just bringing this up so you guys can cherish this nice W tonight. I'm thinking 3 more wins, maybe 4. Am I wrong?

It's games like the one against the Pistons that we lose. We're good against good teams. We've beaten Miami, San Antonio (twice), New York (twice), Memphis (in their building), Indiana (in a blowout), Chicago, Denver, Lakers, and Celtics. But we've lost to Sacramento (twice), Washington (twice), Cleveland, New Orleans (twice), Phoenix (twice), and yes, Detroit.

The good news is that 8 of our last 12 games are at home. We need to go 13-5 the rest of the way and I think it's possible. At worst, I see us going 11-7 and just missing out.
 
But we've lost to Sacramento (twice), Washington (twice), Cleveland, New Orleans (twice), Phoenix (twice), and yes, Detroit.

Plus losses to Orlando and Toronto. Honestly, this makes me legitimately angry every time I think about it. 12(!) losses to sub-.400 teams. Even winning just half of those, we're 36-28, and even with GSW for the 6 spot. Instead, we're still not even sure if we want to be a playoff team, let alone if we're good enough.

Here's how our year has broken down so far:
--vs teams below .400: 14-12
--vs teams between .400-.600: 7-11
--vs teams above .600: 9-11

We're actually better against the league's top 8 teams than we are against the middle 10. If that trend holds up over our final 18 games, we go about 7-11, and finish the year 37-45.
 
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Would Utah be favored in the Garden? Brooklyn?

LA probably will be - but we all know better.
 
I can see 6-7 wins out of that. (Tops) That would still give us the #12 pick and I think that pick can be used in a trade. So it is pretty valuable.

I will root for the Blazers to win during every game I watch. And if when we lose, I will go look at the standings and be thankful we lost. I know it is twisted but it works for me.
 
I think I'd rather we give the pick to Brooklyn this year, whilst we are still in the developing years of the younger guys - so that we have assets later on when we need to fine tune the roster. Even without that pick we can still improve our bench this coming offseason, and really I don't see too many players available that really 'move the needle'.
 
I think we'll go .500 the rest of the way if we continue to play our starters.
 
Last 4 games might be gimmies, with OKC, LAC, DEN, and GS sitting their stars at the end of the season.
 
At worst, I see us going 11-7 and just missing out.

I don't gamble, but would make an exception on this one. Let' make a bet on this. I know for a FACT that my beloved Blazers will come nowhere near 11-7. Let's bet FAMS!
 
Last 4 games might be gimmies, with OKC, LAC, DEN, and GS sitting their stars at the end of the season.

I don't know about the okc game. They maybe #1, and I think they'd rather face the lakers or Utah in the first round (no homer)
 
I think we'll go .500 the rest of the way if we continue to play our starters.

If we go .500 the rest of the way we'll probably finish 10th or 9th in the West, just outside of the cut for making the playoffs ... and just good enough to forfeit our pick to Charlotte.

Yippee.
 
I hoping...
Lillard averages 23.3 points/game for the rest of the season
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We make the playoffs or get our lottery pick.

But, I also hope Lillard continues his recent high FG% and assist numbers and low TOs.
 
If we go .500 the rest of the way we'll probably finish 10th or 9th in the West, just outside of the cut for making the playoffs ... and just good enough to forfeit our pick to Charlotte.

Yippee.

Whether we forfeit our pick or not is entirely dependent on the lottery balls. It doesn't matter where we finish as long as it's 9-13.
 
If we go .500 the rest of the way we'll probably finish 10th or 9th in the West, just outside of the cut for making the playoffs ... and just good enough to forfeit our pick to Charlotte.

Yippee.

As much as you think this is a whole lot of meh; I think just embracing a "don't quite attitude" with this ball club will payoff years down the road.
 
Whether we forfeit our pick or not is entirely dependent on the lottery balls. It doesn't matter where we finish as long as it's 9-13.

This don't mackea-no-sense.....
 
As much as you think this is a whole lot of meh; I think just embracing a "don't quite attitude" with this ball club will payoff years down the road.

I get what you're saying, but I think we've already seen that this team plays hard for each other and they seem to like playing under Stotts, but at some point maybe upper management needs to set a mandate to play the bench a lot more and get some answers on what they've got? That may sound like "tanking," but to me that's the difference between long-term strategic planning and short-term thinking. Olshey has to decide what's best for the health of this club. Making the playoffs might generate a little extra revenue (though not much as an 8th seed) and give guys like Damian a little taste of the big show, but more than anything this club still needs talent; the cheapest, highest percentage way to get real talent is through the lottery.

Fuck it, whatever happens is going to happen and it won't be the end of the world, but in a year where this team has two likely scenarios (getting an 11th or 12th pick, or forfeiting a 13th or 14th) and an unlikely one (squeaking into the playoffs and probably getting clobbered in 4 or 5 games) it'd be nice to see them take a knee so to speak and potentially improve their odds of actually being competitive in subsequent years.
 
I get what you're saying, but I think we've already seen that this team plays hard for each other and they seem to like playing under Stotts, but at some point maybe upper management needs to set a mandate to play the bench a lot more and get some answers on what they've got? That may sound like "tanking," but to me that's the difference between long-term strategic planning and short-term thinking. Olshey has to decide what's best for the health of this club. Making the playoffs might generate a little extra revenue (though not much as an 8th seed) and give guys like Damian a little taste of the big show, but more than anything this club still needs talent; the cheapest, highest percentage way to get real talent is through the lottery.

Fuck it, whatever happens is going to happen and it won't be the end of the world, but in a year where this team has two likely scenarios (getting an 11th or 12th pick, or forfeiting a 13th or 14th) and an unlikely one (squeaking into the playoffs and probably getting clobbered in 4 or 5 games) it'd be nice to see them take a knee so to speak and potentially improve their odds of actually being competitive in subsequent years.

I can relate to your entire thread and you make very valid points. The one thing I've learned so far this season is this team just doesn't quit.

I haven't seen this type of demeanor in a long while with this ball club. I guess I want to milk it as much as I can. It maybe the selfish homer in me.

In the end, with the pick or not, I have full confidence that olshey will make the most of it. Who knows, we may be pleasantly surprised.
 

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