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Scalma said:
Don't worry, I'll be here when Turner is in the closing lineup while Harkless sits on the bench and then you can tell me how much I don't know about basketball.
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I can tell you now.

Not enough to correct anyone
 
Scalma said:
The whole argument started with the idea that Harkless spaces the court better than Turner, but the reality is that he really doesn't. Defenders don't sag off of Turner anymore than they do Harkless, but Turner can at least create for himself, and others. And I didn't even get to defense, where Turner is more consistent. I have yet to hear one legitimate argument as to how Harkless is a better fit with Dame/CJ/Nurk than Turner. At the end of the games that's what matters. Who starts or doesn't start really doesn't matter at that point. The best players finish games.
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Doesn't matter because Harkless will be a Knicks at some point this season.
 
Boob-No-More said:
This has the hallmarks of the typical Olshey move to pick up a player who is undervalued because they weren't a good fit/properly utilized in their previous system.

After 8 years as one of the best 3-point shooters in league history, Anthony Morrow has one down year playing in an offense that is not conducive to good 3-point shooting, and suddenly he is available for the price of a 1-year minimum non-guaranteed contract.

I posted it in another thread, but I think it bears repeating here:

Only Stephen Curry, Kyle Korver and Klay Thompson have matched Morrow’s career efficiency (41.7%) and volume (8.0 attempts per 100 possessions) while playing even half as many minutes as Morrow.

In the right system, Morrow is a lights out 3-point shooter. He has shot .423 or better 3FG% five times. Among active players, only Kyle Korver and Steph Curry have more seasons with 3FG% ≥ .420 than Anthony Morrow.

For a rhythm shooter like Morrow, I believe Stotts' system is the right type of system to maximize his effectiveness.

BNM
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With respect, I'm not sure that I buy this hype. If he was so good, he would be a franchise player on a team. Instead, he's been on something like 7 teams in 9 years, and he's never even sniffed an All-Star vote.

But I am optimistic that he can work well in Stott's offense. I just hope these stats reflect the play.

 
Regarding the SF position, I don't think any of them are complete players so it's going to come down to the matchups. Against teams that are more aggressive applying pressure, especially late in games, then you will want ET in there with Dame and CJ. I can also see times when having Harkless in there will be more beneficial. So I guess it really doesn't matter who starts, adjustments in the 4th will be made. Of course who is having the better game will be a factor as well.

The PF position will be similar since at this time there is no clear favorite. The constant will be Dame, CJ, and Nurk.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Regarding the SF position, I don't think any of them are complete players so it's going to come down to the matchups. Against teams that are more aggressive applying pressure, especially late in games, then you will want ET in there with Dame and CJ. I can also see times when having Harkless in there will be more beneficial. So I guess it really doesn't matter who starts, adjustments in the 4th will be made. Of course who is having the better game will be a factor as well.

The PF position will be similar since at this time there is no clear favorite. The constant will be Dame, CJ, and Nurk.
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This is assuming that Stotts can make adjustments. He doesn't have a great history of that.
 
Turner > Harkless.
But I still start Harkless next to CJ & Lillard.
I truly hope Stotts benches Harkless like he did late last season when Harkless had mental lapses. He doesn't bring enough to the table to allow that.
 
I'd start Turner, I think he's better suited to the starting lineup and better fit with the other players. But I also like Harkless as a substitute
 
I also like Harkless even better as a small ball 4. I wish we'd have a little more playing time available in the front court
 
Harkless is a great slasher who can dominate in the paint with the right plays and players. Nurk had some good assists last season with Harkless, and they made some great plays.
 
I didn't see it being discussed anywhere above, but do you guys think Stotts will do the same staggering of minutes with Dame and CJ? In regards to CJ leaving pretty early in the 1st quarter, that seemed like it was one of the few constant things about the rotation last year.
 
Shaboid said:
I didn't see it being discussed anywhere above, but do you guys think Stotts will do the same staggering of minutes with Dame and CJ? In regards to CJ leaving pretty early in the 1st quarter, that seemed like it was one of the few constant things about the rotation last year.
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I see a chance for a player to step up now that Crabbe is gone. Pat Con will get a chance and i assume Turner will as well. Napier has shown he can run the offense so there will be opportunity for some.
 
kjironman1 said:
I see a chance for a player to step up now that Crabbe is gone. Pat Con will get a chance and i assume Turner will as well. Napier has shown he can run the offense so there will be opportunity for some.
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It may depend on how much Nurk shores up our defense, too. If we can play Dame and CJ 30+ minutes together, they won't be able to guard us.
 
Do you have the date sewn on your shirt so you know what clothes to wear and when? That's strange.
 
Nice for Nurk to loan Ed Davis one of the basketballs he's been using in practice...
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Jade Falcon said:
With respect, I'm not sure that I buy this hype. If he was so good, he would be a franchise player on a team. Instead, he's been on something like 7 teams in 9 years, and he's never even sniffed an All-Star vote.

But I am optimistic that he can work well in Stott's offense. I just hope these stats reflect the play.

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This is a nonsensical post. He's never been billed as a franchise player. That's why he's 31 and on a training camp contract. He is a shooter nothing more.
 
Scalma said:
I'm going to take a guess and say he didn't make that
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Safe bet. I dig the Nurk mask, too.

I really wish they would have let Lebron wear that black carbon-fiber mask he wore a few years back. Nurk would look sick in something like that.

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Harkless is better started then coming off the bench. But that why you have training camp to sort it all out.
 
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