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I think when NeO goes to call another GM the other team's GM is like -- "oh god it's NeO to give a low ball offer on our best player like Myers and a future 2nd for ( insert player here )

and then answers it and goes -- " Hey Neil -- were not interesting in Myers but anything else " ....... Long pause and .... then Neil says -- "Sorry i dialed wrong number have a nice day "
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
I think when NeO goes to call another GM the other team's GM is like -- "oh god it's NeO to give a low ball offer on our best player like Myers and a future 2nd for ( insert player here )

and then answers it and goes -- " Hey Neil -- were not interesting in Myers but anything else " ....... Long pause and .... then Neil says -- "Sorry i dialed wrong number have a nice day "
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From what I've been told from contacts with other teams, you are not too far off. Neil tends to way over value his players, tries to get other players for ridiculously cheap, and then says "it takes 2 teams to make a deal" when nothing works out.
 
Hoopguru said:
Even Toronto traded their best Player/fan fav for a shot at Leonard. Would you have done the same with our fav Dame for a spin the wheel move for Leonard or even Davis now?
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that's loopy....in what world is Derozan on the same level as Dame?

Toronto traded their CJ and their Zach for Kawhi; meanwhile, according to several reports, Portland is holding their CJ and their Zach untouchable in trade talks at a time AD is available

Wizard Mentor said:
He hasn't been doing nothing, he's been doing incremental advantage, which can be frustrating.
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right, and after 6 fucking years of his "incremental advantage" process, Portland got swept in the 1st round
 
riverman said:
Just read the Knicks are considering buying out Kanter….now that is a guy I could see Neil picking up off the scrap heap
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Yes, he was demoted a couple of weeks ago. Vonleh helped make him expendable.

BoomChakaLaka said:
Another trade of interest to me:

CJ and Collins to NY Knicks

Knox, Kantor and unprotected #1 (we help them make room for KD and add CJ and young prospect in Collins

We pick up a young SF, back up big that’s expiring and a chance at picking Zion!

We won’t make a deep run this year, but it’s a decent reload for next year
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wizenheimer said:
that's loopy....in what world is Derozan on the same level as Dame?

Toronto traded their CJ and their Zach for Kawhi; meanwhile, according to several reports, Portland is holding their CJ and their Zach untouchable in trade talks at a time AD is available

right, and after 6 fucking years of his "incremental advantage" process, Portland got swept in the 1st round
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I don't think he was saying Dame and DeRozan were on the same level....just that DeRozan was 'their' Dame.
 
wizenheimer said:
that's loopy....in what world is Derozan on the same level as Dame?

Toronto traded their CJ and their Zach for Kawhi; meanwhile, according to several reports, Portland is holding their CJ and their Zach untouchable in trade talks at a time AD is available



right, and after 6 fucking years of his "incremental advantage" process, Portland got swept in the 1st round
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Do you have a link where Blazer brass has made that comment? :bgrin:

asking for a friend.
 
oldmangrouch said:
The people who don't want Mirotic because of his defense would have their heads explode over Kantor.
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Huge difference giving up Harkless and a 1st for someone versus getting someone to sign for the minimum after being bought out.
 
BrianFromWA said:
It's ok for me to say it b/c it's not like I'm going to jinx it...and since Magic's running the L*kers it'll never happen.but...

I've already expressed my feelings about LeBron and especially "Old LeBron". My trade deadline would be complete if Magic was like "this dude wants me to trade everything I've built up for years, including a promising head coach, so he can hook his buddy up and show that his agent has all the power in today's NBA. Eff him...'Hey Portland? Meyers and some 2nds gets you LBJ'."
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FTFY.

barfo
 
I find the idea that we could get Davis for CJ and Zach very far fetched.

CJ, Nurkic, Zach and three unprotected picks would maybe get us him but even that won’t be enough to cut the deal NOW.
 
Harkless and a first for Mirotic is a no brainer, it really is.
 
Could some of you guys who are more clever than me (and not so lazy) start writing up what you think Olshey will say (after another disappointing trade deadline)? Sly could give some kind of prize to ever comes closest to actually Olshey.
 
TBpup said:
I don't think he was saying Dame and DeRozan were on the same level....just that DeRozan was 'their' Dame.
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that still doesn't make sense though. That's like saying CJ is Portland's Stephen Curry
 
wizenheimer said:
I don't even have to know what the 'stats' are on trades between those two GM's to know that's a dumb take...sorry

What Whitsitt knew is that you can't change the trajectory of a team by fucking around with the back end of the rotation. Dinking with the 8th or 10th or 12th players on the depth chart isn't going to add any playoff wins. Whitsitt worked the top part of the rotation and was always searching for elite talent while knowing the price was going to be significant. He didn't get irrationally attached to average players, and he wasn't stupid enough to believe that sifting thru dumpsters was going to make any difference

but these 'back-end-low-level-bargain-basement-dumpster-diving-pray-for-nuggets' trades are Olshey's only comfort zone when dealing with other GM's. He seems to be a chickenshit about entering into any discussions when he has to actually deal in a true give-to-get ratio. It's just so much easier for him to create an untouchable list and that way, not take any risks. And, the one asset he had for most of those discount trades was cap-space, which he pissed away in 2016.

Olshey had been on the job for 6 fucking years last April...6 years. And in that time what he had built was a team that got swept in the playoffs. And there were still people excusing him for a variety of half-assed reasons. It's 8 months later and the excuses keep coming. "If you liked Olshey's 6th year team, you'll really love his 10th year team...be fucking patient and shut your mouth"

Whitsitt wasn't perfect; he didn't pay attention to fit or chemistry. And just like Olshey, he had some favorite players, like Detlef Schrempf. But he was able to get high end talent and didn't confuse average talent for high end talent just because he drafted it. I wouldn't want Whitsitt or a Whitsitt-clone back, but I sure wish Portland had a GM that would spend more time taking the risks of going after high end talent, and less time servicing his own ego
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Keep this up and you may be getting a call.
 
barfo said:
FTFY.

barfo
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https://blog.seattlepi.com/oregonsp...de-at-the-deadline-but-not-for-anthony-davis/

This time last year, the Trail Blazers were rumored to have eyes for then-Chicago Bulls forward Nikola Mirotic. The hypothetical acquisition would’ve given Portland the floor-spacing it needed and it would’ve allowed Al-Farouq Aminu to slide back down to his natural small forward position.

The Pelicans ultimately ended up with the now-27-year-old (he’ll be 28 later this month), but they find themselves as sellers following Davis’ trade request ahead of Thursday’s deadline.

As far as what Niko would do for the Blazers…nothing has changed. Portland is 18th this season in three-pointers made and just 20th in attempts. He’s shooting a respectable 36.8 percent from deep on the year, but his stroke is even better than the numbers suggest, as it was just last season he knocked down 42.9 percent during his shortened stint with the Bulls.

Mirotic has also proved to be tougher than the Euro stereotype that’s followed him for much of his career. His 8.3 rebounds per game are a career high by a relative longshot—but really it’d just be cool to have a Fire & Ice combo at the 4 and the 5 if you’re Portland.

Although Olshey doesn’t have a lot to work with as far as hot trade commodities go, he does have something the Pelicans are desperate for: a first-round draft pick.

NOLA has no interest in winning this season as it starts to prepare for Pelicans A.D. (After Davis), so the organization won’t have a problem helping another Western Conference team get better if it means the Pels can stock up for the future as a result.
 
blue9 said:
Naw, it's like saying CJ is Portland's Klay. Which, IMO, is apt.

Dame is our Curry.
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that's leaving Durant out of the equation but fine

the problem is saying that Derozan was Toronto's Dame....that's what was loopy. Derozan was Toronto's CJ and they didn't have a Dame...they had two CJ's (both better). That's why they took a risk on Kawhi hoping he'd become their Dame

my main push-back was to a poster trying to justify Blazer inaction by talking about trading Dame for another player at his level. Thus, if you objected to that trade then Olshey was justified in sitting on his hands
 
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