Zombie 2012 NBA Draft

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MickZagger said:
Do you have a link on that? I can't find it anywhere and you've relayed it a couple times, Sir Hammersticks.
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I just looked it up

http://swishscout.com/?page_id=683

Build: He’s only 6’9″, which might be just under the ideal height for an NBA power forward, but there are plenty of players that size in the league who can make up for that size and have success much like Jared will. With his big 280 lb. build, he uses his weight and strength well to ‘bang’ and position himself deep in the paint, also using his 7’2″ wingspan to allow him to play bigger than he really is. One leg is an inch longer than the other, noticeable as he limps up and down the floor, which could potentially leading to lingering injury issues in his career down the road. That body is his biggest asset and allows him to throw his weight around in the paint.
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Thomas Robinson is a flat out baller. If we can get him at #6 it would be a miracle.
 
Blaze01 said:
I agree, it sure appears that at this early date POR may have a chance to choose either Robinson and Drummond....

I just wonder, why would SAC take Robinson if they already have Cousins? Wouldn't it make more sense to take Drummond and move\keep Cousins at PF?
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The X-Factor with Sacramento is culture. Cousins is nutty and Tyreke is a chucker. The team lacks veteran presence and the coaching staff doesn't seem to command much respect. I think conventional wisdom is that they would prefer a Robinson, MKG, Barnes type who have a great attitude, winning mentality, professional approach, leadership, coachable, play the game the right way, etc. as opposed to a Drummond or Perry Jones type.

Dunno if they see Cousins as a career PF or C, but perhaps they're flexible depending on what other opportunities arise?
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Drummond has the chance to be better -- his quickness and his Oden-like size is rare. But will he ever 'get it'?
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I think the odds are lower that he won't versus will ... but at six you might as well swing for the fences (assuming T-Rob or Beal are not there when they pick).
 
From another board

Chad Ford (1:18 PM)
Olshey spent a lot of time on the high school circuit and really values young players who were highly ranked coming out of high school. Look at their picks, DeAndre Jordan, Al-Farouq Aminu, Eric Bledsoe, etc. He also loved OJ Mayo and worked hard to get him. So ... if they can't move up (I could see Beal) as a target, he won't be afraid at all to go after a guy like Andre Drummond or Perry Jones.
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This draft is pretty huge when you consider the talent pool that will be available next year and possibly 2014.

According to Ford, the scouts he has talked to say that next years draft is very week and 2014 isn't shaping up to be much better.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
This draft is pretty huge when you consider the talent pool that will be available next year and possibly 2014.

According to Ford, the scouts he has talked to say that next years draft is very week and 2014 isn't shaping up to be much better.
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Which means we should really try to secure another pick.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I think the odds are lower that he won't versus will ... but at six you might as well swing for the fences (assuming T-Rob or Beal are not there when they pick).
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Yeah I tend to think that these types of guys will give you some kind of return, you may have to wait quite a while though. Dwight worked out great, but he was a much more highly touted prospect. Bynum went 10th overall and I believe he had similar questions, he worked out. Favors made strides this season and looks like he'll have a nice career ahead of him. Even Kwame, who seemingly broke mentally in addition to just plain old having garbage hands and questionable passion for the game has turned into a solid defensive C. Shithead Erick Dampier carved out a decade plus career despite being a tremendously lazy POS.

Drummond has a long way to go but if you protect your investment in him and get a staff/big man coach to work one on one with him a lot I think at worst he'll be a solid starting C.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
With the lack of ANY young talent on this roster you can't trade these picks for a late-20's (Lowry) vet or the future is going to be pretty damn bleak.
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Amen. I'd like to see us buy a pick in the 20's. There's enough solid talent in the 20's. Or buy a pick, and package that with one of our picks to move up a couple spots to ensure we get who we want.
 
Per Twitter...

The Hornets have their #10 pick on the block but you have to take back either Ariza or Okafor.

That's a tough pill to swallow.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Per Twitter...

The Hornets have their #10 pick on the block but you have to take back either Ariza or Okafor.

That's a tough pill to swallow.
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Okafor wouldn't be too bad if we could get them to take Nolan Smith and Shawne Williams off our hands. Sure, he'd eat up some space but we'd get another lotto pick and a decent center for the next few years.
 
Highly touted (top 5) high school prospects in this draft:

Drummond (2012 #1, able to get into school early)

2011 - Davis (#1), Rivers (#2), MKG (#3), Beal (#4), Teague (#5), Q.Miller (#7), Wroten (#14)

2010 - Barnes (#2), Sullinger (#5), P.Jones (#9), W.Barton (#11), T.Jones (#13)

2009 - Henson (#5), Jenkins (#15), White (#19)
 
Natebishop3 said:
Okafor wouldn't be too bad if we could get them to take Nolan Smith and Shawne Williams off our hands. Sure, he'd eat up some space but we'd get another lotto pick and a decent center for the next few years.
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Eat up SOME space? Okafor is supposed to make 13mil next year, and then 14 after that. They should just drop the amnesty bomb on him.
 
I would consider it for Okafor, he is grossly overpaid ($13.5\$14.5 mil) but only for 2 more years and he fills a position of need....

Problem is he would eat up all your cap space to go and get a PG in FA, even if you snent N.Smith and S.Williams back.....

Ariza might be a better bet at $7mil, if you could send back Williams and or Smith you would still have $8-9mil to sign a FA....
 
Blaze01 said:
I would consider it for Okafor, he is grossly overpaid ($13.5\$14.5 mil) but only for 2 more years and he fills a position of need....

Problem is he would eat up all your cap space to go and get a PG in FA, even if you snent N.Smith and S.Williams back.....

Ariza might be a better bet at $7mil, if you could send back Williams and or Smith you would still have $8-9mil to sign a FA....
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I think we could still snag someone for 9 mil a year or something like that.

The thing is, I'm not convinced we could get someone in free agency this year that we couldn't do better in the draft at #10.
 
Yeah but if you can get Ariza (owed around $7mil for 2 more seasons), get a FA PG like Dragic or G.Hill, and have #6, #10 & #11 in this draft...I think that would be a good use of cap space...Ariza could play some SF, move Batum to SG....
 
Blaze01 said:
Yeah but if you can get Ariza (owed around $7mil for 2 more seasons), get a FA PG like Dragic or G.Hill, and have #6, #10 & #11 in this draft...I think that would be a good use of cap space...Ariza could play some SF, move Batum to SG....
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Ariza is a harder pill to swallow for me because he's a dirty piece of shit.
 
I think I hold onto all three.

#6 - Drummond
#10 - Perry Jones
#11 - Austin Rivers

Or if Drummond doesn't fall to us, take Lillard at 6 and then maybe PJII at 10 and T Ross at 11? There would be so many possibilities.
 
Lillard didn't play well against the better teams he faced (BYU, CAL, ASU, UNLV) and he is going to face far better talent than he did facing those teams....I think POR could do better by going the FA route to address PG...
 
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Blaze01 said:
Lillard didn't play well against the better teams he faced (BYU, CLl, ASU, UNLV) and he is going to face far better talent than he did facing those teams....I think POR could do better by going the FA route to address PG...
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Yeah, I'd rather look at a vet PG, but keeping both picks.

Dragic
Waiters
MKG
Aldridge

I like this core.
 
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