2018 Around the NBA - October

[Boob-No-More]

They were for real last year until Millsap got hurt for like 90% of the remaining season.

Not true at all.

DEN started last season 9-7 before Millsap got hurt. That's a 46-win pace, which is exactly how may games they won.

For the season, DEN was 22-16 in the games Millsap played. For the season that's a 47-win pace, one more game than they actually won. This myth that DEN was somehow much better last year when Millsap played is exactly that, a myth.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Haha gotta love power rankings ....

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25009643/nba-power-rankings-lakers-raptors-pelicans-moving-week-1

Teams going winless (LAL) to start the season still on the top ten. Teams losing going .500 and moving up (SAS).

I get that its the first week and that rankings are subjective but this is just gross.

SAS moving up two spots doesn't macth up with their comments:

"The Spurs certainly have felt the sting of losing point guard Dejounte Murray to a knee injury that will sideline him all season. Minnesota's Jeff Teague and Portland's Damian Lillard averaged 28 points on 63 percent shooting against San Antonio. Murray had established himself as an elite defender, as the Spurs allowed only 98 points per 100 possessions when he played last season. Their defensive rating is a sky-high 119.9 through two games. -- MacMahon"

So, they suck on defense with Murray out and he's going to be out all season, so let's move them up two spots. Sure, why not?

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

Not true at all.

DEN started last season 9-7 before Millsap got hurt. That's a 46-win pace, which is exactly how may games they won.

For the season, DEN was 22-16 in the games Millsap played. For the season that's a 47-win pace, one more game than they actually won. This myth that DEN was somehow much better last year when Millsap played is exactly that, a myth.

BNM

Here you go again just throwing out random numbers that look like they make sense, but really don’t and it just makes you look stupid! #WestBrook

 

[hoopsjock]

Not true at all.

DEN started last season 9-7 before Millsap got hurt. That's a 46-win pace, which is exactly how may games they won.

For the season, DEN was 22-16 in the games Millsap played. For the season that's a 47-win pace, one more game than they actually won. This myth that DEN was somehow much better last year when Millsap played is exactly that, a myth.

BNM

Damn BNM, why do you have to smash everyone's false beliefs?

 

[hoopsjock]

SAS moving up two spots doesn't macth up with their comments:

"The Spurs certainly have felt the sting of losing point guard Dejounte Murray to a knee injury that will sideline him all season. Minnesota's Jeff Teague and Portland's Damian Lillard averaged 28 points on 63 percent shooting against San Antonio. Murray had established himself as an elite defender, as the Spurs allowed only 98 points per 100 possessions when he played last season. Their defensive rating is a sky-high 119.9 through two games. -- MacMahon"

So, they suck on defense with Murray out and he's going to be out all season, so let's move them up two spots. Sure, why not?

BNM

Here you go again just throwing out random numbers that look like they make sense, but really don’t and it just makes you look stupid! #WestBrook

See what I mean? Now The HCP is all confused because he thought both Denver and Westbrook were good.

 

[Labinot41]

October. None of these games count. Half the players still think it's preseason...

I know, but it's still funny

 

[ripcityboy]

Damn. Our next three games are all winnable. I gotta look at that schedule closely.

 

[hoopsjock]

Can't figure out OKC at all. Their defense has gone into the tank. SAC ran circles around em yesterday.

OKC is one of those teams that nearly every wing held their man off the ball. Houston is another team that always got away with doing that. Now that the rules are being enforced a little more I think you are starting to see what players/teams are actually good at defense versus which teams were relying heavily on being able to be physical off the ball.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Haha gotta love power rankings ....

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25009643/nba-power-rankings-lakers-raptors-pelicans-moving-week-1

Teams going winless (LAL) to start the season still on the top ten. Teams losing going .500 and moving up (SAS).

I get that its the first week and that rankings are subjective but this is just gross.

Is anyone surprised that these two teams are winless:



I said it all summer, that surrounding LeBron with non-shooters was a terrible idea. Rob and Magic seemed bound and determined to justify all their 2nd and 3rd tier free agent signings by saying they cared more about guys who hustle and play with intensity over guys who can shoot. Yeah, that's going to work in today's high scoring 3-point happy NBA.

"What Johnson pitched to James was a team stocked with tough-minded playmakers like Stephenson and Rondo who could free up James to finish in the lanes and from the post, rather than having to create the lion's share of the offense himself. "

How is LeBron going to be "free" to finish in the lanes and from the post when guys like Rondo, Stephenson and Ball can't create space. Teams can just back off them, dare them to shoot and pack the paint. They aren't making LeBron's life easier, they are making it harder. And since when is having the best player on the planet creating the lion's share of your offense a bad thing? Isn't that the reason you sign a guy like LeBron in the first place? In MIA, Dwyane Wade took a backseat to LeBron, because it made the team better. How is taking the ball out of LeBron's hands and giving it to Rajon Rondo, Lance Stephenson or Lonzo Ball a good thing?

On the other hand, thanks Magic. Keep up the good work. It takes a special kind of idiot to turn LeBron James into a loser.



Actually, with, or without Westbrick, they are the exact same team in one very important way. They are a team full of guards who can't shoot from deep.

BNM

 

[hoopsjock]

Damn. Our next three games are all winnable. I gotta look at that schedule closely.

I cringe every time I read a post about how many games in a row we can win. Can we just focus on taking care of business tonight?

 

[ripcityboy]

I cringe every time I read a post about how many games in a row we can win. Can we just focus on taking care of business tonight?

And you are, who, exactly?

 

[hoopsjock]

Is anyone surprised that these two teams are winless:

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I said it all summer, that surrounding LeBron with non-shooters was a terrible idea. Rob and Magic seemed bound and determined to justify all their 2nd and 3rd tier free agent signings by saying they cared more about guys who hustle and play with intensity over guys who can shoot. Yeah, that's going to work in today's high scoring 3-point happy NBA.

"What Johnson pitched to James was a team stocked with tough-minded playmakers like Stephenson and Rondo who could free up James to finish in the lanes and from the post, rather than having to create the lion's share of the offense himself. "

How is LeBron going to be "free" to finish in the lanes and from the post when guys like Rondo, Stephenson and Ball can't create space. Teams can just back off them, dare them to shoot and pack the paint. They aren't making LeBron's life easier, they are making it harder. And since when is having the best player on the planet creating the lion's share of your offense a bad thing? Isn't that the reason you sign a guy like LeBron in the first place? In MIA, Dwyane Wade took a backseat to LeBron, because it made the team better. How is taking the ball out of LeBron's hands and giving it to Rajon Rondo, Lance Stephenson or Lonzo Ball a good thing?

On the other hand, thanks Magic. Keep up the good work. It takes a special kind of idiot to turn LeBron James into a loser.

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Actually, with, or without Westbrick, they are the exact same team in one very important way. They are a team full of guards who can't shoot from deep.

BNM

What puzzled me about those that thought OKC was going to be really good this year (i.e. lock to make the playoffs, 3rd seed, etc.) was that they didn't do anything in the off season to improve what hurt them last year. It's like people didn't know that Paul George played there last year and thought his re-signing meant that the team got better. You can argue their defense will improve when Roberson comes back but he is basically the worst shooting wing in the league which will only add to their struggles from 3.

 

[hoopsjock]

And you are, who, exactly?

I'm a nobody! I'm just not a fan of looking past any teams, especially when you consider how important a good start could be and the early season struggles of the last 3 seasons.

 

[ripcityboy]

I'm a nobody! I'm just not a fan of looking past any teams, especially when you consider how important a good start could be and the early season struggles of the last 3 seasons.

Point taken, bro. But don't worry. It's only three games. Not the first month and a half.

 

[LayneStaley]

Who knew Andre Roberson was the Thunder's MVP?

I did, I believe I even posted about it in last years trade thread

 

[Boob-No-More]

What puzzled me about those that thought OKC was going to be really good this year (i.e. lock to make the playoffs, 3rd seed, etc.) was that they didn't do anything in the off season to improve what hurt them last year. It's like people didn't know that Paul George played there last year and thought his re-signing meant that the team got better. You can argue their defense will improve when Roberson comes back but he is basically the worst shooting wing in the league which will only add to their struggles from 3.

Schroeder to OKC and Melo to HOU made both teams worse. Schroeder is just Westbrook light. He's not nearly as good, but has all of the exact same weaknesses. OKC trying to play them together is hilarious.

HOU gave up way to much to make room for Melo. They killed their defense by losing Ariza and Mbah a Moute and they also lost their best 3-point shooter, in a offense that relies on 3-point shooting, in Ryan Anderson.

All for a ball stopping bench player who wanted to play with his buddies. Morey must have had some kind of hand shade agreement with CP3 that he'd get Melo, because from a basketball standpoint, none of those moves made any sense. I know Anderson's contract is horrible, but at this point in their careers, he's actually a better player than Melo and a MUCH better fit for what HOU needs. You could say the same thing about Ariza.

BNM

 

[Blazers Roy]

Is anyone surprised that these two teams are winless:

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I said it all summer, that surrounding LeBron with non-shooters was a terrible idea. Rob and Magic seemed bound and determined to justify all their 2nd and 3rd tier free agent signings by saying they cared more about guys who hustle and play with intensity over guys who can shoot. Yeah, that's going to work in today's high scoring 3-point happy NBA.

"What Johnson pitched to James was a team stocked with tough-minded playmakers like Stephenson and Rondo who could free up James to finish in the lanes and from the post, rather than having to create the lion's share of the offense himself. "

How is LeBron going to be "free" to finish in the lanes and from the post when guys like Rondo, Stephenson and Ball can't create space. Teams can just back off them, dare them to shoot and pack the paint. They aren't making LeBron's life easier, they are making it harder. And since when is having the best player on the planet creating the lion's share of your offense a bad thing? Isn't that the reason you sign a guy like LeBron in the first place? In MIA, Dwyane Wade took a backseat to LeBron, because it made the team better. How is taking the ball out of LeBron's hands and giving it to Rajon Rondo, Lance Stephenson or Lonzo Ball a good thing?

On the other hand, thanks Magic. Keep up the good work. It takes a special kind of idiot to turn LeBron James into a loser.

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Actually, with, or without Westbrick, they are the exact same team in one very important way. They are a team full of guards who can't shoot from deep.

BNM

Do you think they should've traded for Kawai?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Do you think they should've traded for Kawai?

He'd be way better than any of the scrubs they signed, but didn't he take LAL off his "list" because he didn't want to play in LeBron's shadow?

BNM

 

[hoopsjock]

Do you think they should've traded for Kawai?

He'd be way better than any of the scrubs they signed, but didn't he take LAL off his "list" because he didn't want to play in LeBron's shadow?

BNM

It's hard to tell what are rumors and what would've happened if the Lakers made serious offers. It seems to me like the Lakers once again think so highly of themselves that they didn't want to give up anything to get Kawhi. After that strategy not working with Paul George you'd think they'd learn their lesson.

 

[Eastoff]

October. None of these games count. Half the players still think it's preseason...

Well the blazers need* to get the free wins now!!

 

[Hoopguru]

I cringe every time I read a post about how many games in a row we can win. Can we just focus on taking care of business tonight?

Damn. Our next three games are all winnable. I gotta look at that schedule closely.

rcb...if your avatar is who I think its is, I saw his fingers bleeding at the MC in 1971.

 

[ripcityboy]

rcb...if your avatar is who I think its is, I saw his fingers bleeding at the MC in 1971.

Rory Gallagher? That wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. He played so hard he wore the paint off his guitar and his amplifiers caught fire. What concert was it specifically? I could probably look it up online. I have quite a few of his bootlegs from that time period. He's my all time favorite music artist.

 

[illmatic99]

4 games for Ingram and 3 for Rondo. Is this a joke?

Thats it?

 

[Hoopguru]

Rory Gallagher? That wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. He played so hard he wore the paint off his guitar and his amplifiers caught fire. What concert was it specifically? I could probably look it up online. I have quite a few of his bootlegs from that time period. He's my all time favorite music artist.

sorry man wrong artis! I thought it he look like a very young J. Page because he had long hair like that early on. Zeppelin one of the best concert Ive seen and I've seen a bunch.

 

[Labinot41]

 

[ripcityboy]

sorry man wrong artis! I thought it he look like a very young J. Page because he had long hair like that early on. Zeppelin one of the best concert Ive seen and I've seen a bunch.

No prob. They were actually friends.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I lived in LA in the 90s when the Clippers were historically awful and they were my second-fave team, because they were the ultimate underdogs, and when Pooh Richardson is your best player, every win is more precious than gold. I've kind of hated them in the "Lob City" era, but it's okay to like them again now! It's not just because of Boban, they could genuinely be good, and they're crazy deep. I want a Gilgeous-Alexander shirt just because of the way the name looks:

 

[hoopsjock]

I lived in LA in the 90s when the Clippers were historically awful and they were my second-fave team, because they were the ultimate underdogs, and when Pooh Richardson is your best player, every win is more precious than gold. I've kind of hated them in the "Lob City" era, but it's okay to like them again now! It's not just because of Boban, they could genuinely be good, and they're crazy deep. I want a Gilgeous-Alexander shirt just because of the way the name looks:

Nope, they still have "Glenn" Rivers and Patrick Beverley. The rest of the team is fine though.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I lived in LA in the 90s when the Clippers were historically awful and they were my second-fave team, because they were the ultimate underdogs, and when Pooh Richardson is your best player, every win is more precious than gold. I've kind of hated them in the "Lob City" era, but it's okay to like them again now! It's not just because of Boban, they could genuinely be good, and they're crazy deep. I want a Gilgeous-Alexander shirt just because of the way the name looks:

I think Doc Rivers probably enjoys coaching star-less teams like this - it might remind him of that first Orlando team that was supposed to be the worst team in the league (its "star" was probably Darrell Armstrong) but that he coached to the playoffs.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Nope, they still have "Glenn" Rivers and Patrick Beverley. The rest of the team is fine though.

I liked Doc when he was a Clipper in the 90s! He was always one of the good guys as a player.