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Black man in Minnesota had a concealed weapon permit, shot by police.

Black man in Dallas who was legally carrying a long gun to protest attacks against his 2nd amendment rights, publicly labeled as shooting suspect, detained and interrogated for hours by police.

NRA stays silent.

If these men were white I very much doubt the NRA would not be saying anything.
 
As the nation's largest and oldest civil rights organization, the NRA proudly supports the right of law-abiding Americans to carry firearms for defense of themselves and others regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation.

"The reports from Minnesota are troubling and must be thoroughly investigated. In the meantime, it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing.

"Rest assured, the NRA will have more to say once all the facts are known," the statement said.
 
MarAzul said:
Here is the asshole that riled up the faithful in Dallas before the shooting began.
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Jeff Hood
Now if your pissed about a shooting in Minnesota, why the hell are you raising hell in Dallas?
That like saying all police are guilty everywhere. Ha! Then dumb fucker turns around and disclaims the dude that did the shooting.
Not one of us, like you can't use the same brush they use. Bull shit BLM hate talk, fry um like bacon, dead cops, now! This talk stirs up the hate in to action
His, "God Damn White American" got the blood boiling last night. The fucking phony puke! Needs his ass hammered!

This jerk is as guilty as the guy that hollers fire in the theater. So are all the damn democrats that support BLM tactics.
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So you're in Bandon, Oregon complaining about someone in Dallas, Texas protesting about something that happened in Minnesota?!?
 
Denny Crane said:
As the nation's largest and oldest civil rights organization, the NRA proudly supports the right of law-abiding Americans to carry firearms for defense of themselves and others regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation.

"The reports from Minnesota are troubling and must be thoroughly investigated. In the meantime, it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing.

"Rest assured, the NRA will have more to say once all the facts are known," the statement said.
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it's not even loaded!
 
Denny Crane said:
As the nation's largest and oldest civil rights organization, the NRA proudly supports the right of law-abiding Americans to carry firearms for defense of themselves and others regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation.

"The reports from Minnesota are troubling and must be thoroughly investigated. In the meantime, it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing.

"Rest assured, the NRA will have more to say once all the facts are known," the statement said.
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The NRA didn't release that statement until people started asking why no statement.

"Critics are calling out the National Rifle Association for not quickly coming to the defense of Philando Castile, who was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota this week after reportedly acknowledging that he had a weapon and a concealed carry permit."

"But Friday afternoon -- almost two days after Castile was killed -- the NRA posted a statement on Twitter. It did not mention him by name."
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The NRA didn't release that statement until people started asking why no statement.

"Critics are calling out the National Rifle Association for not quickly coming to the defense of Philando Castile, who was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota this week after reportedly acknowledging that he had a weapon and a concealed carry permit."
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They really miss Charleton Heston
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The NRA didn't release that statement until people started asking why no statement.

"Critics are calling out the National Rifle Association for not quickly coming to the defense of Philando Castile, who was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota this week after reportedly acknowledging that he had a weapon and a concealed carry permit."

"But Friday afternoon -- almost two days after Castile was killed -- the NRA posted a statement on Twitter. It did not mention him by name."
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You complained they didn't. They did.

They don't comment on any other shootings by police or of people by other non police.
 
Denny Crane said:
You complained they didn't. They did.

They don't comment on any other shootings by police or of people by other non police.
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The NRA released a statement the day after the Orlando shooting.
 
Hilarious that people want a statement from the NRA. I'd keep my stupid mouth shut too if I were them.

It's like the ACLU defending NAMBLA or something. Keep that shit on the down low and hope nobody notices.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
According to you they don't release statements immediately after shootings. (psst... they did)
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High profile mass shootings they have. They don't for each of the thousands of other shootings a year.

What are they supposed to say about the cops shooting black men? It has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights. Those are complicated by issues of race, disparity, discrimination, and other things not related to the NRA's purpose.
 
Denny Crane said:
High profile mass shootings they have. They don't for each of the thousands of other shootings a year.

What are they supposed to say about the cops shooting black men? It has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights. Those are complicated by issues of race, disparity, discrimination, and other things not related to the NRA's purpose.
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But they did release a statement about the shooting in Minnesota. You yourself said they did.

What they haven't said anything about is something that does fall right in line with the NRA's purpose, a man protesting in support of his 2nd amendment rights, falsely labeled a suspect by the police, picture given to every major news organization in the USA, taken into custody, interrogated, and finally not released until after a family member showed up with an attorney. This man did nothing wrong, his only crime was being black.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
But they did release a statement about the shooting in Minnesota. You yourself said they did.

What they haven't said anything about is something that does fall right in line with the NRA's purpose, a man protesting in support of his 2nd amendment rights, falsely labeled a suspect by the police, picture given to every major news organization in the USA, taken into custody, interrogated, and finally not released until after a family member showed up with an attorney. This man did nothing wrong, his only crime was being black.
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The criticism I see is they aren't standing up for the 2nd amendment rights of the two black shooting victims.

They're not going to come out and defend the individuals who commit crimes with guns. They're right to wait for the facts to come out.

The man you're talking about was questioned and released. His 2nd amendment rights weren't violated.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Black man in Minnesota had a concealed weapon permit, shot by police.

Black man in Dallas who was legally carrying a long gun to protest attacks against his 2nd amendment rights, publicly labeled as shooting suspect, detained and interrogated for hours by police.

NRA stays silent.

If these men were white I very much doubt the NRA would not be saying anything.
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Do we have verification of the CCW?
 
Denny Crane said:
They're not going to come out and defend the individuals who commit crimes with guns.
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A broken tail light is not a crime with a gun.

Denny Crane said:
The man you're talking about was questioned and released. His 2nd amendment rights weren't violated.
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Good, then we both agree. We have no problem with the police taking into custody and questioning everyone legally carrying a weapon.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
A broken tail light is not a crime with a gun.



Good, then we both agree. We have no problem with the police taking into custody and questioning everyone legally carrying a weapon.
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Let the national broken tail light association deal with it. The NRA agrees with me that the circumstances and the appearance of what went down is disturbing. Let's see how the investigations play out - praise for justice carried out, condemn a miscarriage of justice. It's premature to say much other than the cops haven't figured out how to protect and serve as they should.

If there is an active shooting going on, and a person carrying a weapon like the ones being used who also matches the description of the shooter, sure, detain him.

People in Texas openly carry guns to all sorts of protests without incident. There's no 2nd amendment issue here.
 
Denny Crane said:
matches the description of the shoote
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There was never a description of the shooter issued by law enforcement. It was assumed that because of the type of protest it was that the shooter had to be black.

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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/08/3796589/dallas-misidentified-suspect/

The Dallas Police Department and the Dallas Police Association, the largest union representing the city’s police department, both tweeted a photo during the event of a young, black suspect holding a gun. The photo was plastered across national news.

Under Texas law, people can legally carry openly in most public places, including on the streets where the protests occurred.




This is one of our suspects. Please help us find him! pic.twitter.com/Na5T8ZxSz6

— Dallas Police Depart (@DallasPD) July 8, 2016
 
The police did what they did during the Boston marathon bombing. They looked at surveillance camera footage, cell phone pictures/movies submitted by the public, etc., and identified the bombers. The Dallas police got it wrong. There's nothing egregious about that.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/08/3796589/dallas-misidentified-suspect/

The Dallas Police Department and the Dallas Police Association, the largest union representing the city’s police department, both tweeted a photo during the event of a young, black suspect holding a gun. The photo was plastered across national news.

Under Texas law, people can legally carry openly in most public places, including on the streets where the protests occurred.




This is one of our suspects. Please help us find him! pic.twitter.com/Na5T8ZxSz6

— Dallas Police Depart (@DallasPD) July 8, 2016
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The Dallas Police never released a description of the shooter like you are claiming they did.

Denny Crane said:
and a person carrying a weapon like the ones being used who also matches the description of the shooter,
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Here is their twitter feed - https://twitter.com/DallasPD

"Who also matches the description of the shooter"

He was a black man with a gun, that's what made him of interest to the police but at that time there was no description of the shooter like you are claiming there was.
 
The Dallas Police Department and the Dallas Police Association, the largest union representing the city’s police department, both tweeted a photo during the event of a young, black suspect holding a gun.

The photo was plastered across national news. (And here you are denying it)
 
http://mashable.com/2016/07/08/dallas-police-shooting-mark-hughes-black-lives-matter/#5Ry9BUTCxaqm

Dallas police slammed for tweeting picture of 'suspect'



Hughes was later interviewed by KTVT and expressed his shock at seeing his picture being plastered all over the place: “I can’t believe it. I can’t believe it. The crazy thing about it is that, I was down here, I couldn’t get down to my vehicle because of the roadblock. And in hindsight, 20/20, I could have easily been shot.”
 
Denny Crane said:
The Dallas Police Department and the Dallas Police Association, the largest union representing the city’s police department, both tweeted a photo during the event of a young, black suspect holding a gun.

The photo was plastered across national news. (And here you are denying it)
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No I'm not, you are saying that photo matches a description of the shooter released by police. I'm saying very clearly that the police released the photo but never said the person matches a description of the shooter. They never released a description of the shooter like you are claiming they did.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
No I'm not, you are saying that photo matches a description of the shooter released by police. I'm saying very clearly that the police released the photo but never said the person matches a description of the shooter. They never released a description of the shooter like you are claiming they did.
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The photo IS the description. How much more descriptive can they be?
 
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