Exclusive Official 2018 Trade Deadline Thread

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And to top it off I bet PG stays in OKC. I bet he would of stayed here after a season of playing with Dame/CJ too.
 
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yuyuza1 said:
but we had to give away Noah's 3.5 mil contract just to get under the tax.

Let that sink in.
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Not "give" - we had to PAY to have Noah's contract hauled away. We PAID to get rid of Crabbe, and we PAID to get rid of Noah. Noah, who we traded Nic for. Nic who, had we kept him, would have kept us from making the biggest mistake of them all - signing Turner.

Let THAT sink in.
 
Scalma said:
Payton is shooting over 50% and 37% from outside. Is it a fluke? Maybe, but he’s been consistent every month.
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He also shot decently from three in 15-16. Only to regress to MCW levels the following year.
Both players fill the box score.
Both players are decent defenders.

Neither can be relied apon as a #1, or even #2 option offensively, and frankly it's a real question if they could be relied apon as a #3 option.
Seem pretty similar to me.

BonesJones said:
Lol he's not at all.
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Last time MCP was starting he put up 11/5/5 with 1.5 steals
EP this year is averaging 13/4/6 with 1.5 steals.

Pretty similar numbers. Even their a/t ratio is similar.

I'd be pretty shocked if EP's career path doesn't take a similar road as MCW's.
 
Sarni said:
Orlando are so bad at making trades. Second round pick lol.
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Orlando's trades look suspiciously like internet fans are at the helm. "Look, Real GM accepted that one! Wait, did it just go through?"
 
blue9 said:
Not "give" - we had to PAY to have Noah's contract hauled away. We PAID to get rid of Crabbe, and we PAID to get rid of Noah. Noah, who we traded Nic for. Nic who, had we kept him, would have kept us from making the biggest mistake of them all - signing Turner.

Let THAT sink in.
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Basically we trade Batum who was doing nothing and now have Turner who does nothing
 
Sarni said:
Orlando are so bad at making trades. Second round pick lol.
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Yeah, they just won't make with the Blazers anymore...not that I want Elfrid
 
Jon said:
The whole trade deadline for us was just to save paul allen money. Dumb.
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And that is why the Blazes will never when another championship
 
blue9 said:
Not "give" - we had to PAY to have Noah's contract hauled away. We PAID to get rid of Crabbe, and we PAID to get rid of Noah. Noah, who we traded Nic for. Nic who, had we kept him, would have kept us from making the biggest mistake of them all - signing Turner.

Let THAT sink in.
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You do realize the cost of shedding contracts in this NBA climate right now is picks...you guys are complaining about one of the richest owners in SPORTS using his cash to get out of bad contracts.

Is this the deadline we wanted? No. But very few people here are realistic. This isn't 2K, there have to be two parties that want to make a trade. I think the Blazers have a solid chance of landing Kevin Love this offseason regardless of if LeBron leaves. If this moves keeps us away from the repeater tax and would allow us to afford being in the LT if we possibly get Love to pair with CJ/Dame and maybe even Nurk depending on what it takes to get Love then it's a solid move.
 
I knew we would do nothing, I blame espn for inventing the trade machine and turning everyone into a backseat gm.
 
LayneStaley said:
I knew we would do nothing, I blame espn for inventing the trade machine and turning everyone into a backseat gm.
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Trade machine? There will always be the wanna be GM's regardless if a trade machine is available or not.
 
CupWizier said:
Trade machine? There will always be the wanna be GM's regardless if a trade machine is available or not.
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Cup, I agree getting under cap is a win. Continuity is important and teams that make huge changes mid stream seem to struggle for rest of season. I see us having more room for trades during the off season.
 
BonesJones said:
What's worse is we had to give up cash just to get rid of Vonleh. Lmao.
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Nobody cares about the cash.

My prediction all along was that the Blazers would make a trade for the primary purpose of avoiding future repeater tax. Any other benefit would be secondary or good fortune.
 
CupWizier said:
actually getting under the luxury tax does much more than just saving the team money. Educate yourself on how the NBA works.
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Aside from the tax itself and the eventual repeater penalties, the other effects of the tax come from being above the apron, not the tax line itself. Since the Blazers were only 2.8M over the tax line, they were well under the apron, so dealing Vonleh to get under the tax line didn't in fact do anything for the Blazers except save them money.
 
LayneStaley said:
I knew we would do nothing, I blame espn for inventing the trade machine and turning everyone into a backseat gm.
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The trade machine has been around a lot longer than that. Where do you think RealGM got its start?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Aside from the tax itself and the eventual repeater penalties, the other effects of the tax come from being above the apron, not the tax line itself. Since the Blazers were only 2.8M over the tax line, they were well under the apron, so dealing Vonleh to get under the tax line didn't in fact do anything for the Blazers except save them money.
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So we will have the non tax MLE to offer? Don’t have to clear any more salary?
 
Scalma said:
So we will have the non tax MLE to offer? Don’t have to clear any more salary?
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You talking about now or in July?

Right now, they could offer as much as 6.5M, which is less than the 8.4M non-tax MLE, but more than than the 5.2M taxpayer MLE.

In July, if they want to keep Nurkic, they'll need to not offer any more than the taxpayer MLE, because use of more than that would cap them out at the apron (projected to be around $129M). The 9 salaries on the books for next year, plus the dead money, plus the charge for their first round pick, plus whatever non-tax MLE is given to whomever, would leave less than $10M to resign Nurkic, and that won't be enough.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
You talking about now or in July?

Right now, they could offer as much as 6.5M, which is less than the 8.4M non-tax MLE, but more than than the 5.2M taxpayer MLE.

In July, if they want to keep Nurkic, they'll need to not offer any more than the taxpayer MLE, because use of more than that would cap them out at the apron (projected to be around $129M). The 9 salaries on the books for next year, plus the dead money, plus the charge for their first round pick, plus whatever non-tax MLE is given to whomever, would leave less than $10M to resign Nurkic, and that won't be enough.
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Ok so pretty much if they wanted to use the full MLE and keep their FAs, they'd still have to shed some salary before free agency, correct? And how much would they have to clear? I'm an idiot.
 
Scalma said:
Ok so pretty much if they wanted to use the full MLE and keep their FAs, they'd still have to shed some salary before free agency, correct? And how much would they have to clear? I'm an idiot.
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Once you use the non-taxpayer MLE, you're hard capped at the apron (~$129M). So how much the Blazers need to shed depends on how much you think they'll need to retain Nurkic (and any other free agents you'd want to keep, like Napier or whomever).
 
Minstrel said:
Once you use the non-taxpayer MLE, you're hard capped at the apron (~$129M). So how much the Blazers need to shed depends on how much you think they'll need to retain Nurkic (and any other free agents you'd want to keep, like Napier or whomever).
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Would Layman’s contract affect any of this? I don’t believe it’s guaranteed.
 
Scalma said:
Would Layman’s contract affect any of this? I don’t believe it’s guaranteed.
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Any dollars they keep on their player payroll affects it. If they dropped his salary, that's more that they could use towards the apron but Layman's salary is peanuts, relatively ($600k or so).
 
Scalma said:
Would Layman’s contract affect any of this? I don’t believe it’s guaranteed.
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You're correct--but it would only open up about $1M in space which really wouldn't make a ton of difference if we lose our ability to match all RFA's, which would be the biggest drawback in our current situation to using the non-tax MLE.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
You're correct--but it would only open up about $1M in space which really wouldn't make a ton of difference if we lose our ability to match all RFA's, which would be the biggest drawback in our current situation to using the non-tax MLE.
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Maybe there’s a scenario where we re-sign our pending RFAs before FA?

I really don’t think there’s gonna be a huge market for unrestricted guys, nevermind for RFAs.
 
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