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Fez Hammersticks said:
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Nobody likes the Texas Rangers.

Except as their doormat in the World Series.

That is all.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
FTFY
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wait...so the choices are a 6'4 shooting guard who could be Wade Junior but who may or may not be able to shoot and couldn't start on his college team, a 7' big man who hasn't really improved in 3 years, fades in big games and we're not sure really likes basketball, and a SF/PF who may or may not have the ability to get his shot off OR put the ball on the floor and get by his man OR play D at the NBA level? Oh yeah, and our two best players are at PF and SF.

You're right. How could I think those choices are risky?
 
May I make a modest suggestion? As this thread is 192 pages and counting, during the actual draft Thursday can we start a new Draft In Process thread? It is getting a tad unwieldly. Mods?
 
BrianFromWA said:
wait...so the choices are a 6'4 shooting guard who could be Wade Junior but who may or may not be able to shoot and couldn't start on his college team, a 7' big man who hasn't really improved in 3 years, fades in big games and we're not sure really likes basketball, and a SF/PF who may or may not have the ability to get his shot off OR put the ball on the floor and get by his man OR play D at the NBA level? Oh yeah, and our two best players are at PF and SF.

You're right. How could I think those choices are risky?
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BAM, FAMS!
 
Blaze01 said:
Are you not aware that 1 vs none or vs a bunch of old coaches doesn't come CLOSE to simulating a real game situation let alone playing against top tier NBA competition?

Back to Homerville for you....
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Do any of the workouts simulate that? NOPE. Back to cluelessville for you... FAMS! :devilwink:
 
BrianFromWA said:
wait...so the choices are a 6'4 shooting guard who could be Wade Junior but who may or may not be able to shoot and couldn't start on his college team, a 7' big man who hasn't really improved in 3 years, fades in big games and we're not sure really likes basketball, and a SF/PF who may or may not have the ability to get his shot off OR put the ball on the floor and get by his man OR play D at the NBA level? Oh yeah, and our two best players are at PF and SF.

You're right. How could I think those choices are risky?
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AMEN
 
crandc said:
May I make a modest suggestion? As this thread is 192 pages and counting, during the actual draft Thursday can we start a new Draft In Process thread? It is getting a tad unwieldly. Mods?
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Terrible idea.

You don't have to read through the entire thread visit to get to the end/current page - you know that right? :MARIS61:
 
BrianFromWA said:
wait...so the choices are a 6'4 shooting guard who could be Wade Junior but who may or may not be able to shoot and couldn't start on his college team, a 7' big man who hasn't really improved in 3 years, fades in big games and we're not sure really likes basketball, and a SF/PF who may or may not have the ability to get his shot off OR put the ball on the floor and get by his man OR play D at the NBA level? Oh yeah, and our two best players are at PF and SF.

You're right. How could I think those choices are risky?
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Derp.
 
crandc said:
May I make a modest suggestion? As this thread is 192 pages and counting, during the actual draft Thursday can we start a new Draft In Process thread? It is getting a tad unwieldly. Mods?
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Plan is to have a "last minute rumors" thread Wednesday, and then a "draft" thread on Thursday night like a game thread--starting around 2 hrs before (if not already posted).
 
BrianFromWA said:
Plan is to have a "last minute rumors" thread Wednesday, and then a "draft" thread on Thursday night like a game thread--starting around 2 hrs before (if not already posted).
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Can we make sure every thread is properly titled with "THE OFFICIAL..."?
 
Players of whom I already thought what the scout said:
BAD:
Barnes: "I can't figure him out. I want him to be better than he is"
Perry Jones: "how do you have that skill set and be that inconsistent? Over 82 games, there will be 30 where you're going to wonder if he's even on your team. He is who he is. He makes plays that take your breath away, and then he disappears for a while. You see him get his ass kicked by Kevin Jones or Thomas Robinson or Jeff Withey and you wonder when things are going to click."
Terrence Jones: "Whoever drafts him is going to have to keep a thumb on him, because he's not a self-starter. That's a problem at this level."
Rivers: ""My biggest concern with him is size. He's never going to be a pure point because it's not in his personality. He's a capable passer, but he hasn't been a willing passer."
Robinson: "I don't know if he's an all-star" (yeah, it's not very bad)

GOOD:
Barton: "I'm a fan. Tough kid, high energy, he can dribble and pass, and he can rebound well for a little guy. I think he likes to win. He cares. His skinny body worries me a little bit, but he just figures out a way to compete out there."
Beal: "He's also a great kid, almost presidential." (!)
Harkless: "Two years from now, we might be saying, 'Wow, that guy was picked 20th?'"
Sullinger: "He's as good a basketball player as there is in the draft."
Jeff Taylor: "He doesn't do anything off-the-charts well, but he does everything really well. He's a terrific athlete. He can almost guard four positions because he's so damn strong."
Waiters: ""I'm a big fan. He's Dwyane Wade-ish. I don't know if he's pure enough to be a two, but he's just a baller. And he definitely has a little toughness in him. The only drawback is he's a little small, but he's thick, and he's a surly guy. He'll be an East Coast version of Rodney Stuckey. I would take him over Jeremy Lamb five times a day."
Zeller: "Everybody complains they can never find a center. Well, here he is. There's absolutely no scenario where he's not going to succeed." (wow!)

Players where what the scout said made me question my view:
BAD: (i.e., I liked them, he's lukewarm)
Crowder: "For a mid-second-round guy, he's not bad. I don't know quite what his NBA skill is other than he plays hard."
Draymond Green: ""I'm not feeling [him]. I think he's an average athlete. He has a high I.Q. and he's coachable, so he'll survive for a while. He has versatility, can really handle the ball, and his shot's not broken."
Henson: "I worry about kids who have high centers of gravity, because that usually means they have poor balance."
MKG: "He needs to work on his shooting and his ballhandling is just average." (I mean, I knew that, but he doesn't rave at all)
Machado: "He's a second-round pick. The system he played in at Iona made him look pretty good."
O'Quinn: "He's a poor man's Kurt Thomas" (I think this was meant as a compliment!)

GOOD: (i.e., he likes them more than me)
Jeremy Lamb: ""That kid can really play. His facial appearance and body language makes it appear that he doesn't care, but he does." (but notice how he'd take Waiters over him five times a day)
Lillard: "the most unselfish scoring point guard I have ever seen"
Ross: "Maybe the biggest sleeper in the draft"
 
BrianFromWA said:
Plan is to have a "last minute rumors" thread Wednesday, and then a "draft" thread on Thursday night like a game thread--starting around 2 hrs before (if not already posted).
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I have an idea...

Have a thread where ONLY breaking news links/quotes are posted and then discussed in the regular draft thread. Easier to sift through.
 
Lillard: "the most unselfish scoring point guard I have ever seen"
Ross: "Maybe the biggest sleeper in the draft"
Zeller: "Everybody complains they can never find a center. Well, here he is. There's absolutely no scenario where he's not going to succeed." (wow!)

:cheers:
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Terrible idea.

You don't have to read through the entire thread visit to get to the end/current page - you know that right? :MARIS61:
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Yes, I know that. But this thread is about draft speculation/rumors/hopes so I suggested a new one on the actual draft in process. Obviously it's a suggestion, if people want to combine them all into a superthread I can't stop anyone.
 
Matt Steinmetz ‏@MSteinmetzCSN
Warriors GM Bob Myers & owner Joe Lacob flew to NY for private workouts of Andre Drummond, Harrison Barnes.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Pretty decent chance one of them is there at #7
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I'd say that there's a significant chance one is there at #7.

There's been a consensus top-6, with Lillard now in that conversation (as rumors indicate he's going #6 to PDX). If any of the top-6 are available at #6, besides Drummond, I expect Portland to take said player. Then Lillard at #6, then Drummond to #7.

Otherwise, maybe GS is trying to get #5. Or potentially we could slide back a spot (if nobody we want at #6 is available besides Lillard or whomever), GSW takes the guy remaining from the consensus top-6, and we get an extra asset.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
I think they'll both be gone. MKG is the guy that's gonna drop IMO.
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I know they have scouted all these guys to death, but that has to give them a bit of pause if you are at 6 and see MKG on the board. "What does everyone else know that we don't?" Unlikely, but I'm sure they are prepared for anyone dropping. I think Barnes and MKG are still the most likely to drop, but hope both are taken in the top 4.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I'd say that there's a significant chance one is there at #7.

There's been a consensus top-6, with Lillard now in that conversation (as rumors indicate he's going #6 to PDX). If any of the top-6 are available at #6, besides Drummond, I expect Portland to take said player. Then Lillard at #6, then Drummond to #7.

Otherwise, maybe GS is trying to get #5. Or potentially we could slide back a spot (if nobody we want at #6 is available besides Lillard or whomever), GSW takes the guy remaining from the consensus top-6, and we get an extra asset.
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doesn't GS have the 30 pick? if we still get our guy we should be able to "at least" get that out of them
 
Not sure if this has been posted.... But nbadraft.net has MKG sliding to #7 and the Warriors. Just updated.

Wow.
 
So I would imagine Olshey has his own draft order, ie Pick these people if they are available. They just cross off whomever gets taken. But, would they continue on that order for 11, or do they have plans specific to who they get at 6. Ie: if we draft Lillard, we draft a SF. If we draft Barnes, then we draft a PG.
 
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