Event 2018 NBA Draft

[Sarni]

Looking at the cap space, Kings should either throw a max to Capela or absorb 2 terrible deals for picks. Like get Mahinmi and pick from Washington or take Deng and pick from LA. Even get crap like Bayless for a pick. Just stock up on young players and have tonnes of money in 2020 when all the dross from 2016 walk away.

 

[Sarni]

If 24+26=13 that's a pretty shitty trade value chart.

Yeah nobody is giving that up.

 

[Scalma]

Yeah nobody is giving that up.

From strictly a basketball standpoint, probably not. But you also have to factor in that a player selected at #13 will make nearly as much as players selected at #24 and #26 combined. At 13 we’re not generally talking about a blue chip prospect. The 2017 class wasn’t the norm.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So Memphis could get a future all-star and possible franchise player and they're gonna trade him for a borderline (If that) all-star in their prime making 6 times as much money?

Not gonna happen.

What if they also got rid of Parsons in the deal? Parsons/4 for CJ?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I'm targeting that #8 pick!

What tall white guy is at 8?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

What tall white guy is at 8?

Good point--we can still get Mo Wagner at 24--no need to trade up.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Good point--we can still get Mo Wagner at 24--no need to trade up.

Exactly. Although Neil does like to overpay for WABC

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Exactly. Although Neil does like to overpay for WABC

Don't see any of those, though. Wagner's a German. All the ABC's in the mocks are melanin-rich. Isaac Haas won't even get drafted.

 

[TBpup]

Why aren't the Blazers in the Lottery? They didn't win any games in the Playoffs so were they really in? And if they weren't in, they should be in the Lottery. Sigh....picking at #24 for a 0-win Playoff team. That stinks.

 

[illmatic99]

If 24+26=13 that's a pretty shitty trade value chart.

The chart isn't end all be all for every draft class. Last year, 15 + 20 only brought us to 10. And we were left with 10 and 26. Too bad the guy who went 27th was worth more than all three picks combined.

How do we get this year's Kuzma? Is Hutchison that guy? I'm only now getting into the draft stuff, but KBD seems intriguing.

 

[illmatic99]

Mikal Bridges has a 7'2 wingspan.

And he shot 44% from 3 on nearly 240 attempts.

This should be our target. Might need to get into top 10 unfortunately, but we need to exhaust all our options to do so.

 

[Sarni]

Mikal Bridges has a 7'2 wingspan.

And he shot 44% from 3 on nearly 240 attempts.

This should be our target. Might need to get into top 10 unfortunately, but we need to exhaust all our options to do so.

If he falls to 10th then Philadelphia are 100% taking him, he is the player they need. So yes, we would need to get into top 10. It’s hard to predict which order Young, Carter, Sexton and Bridges will go in because I am fairly convinced all of Ayton, Doncic, Jackson Jr, Bagley, Porter and Bamba are going in the top 6-7 (only one from those mentioned before who has the potential to go above any of them is Trae Young because Orlando) to complete the top 10.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Mikal Bridges has a 7'2 wingspan.

And he shot 44% from 3 on nearly 240 attempts.

This should be our target. Might need to get into top 10 unfortunately, but we need to exhaust all our options to do so.

Try to save the Knicks some money, open up some cap space for them? Offer up Moe/Biggie for Noah, Aminu for Thomas, TPE for Lee, all to get them to give us the 9?

 

[illmatic99]

Try to save the Knicks some money, open up some cap space for them? Offer up Moe/Biggie for Noah, Aminu for Thomas, TPE for Lee, all to get them to give us the 9?

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This is the kind of deal we should be after, but don't think Knicks are the right target. I'm looking more at 8 (depending on what LBJ decides to do) and 10 (in case Philly wants to expedite their development-- seems like a Colangelo thing to do). 12/13 from LAC are other targets but will probably be too low for either Bridges. Keep an eye on PHX as well and their 4 picks-- maybe they'd want to use one to rid themselves of TJ Warren.

Knicks have KP out for pretty much this whole year and have openly admitted that they're going full on in this youth movement. They will most likely draft another project this year and get a lotto pick for next summer along with max capspace in 2019.

 

[illmatic99]

Why aren't the Blazers in the Lottery? They didn't win any games in the Playoffs so were they really in? And if they weren't in, they should be in the Lottery. Sigh....picking at #24 for a 0-win Playoff team. That stinks.

Denver winning only 3 fewer regular season games but picking 10 spots ahead of us stings a bit.

 

[CupWizier]

59a

Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that Neil needs to use that Crabbe exception to take on a shit salary in exchange for a first, and then package it to move up. That is a much more intriguing scenario than trading for a minimal bench upgrade. Like I mentioned before 24 + 26 = 13 according to the trade value chart by Pelton. Clippers have back to back picks and will probably be looking to be players in free agency. Their picks will be in play. At 13 we can land a good player, or try to package it and move up even further. I’d give up Harkless and a future first to secure a prospect like Porter.

Last year we traded 15 and 20 for #10 so I don't see how #24 and #26 would come close to moving up only 3 spots less than last years deal in a draft that's allegedly not as deep.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

59a


Last year we traded 15 and 20 for #10 so I don't see how #24 and #26 would come close to moving up only 3 spots less than last years deal in a draft that's allegedly not as deep.

According to Pelton's chart, 15 & 20 are equal to 6.

His chart appears to be deeply flawed.

 

[tester551]

According to Pelton's chart, 15 & 20 are equal to 6.

His chart appears to be deeply flawed.

Or Portland overpaid.... which is more likely

 

[hoopsjock]

Khyri will go in the top 18 guaranteed. Her won't fall.

That wasn't the question.

 

[hoopsjock]

Mikal Bridges has a 7'2 wingspan.

And he shot 44% from 3 on nearly 240 attempts.

This should be our target. Might need to get into top 10 unfortunately, but we need to exhaust all our options to do so.

Welcome to this thread finally, ha ha. We've been trying to figure out a way to get Bridges for over a month.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Or Portland overpaid.... which is more likely

You honestly think two non-lottery picks are generally considered equal in value to a 6? We'll have to disagree on that one.

 

[hoopsjock]

What if they also got rid of Parsons in the deal? Parsons/4 for CJ?

That would be one of the most ironic trades ever!

Even if we do that trade what do we do when no team above us will trade down? Last year it cost the 76ers #3 and the Kings 2019 pick (only protected #1) to move up. If Doncic is the target (his idea) it looks like it will have to be 1 or 2 we'll need.

 

[CupWizier]

Try to save the Knicks some money, open up some cap space for them? Offer up Moe/Biggie for Noah, Aminu for Thomas, TPE for Lee, all to get them to give us the 9?

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That's a huge cost just to get the #9 pick. Bridges seems like an intriguing talent, but we'd be taking on about 20mil more salary plus the luxury tax so the deal would cost 45mil give or take We could get Henderson much cheaper than Lee and Thomas and Noah don't do anything to help the team other than cost a lot of money in luxury tax.

 

[CupWizier]

According to Pelton's chart, 15 & 20 are equal to 6.

His chart appears to be deeply flawed.

Yeah, I looked at that chart and it didn't make much sense. It's almost as bad as the trade machine where you just plug in equal salaries and you can come up with Durant or LeBron. I wish it was just that easy.

 

[Scalma]

59a


Last year we traded 15 and 20 for #10 so I don't see how #24 and #26 would come close to moving up only 3 spots less than last years deal in a draft that's allegedly not as deep.

You answered your own question lol.

 

[Scalma]

Or Portland overpaid.... which is more likely

It was a historically deep draft class. I wouldn’t use it as an example.

 

[CupWizier]

You answered your own question lol.

Hmmm, not sure how I did as I don't recall asking a question, lol. What was my question and what was my answer?

 

[illmatic99]

In 06, we traded Khryapa and #4 (Tyrus Thomas) for #2 (Aldridge).

We also traded #7 (Foye) + cash for #6 (Roy).

We also bought the 27th pick (Sergio) for cash.

Boy those were simpler days.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That's a huge cost just to get the #9 pick. Bridges seems like an intriguing talent, but we'd be taking on about 20mil more salary plus the luxury tax so the deal would cost 45mil give or take We could get Henderson much cheaper than Lee and Thomas and Noah don't do anything to help the team other than cost a lot of money in luxury tax.

Obviously they wouldn't help the team--that would be why NY might consider giving up the 9 to get rid of them. I'm not saying that Paul would enjoy the extensive cost, or even that it's worth it--just theorizing what it might take.

Would certainly prefer some of @hoopsjock's or @BonesJones' propositions for Philly's #10.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That would be one of the most ironic trades ever!

Even if we do that trade what do we do when no team above us will trade down? Last year it cost the 76ers #3 and the Kings 2019 pick (only protected #1) to move up. If Doncic is the target (his idea) it looks like it will have to be 1 or 2 we'll need.

Possibly. Then again, Bagley and Jackson could conceivably impress significantly in the next couple months and move up the boards.

Imagine that both the deals I proposed this morning happened, and we ended up with Doncic at 4 and Mikal at 9. Definitely take a step back for a couple years, but once the youngsters develop and the bloated contracts fall off, look out! Never happen, I know, but I'd definitely be intrigued by the potential of that squad.

Dame/Doncic
Lee/Bridges
Thomas/Parsons
Collins/Leonard
Nurkic/Noah