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RoyToy said:
Drummond = DeAndre Jordan/Tyson Chandler
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If that is the case I want him. However, he could be years away from developing and then another team would end up getting use of him after the blazers spend years developing.
 
Drummond tested out very well in the athletic tests. The specifics wont be released until later this week.

Physically and athletically, his combine numbers are similar to Mourning:

Drummond: 6'9.75" w/o shoes | 7'6.25" wingspan | 279 lbs. | 7.5 BF% | Age: 18
Mourning: 6'9.5" w/o shoes | 7'6.5" wingspan | 249 lbs. | 9.1 BF% | Age: 22
 
RoyToy said:
Drummond = DeAndre Jordan/Tyson Chandler
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Well, which? Those two are not very similar. Jordan is a dunker and little else, while Chandler is a great defender. (Jordan is barely adequate.)

What worries me about Drummond, besides the fact that he apparently doesn't know how to play, is that he's a surprisingly mediocre defensive rebounder.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Well, which? Those two are not very similar. Jordan is a dunker and little else, while Chandler is a great defender. (Jordan is barely adequate.)

What worries me about Drummond, besides the fact that he apparently doesn't know how to play, is that he's a surprisingly mediocre defensive rebounder.
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They're more than similar offensively.

Defensively Chandler is a better man defender while Jordan is one of the best shot blockers in the NBA.

I see Drummond as a guy that will have everything set up for him offensively while being able to protect the rim on the defensive end.

His upside is higher than any in the draft, but I'm not sure how close he'll get to reaching it. He's a big project.
 
RoyToy said:
They're more than similar offensively.

Defensively Chandler is a better man defender while Jordan is one of the best shot blockers in the NBA.

I see Drummond as a guy that will have everything set up for him offensively while being able to protect the rim on the defensive end.

His upside is higher than any in the draft, but I'm not sure how close he'll get to reaching it. He's a big project.
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Huge.

He's probably a good three years away.
 
NBAdraft.net with an update:

Drummond rises to #2

Lillard at #6 (over Beal? come on, son!)

Leonard rises to #10

Terrence Ross at #11
 
I will say though despite comparing Drummond to Jordan, I think Drummond could be easily turn out to be a better player.

Jordan has absolutely zero touch on anything he does. IMO Drummond flashes a lot more touch and even made some 7 footers last year.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
NBAdraft.net with an update:

Drummond rises to #2

Lillard at #6 (over Beal? come on, son!)

Leonard rises to #10

Terrence Ross at #11
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It is going to be interesting...it seems after the combine quite a few players are rising. It's going to make for a very fun draft because honestly, after Anthony Davis I don't think anyone has a fucking clue of where people are going to go.
 
Terrence Ross is another guy that's really been growing on me

With his athleticism and shooting ability, the Jason Richardson comparison I read isn't a bad one.
 
Just curious, do you guys watch much college basketball or do you base most of your decisions off of draft measurements and "experts" picks?
 
BlazerBeav5 said:
Just curious, do you guys watch much college basketball or do you base most of your decisions off of draft measurements and "experts" picks?
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I watch a ton of college basketball.

Which is why I really want one of the following players: Robinson, MKG, Beal.
 
BlazerBeav5 said:
Just curious, do you guys watch much college basketball or do you base most of your decisions off of draft measurements and "experts" picks?
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I try to only make actual judgements on players I've seen play. Can't watch as much college bball as I used to though.

I do find myself questioning whether the long break between the end of college hoops season and the draft sways my opinion on guys. You see a guy and you have him pegged and then over a few months of reading this and that, watching clips, etc. you start thinking of them differently and wonder whether you were wrong at first or if you're buying into other people's opinions.
 
Some "experts" always fall in love with certain prospects, totally buying into the hype.

Chad Ford is notorious for this. He was on that Darko over LeBron bandwagon and was head over heels for Pavel Podkolzine.
 
Yeah sometimes the media buys its own hype even when the consensus doesn't. I remember when Marvin Williams was coming out the media was saying "HES SO FUGGING GREAT ISNT HE!!!!!" and I literally can't remember any fans who understood where this fascination had come from.

And don't get me started on the guys who are college analysts who are asked to give insight into the NBA draft. The saddest thing is they must know that they're lying to us all and lying to themselves when pimping these good college players that clearly have no future in the league. Its pathetic to watch.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Some "experts" always fall in love with certain prospects, totally buying into the hype.

Chad Ford is notorious for this. He was on that Darko over LeBron bandwagon and was head over heels for Pavel Podkolzine.
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Ford is quite bad at remaining unbiased with some players.

Another player to keep an eye on and someone I have really started to fall in love with is Arnett Moultrie. He's been rising on boards since the end of the season and his good measurements at the combine. He'll end up around 12-15 and I think could be a great addition depending on what we do with our picks. SEC's leading rebounder last season and could potentially be paired as a C next to LA.

Pre-Draft Measurements:
Height w/o Shoes: 6' 9''.5
Height w/ Shoes: 6' 10''.75
Weight: 233
Wingspan:7'2''.25
Standing Reach: 8'10''.5
Body Fat %: 7.7%
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NBAdraft.net Profile:
NBA Comparison: Jermaine O'Neal/Jason Thompson

Strengths: High-level athlete combo forward with excellent size and length. Versatile offensive skill set to score inside/outside (16.5 PPG). Could be seen as being big enough to play center in today's NBA. He possesses rare agility at 6’11 in tandem with a hunger for activity and relentless motor. Runs the court like a guard, with a fluid gait and long, easy strides. Nightmare matchup for opponents on the interior due to explosive quickness and elevation. Extraordinarily nimble and quick mover in the paint. He has added strength and bulk (225 to 240) without losing that calling card explosiveness. Uses his athleticism to earn high percentage looks (58%), elevating above defenders. Displays a deft touch and equally adept at finishing with his left hand. Electric spin moves in the post over either shoulder, preferring to attack baseline. Body control and hang time to make the appropriate in-air adjustments and alter release after a bump or if impeded. 83% free throw shooter on over 5 attempts (65% as sophomore). Rebounds at will on both the offensive and defensive backboards, ranking amongst the nation’s leaders with 10.8 per game. Quick leaper on multiple jumps while still retaining 1st jump lift. Utilizes his length and mobility to rebound out his direct vicinity. Flourished on the perimeter during his time at UTEP, albeit in a more liberal style of play. Comfortable in the mid-range with the ability to step out behind the three-point stripe. He has the potential to be an effective face-up weapon with a quick first step and long frame. Had a tendency to play in a “rushed state” early in his collegiate career, but has found an efficient pace his junior season. Doesn’t force shots and playing within a more defined role for the betterment of the team. He displays legit lateral quickness and foot speed to defend on the perimeter and not look like a fish out of water. Multiple position defensive adaptability. Mentally and physically a different player since arriving in the SEC.
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It cracks me up that one good day and good jumping ability at a combine can tell you more then watching them play actual basketball for a whole season?
 
After reading about the uncertainty in Boston following their heartbreaking end to the ECF, I'm thinking a perfect draft scenario is get Lillard and whatever frontcourt prospect is available (i.e. PJIII), then go hard after Steve Nash and Ray Allen in free agency and hope to hell that our medical staff can keep them healthy.

Lillard's big question mark is how well he can run a team, and who better to learn from than Nash? At this point in Nash's career, they would probably split the minutes 50/50, so plenty of time for Lillard to develop. And for Nash to be at his most effective, you want a shooter like Allen to help spread the floor.
 
handiman said:
After reading about the uncertainty in Boston following their heartbreaking end to the ECF, I'm thinking a perfect draft scenario is get Lillard and whatever frontcourt prospect is available (i.e. PJIII), then go hard after Steve Nash and Ray Allen in free agency and hope to hell that our medical staff can keep them healthy.

Lillard's big question mark is how well he can run a team, and who better to learn from than Nash? At this point in Nash's career, they would probably split the minutes 50/50, so plenty of time for Lillard to develop. And for Nash to be at his most effective, you want a shooter like Allen to help spread the floor.
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With Nash as a two year (at most) rental I'd still opt to trade up for Robinson.

No better PG to have to jumpstart a career.
 
RealGM......... Another Promise?



Austin Rivers has reportedly received a promise from a team picking in the late lottery, according to a Yahoo! Sports report.

Rivers did not fully participate in the NBA pre-draft combine last week.

He is scheduled to workout for Portland, Toronto, Houston, Cleveland, Phoenix, Washington and New Orleans.

The Suns own the 13th overall pick and have been open about their desire to add a perimeter scorer.

Via Marc J. Spears/Yahoo! Sports


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221472/Report_Rivers_Has_Lottery_Promise#ixzz1xRo438Ts
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
NBAdraft.net with an update:

Drummond rises to #2

Lillard at #6 (over Beal? come on, son!)

Leonard rises to #10

Terrence Ross at #11
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Hard to believe we'd pass on Beal and Sullinger. Terrence Ross?

They also have Portland picking two wing players at #40 and #41 - Darius Miller and Hollis Thompson. For a team in need of some bigs, that's a lot of mediums and smalls.
 
Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanCBS
Kendall Marshall may go up against fellow PG Damian Lillard next week in either New Orleans and/or Portland, source told CBSSports.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanCBS
Kendall Marshall may go up against fellow PG Damian Lillard next week in either New Orleans and/or Portland, source told CBSSports.
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That is so meaningless. Lillard will toast him in a head to head workout. That is not Marshall's strength. But, if Marshall does hold his own it would really help him.
 
If they played 5v5 Marshall's strengths would shine.
 
AlexKennedyNBA

The 76ers may be trying to trade up in the draft. They met with center Andre Drummond at the combine, even though he'll be long gone by #15.
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Fez Hammersticks said:
Bad move by his agent!

We are one of the few teams in the lotto that can slide up to #2.

Oh well, as I've mentioned in another thread, this team needs a big in the worst way.
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If we trade up to #2 it because were targeting Robinson.
 
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