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Texas asked for federal aid in state of emergency after blasting federal government...

Sure, right, I guess honest people stand around and wait to get shot.

Everything bigger in Texas, including jerks.
 
crandc said:
Texas asked for federal aid in state of emergency after blasting federal government...

Sure, right, I guess honest people stand around and wait to get shot.

Everything bigger in Texas, including jerks.
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It's a dumb thing to say... I get the point - they're there to protest the police and it was the police rushing in to protect them.

With that said, of course the people should be running away. The worst possible thing they could do is stay in the area and add to the problem. It's much better if all the bystanders clear out and let the police do their job.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's a dumb thing to say... I get the point - they're there to protest the police and it was the police rushing in to protect them.

With that said, of course the people should be running away. The worst possible thing they could do is stay in the area and add to the problem. It's much better if all the bystanders clear out and let the police do their job.
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Yeah, they were all "fuck the police" but when shit goes down they probably used the police as human shields and felt safer because they were there.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's a dumb thing to say... I get the point - they're there to protest the police and it was the police rushing in to protect them.
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It's not really a good point, though. It's a perfectly coherent position to want an institution but also want it reformed. BLM wasn't protesting the existence of a police force--they were protesting the abuses of the police force and the lack of accountability.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Yeah, they were all "fuck the police" but when shit goes down they probably used the police as human shields and felt safer because they were there.
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I saw videos where the cops were rushing in and the asshole protesters were still doing their stupid "don't shoot" with their hands up thing.
 
Minstrel said:
It's not really a good point, though. It's a perfectly coherent position to want an institution but also want it reformed. BLM wasn't protesting the existence of a police force--they were protesting the abuses of the police force and the lack of accountability.
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I didn't say it was a good point. I said I understand the point.
 
5 police officers dead and 7 wounded by what they believe to be 2 snipers with 3 people of interest involved in the shootings.

I don't know what quite to say or think about our nation at this point.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I saw videos where the cops were rushing in and the asshole protesters were still doing their stupid "don't shoot" with their hands up thing.
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Many people, police included, thought it was fireworks at first.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I saw videos where the cops were rushing in and the asshole protesters were still doing their stupid "don't shoot" with their hands up thing.
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What exactly is stupid about holding up your hands and saying "Don't shoot"....to me that's the smartest move you could make in a crowd with gunfire and cops
 
riverman said:
What exactly is stupid about holding up your hands and saying "Don't shoot"....to me that's the smartest move you could make in a crowd with gunfire and cops
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Smartest move would be to get the fuck out of the way and remove yourself from the street.
 
Minstrel is absolutely right. I protest the actions of the US government; I also vote. I protest the way medical care is organized but I still go to doctors when needed. I protest the way food is grown and processed and the food service workers treated but I still do eat and while I grow a lot of food I do buy most of it. Wanting to change something is not the same as saying it should not exist. You could, in fact, make the opposite argument, that those who protest are the ones who care most.
 
riverman said:
What exactly is stupid about holding up your hands and saying "Don't shoot"....to me that's the smartest move you could make in a crowd with gunfire and cops
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Because they're doing it to cop cars as they try to drive through a crowd? I have yet to see a police car that can shoot someone. Maybe soon though?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Because they're doing it to cop cars as they try to drive through a crowd? I have yet to see a police car that can shoot someone. Maybe soon though?
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They're not doing it to anyone or thing...it's for self protection and I don't see that as an issue
 
blue32 said:
Fuck these people and anyone supporting these people. This behavior needs to be eliminated from this country.
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Yeah, those seven young kids doing dumb things are definitely the main problem with the country.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Most of those situations where blacks are shot by whites are the fault of the black suspects. Either not complying, resisting arrest, or just being belligerent.

What's my point? KILL WHITEY is the natural progression of Black Lives Matter. This blood is on the media and on Obama for fanning the flames of racial tensions. Making mountains out of mole hills.
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If I had to blame "the media"' I'd blame the social media. If your family member was shot and killed after being pulled over for a broken tail light, you'd make a mountain out of a "molehill" too. The national media is only reporting what has already been put out there by Joe Public. Joe Public was already pissed off before the national media got involved. And blaming Obama for this situation??? You ARE joking, right??? That makes as much sense as blaming him for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping or the Kennedy assassinations. My God, "we" as a country have stooped so fucking low. How the hell are we going to resolve these issues when we create false bogeymen to place the blame on. I'm a mellow old white guy but I can promise you that if I am detained by the police on a bullshit rap, and they put me face down on the ground for ANY reason, I'm going to be an angry MF. Several years ago I was detained under suspicion of DUI. I was completely sober and utterly cooperative and compliant. Yet the asshole who detained me made every effort to goad and provoke me into a negative response. When he cuffed me, I was made no effort to resist. Yet, because he apparently was a moron when it came to putting cuffs on, he made it appear to his buddy that I was resisting, and I got pretty well manhandled as a result. Just because a cop claims a suspect was resisting doesn't make it the truth. In too many cases it's a bullshit lie to justify incompetence at best and murder at worst. You want to blame the blacks and I want to blame the cops but the truth lies very much in between.......
 
Big difference between protesting and armed protest.
 
Rush thinks all of the protestors should be added to the No Fly List.
 
riverman said:
They're not doing it to anyone or thing...it's for self protection and I don't see that as an issue
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It was not. They weren't doing it for protection. It was the same stupid chant that they were doing before. They were walking TOWARDS the cops. You're picturing people cowering in fear and saying "DON'T SHOOT!"

I'm saying these were people who were walking towards the cop cars with their hands raised mindlessly droning "Don't shoot. Don't shoot." It wasn't for their safety.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
If I had to blame "the media"' I'd blame the social media. If your family member was shot and killed after being pulled over for a broken tail light, you'd make a mountain out of a "molehill" too. The national media is only reporting what has already been put out there by Joe Public. Joe Public was already pissed off before the national media got involved. And blaming Obama for this situation??? You ARE joking, right??? That makes as much sense as blaming him for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping or the Kennedy assassinations. My God, "we" as a country have stooped so fucking low. How the hell are we going to resolve these issues when we create false bogeymen to place the blame on. I'm a mellow old white guy but I can promise you that if I am detained by the police on a bullshit rap, and they put me face down on the ground for ANY reason, I'm going to be an angry MF. Several years ago I was detained under suspicion of DUI. I was completely sober and utterly cooperative and compliant. Yet the asshole who detained me made every effort to goad and provoke me into a negative response. When he cuffed me, I was made no effort to resist. Yet, because he apparently was a moron when it came to putting cuffs on, he made it appear to his buddy that I was resisting, and I got pretty well manhandled as a result. Just because a cop claims a suspect was resisting doesn't make it the truth. In too many cases it's a bullshit lie to justify incompetence at best and murder at worst. You want to blame the blacks and I want to blame the cops but the truth lies very much in between.......
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The national media changes the narrative. They are not impartial news sources, they make their decisions to report in a way that they see fit. There is no news anymore, they are politically aligned vehicles of propaganda.

Obama has been flaming these movements. He assumes those shot and killed were victims of police brutality before any investigation whatsoever. This is clearly a case of a Black on White hate crime/terrorist attack, yet the focus will be still on Gun Control Legislation and how young black males are victims.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
The national media changes the narrative. They are not impartial news sources, they make their decisions to report in a way that they see fit. There is no news anymore, they are politically aligned vehicles of propaganda.

Obama has been flaming these movements. He assumes those shot and killed were victims of police brutality before any investigation whatsoever. This is clearly a case of a Black on White hate crime/terrorist attack, yet the focus will be still on Gun Control Legislation and how young black males are victims.
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bullshit...Obama has been equally pissed at all the white, muslim and black shooting sprees during his administration...those students in Oregon weren't black males or the kids in the movie theater in Denver or that Amish School massacre..c'mon man...you're excercising tunnel vision to use Obama as your scapegoat. He wants gun control....that's your issue here it seems
 
riverman said:
bullshit...Obama has been equally pissed at all the white, muslim and black shooting sprees during his administration...those students in Oregon weren't black males or the kids in the movie theater in Denver or that Amish School massacre..c'mon man...you're excercising tunnel vision to use Obama as your scapegoat. He wants gun control....that's your issue here it seems
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If ever there was a shooting where guns were not to blame, this is it.

There is SO much more involved here than guns. Take your pick.

Police brutality/violence
Racial relations
Media overhyping something to create conflict/generate views and clicks
BLM basically serving as a conduit for violence towards the police

Guns aren't even in the top 3 or 4 reasons why this happened.
 
blue32 said:
You're fooling yourself if you think its only 7 kids.
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You're fooling yourself if you think young people lacking in perspective doing dumb but non-violent things is an important part of the story.
 
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