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Indiana's going to pay Chris Copeland $6.1 mill over the next two years? WTF?

Chris Copeland has agreed to sign a two-year, $6.1 million deal with the Indiana Pacers.

The New York Knicks will be unable to match despite Copeland's status as a restricted free agent.
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B-Roy said:
We don't have the full MLE because we are starting off under the cap. Only have room exception.
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You have to waive the MLE to create cap space. So technically, if we traded JJ for 9.5(unlikely, but go with it), then we can trade part of the TPE for RObin, and part for Robinson. Because we used bird rights with JJ, instead of cap space, we'd technically have never waived the MLE.
 
RR7 said:
You have to waive the MLE to create cap space. So technically, if we traded JJ for 9.5(unlikely, but go with it), then we can trade part of the TPE for RObin, and part for Robinson. Because we used bird rights with JJ, instead of cap space, we'd technically have never waived the MLE.
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Genius!!!!
 
B-Roy said:
We don't have the full MLE because we are starting off under the cap. Only have room exception.
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Only under the cap if we renounce all cap holds. Since moratorium has not ended, nothing has yet technically been renounced. Maynor and JJ's cap holds are sufficient to keep us above the cap, allowing us use of MLE, if we worked everything properly.
 
RR7 said:
You have to waive the MLE to create cap space. So technically, if we traded JJ for 9.5(unlikely, but go with it), then we can trade part of the TPE for RObin, and part for Robinson. Because we used bird rights with JJ, instead of cap space, we'd technically have never waived the MLE.
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I don't see the point in that though. Assuming we waive the MLE, we're set to have about $3.5 million under the cap + $2.6 million room exception. That added up just about equals the MLE anyways. Assuming you're going after a SF and a PG...it won't really make a difference.

Also, pretty sure Dell Demps structured the NO deal in a way that it would fit under the 150% rule. If you split the deal I'm not sure it would still work that way and NO wouldn't do it. Not to mention Portland is sending things to both Sacramento and New Orleans. It would be a complicated mess that I'm sure the teams don't want to deal with.
 
B-Roy said:
I don't see the point in that though. Assuming we waive the MLE, we're set to have about $3.5 million under the cap + $2.6 million room exception. That added up just about equals the MLE anyways. Assuming you're going after a SF and a PG...it won't really make a difference.

Also, pretty sure Dell Demps structured the NO deal in a way that it would fit under the 150% rule. If you split the deal I'm not sure it would still work that way and NO wouldn't do it.
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Unless it was for one or the other
 
Don't know if anyone else has posted this yet, with all the Dwight Howard b.s., but the 76er's acquired Royce White earlier tonight -

The Philadelphia 76ers have agreed to acquire Royce White from the Houston Rockets for future draft considerations.

The Rockets cleared White's $1.7 million salary for next season to offer a max contract to Dwight Howard.

White was limited during his rookie season to a well-publicized anxiety disorder.

76ers' GM Sam Hinkie was with the Rockets when White was drafted.
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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228675/76ers-Acquire-Royce-White

Still rooting for the guy... can't imagine the fans in Philly will cut him much slack with his anxiety disorder though...
 
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magnifier661 said:
So getting a jack for hickson in that scenario right?
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no. You'd use the TPE to acquire Lopez.

Thinking it through, however, I don't think it's actually feasible. Say we created a TPE by S&T JJ to GS for the amount to cover Robin, that's a say 6 million TPE. Combined with our 5 million dollar MLE, that's right about where we were with our cap space. But, we don't have Robinson. And no real way to create another TPE to grab him.
 
RR7 said:
no. You'd use the TPE to acquire Lopez.

Thinking it through, however, I don't think it's actually feasible. Say we created a TPE by S&T JJ to GS for the amount to cover Robin, that's a say 6 million TPE. Combined with our 5 million dollar MLE, that's right about where we were with our cap space. But, we don't have Robinson. And no real way to create another TPE to grab him.
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Damn... Well it was a good thought
 
RR7 said:
no. You'd use the TPE to acquire Lopez.

Thinking it through, however, I don't think it's actually feasible. Say we created a TPE by S&T JJ to GS for the amount to cover Robin, that's a say 6 million TPE. Combined with our 5 million dollar MLE, that's right about where we were with our cap space. But, we don't have Robinson. And no real way to create another TPE to grab him.
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Yes, it would only work if GSW wanted to pay Hickson enough to generate a large enough TPE for us to use it to bring in both Lopez and Robinson (which, unfortunately, would be about 9.5M because of the trade kicker). If, somehow, Hickson gets an offer like that, then and only then would my crazy idea be possible.
 
So apparently one of the main reasons Dwight apparently left LA was because he didn't want to be Kobe's sidekick (via Sportscenter). I wonder if he means a "sidekick" in terms of perception or possessions. If he means a sidekick in terms of possessions and his role on the team, then I don't know what role he expects to play with Harden out there, who jacked up 17+ field goals per game last season. Not to mention, if he had stayed in LA, he would have been the Lakers' go-to offensive threat until Kobe recovered from his ACL surgery.
 
NOVoodoo said:
So apparently one of the main reasons Dwight apparently left LA was because he didn't want to be Kobe's sidekick (via Sportscenter). I wonder if he means a "sidekick" in terms of perception or possessions. If he means a sidekick in terms of possessions and his role on the team, then I don't know what role he expects to play with Harden out there, who jacked up 17+ field goals per game last season. Not to mention, if he had stayed in LA, he would have been the Lakers' go-to offensive threat until Kobe recovered from his ACL surgery.
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He probably means perception. He's no one's sidekick now.
 
Has a major free agent ever left LA before? I can't remember anything like this ever happening in the past.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
HMM Interesting. I wonder what happend to Josh Smith. That goes against all the other theories out there. But it makes sense for Houston
Houston.
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If they pull that off, then I have to say I'm kind of liking New Orleans' new look ... That's plenty of front-court talent, a good backcourt with Holiday and Gordon (with Tyreke as a super-sub sixth man) and Aminu is no great shakes at the three spot, but passable.

I'm not sure that's a sure-fire winner, but it's a start.
 
Nikolokolus said:
If they pull that off, then I have to say I'm kind of liking New Orleans' new look ... That's plenty of front-court talent, a good backcourt with Holiday and Gordon (with Tyreke as a super-sub sixth man) and Aminu is no great shakes at the three spot, but passable.

I'm not sure that's a sure-fire winner, but it's a start.
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I've got to wonder if Gordon's going to make it through the summer though. He's been itching to get out of New Orleans since he was traded there.

I haven't really heard anything about how Gordon feels about the new roster acquisitions, but I think the team would probably be better off if they tried to get Danny Granger somehow. It just seems like Gordon never bought into the Hornets/Pelicans...

Has a major free agent ever left LA before? I can't remember anything like this ever happening in the past.
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Was Payton a free agent when he left for Miami?

I know at that stage in his career, he wasn't near Dwight's level, but that's just the biggest name I could think of offhandedly.
 
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Looks like Derek Fisher's going to try to play for the Thunder again next season (well, until they get off to a rough start, he uses his sick daughter as a pawn, and then joins the Rockets) -

The Oklahoma City Thunder and Derek Fisher have mutual interest in re-signing for Fisher to be the team's third-string point guard, according to a source.

Fisher has spent parts of the past two seasons with the Thunder.

Fisher averaged 8.7 points in the playoffs last season, playing significant minutes with Russell Westbrook injured.
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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228682/Thunder-Derek-Fisher-Mutually-Interested-In-Re-Signing
 
If New Orleans can flip Eric Gordon for Danny Granger I think that could be a pretty good move. You'd be pretty thin at shooting guard behind Tyreke (I think Evans' best role is probably as a super-sub sixth man versus a guy who has to blend in with other players), but at least you'd have some decent size across the board.
 
so far not one word on Andrew Bynum goin anywhere - I love it and hope it stays that way
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I dont think Indy would move granger for gordon
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Yeah, it really makes no sense for Indy. I was talking to some of the Pelicans TrueHoops guys when I was down in New Orleans and brought up a Gordon-Granger-Garnett/assets three way that would have made more sense, but now that KG is gone and West got resigned, there'd have to be some other third party in the mix. I still think Granger makes sense for New Orleans though.
 
Nikolokolus said:
If New Orleans can flip Eric Gordon for Danny Granger I think that could be a pretty good move. You'd be pretty thin at shooting guard behind Tyreke (I think Evans' best role is probably as a super-sub sixth man versus a guy who has to blend in with other players), but at least you'd have some decent size across the board.
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If Gordon is healthy, that's a great deal for Indiana, too. They went to 7 games in the ECF w/out Granger, and without a true offensive threat in their backcourt. Start Gordon, have Stephenson off the bench, and that team may be the favorite in the East. I hate Gordon's overall game, by the way, but for a team that can't score consistently like the Pacers, he'd be a great fit alongside Hill and George. With West and Hibbert, that's an NBA title contender, with Stephenson being a defensive presence as a 6th man, and Hansborough being a banger off of the bench.
 
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PapaG said:
If Gordon is healthy, that's a great deal for Indiana, too. They went to 7 games in the ECF w/out Granger, and without a true offensive threat in their backcourt. Start Gordon, have Stephenson off the bench, and that team may be the favorite in the East. I hate Gordon's overall game, by the way, but for a team that can't score consistently like the Pacers, he'd be a great fit alongside Hill and George. With West and Hibbert, that's an NBA title contender, with Stephenson being a defensive presence as a 6th man, and Hansborough being a banger off of the bench.
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Gordon would probably play up to his potential being back in his hometown, but don't you get the vibe that Indiana is trying to develop Paul George into more than just a "first option on a good team?"

Eric Gordon's a guy that needs 15-18 shots per game to be effective, and that would definitely cut into their plans with developing George.
 
Brandan Wright is another guy I have heard little to nothing about - solid back up

maybe we can sign the "Wright Brothers"? Brandan and Dorrrel
 
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