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ABM said:
We shall see.

If Joe ends up being the Democratic nominee, he'll do his best to ride Obama's coattails as far as he can. I'm already seeing signs of that. Problem with that strategy, though, is, at some point, Joe's gonna have to stand alone. What will he bring to the table is the question.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/texts-from-joe-biden-to-barack-obama-on-march-2-2020
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Other than confusion, division, and being a demagogue, a xenophobe, a sexist, a know-nothing, and a liar, what exactly has your Fuhrer "brought to the table".
 
yankeesince59 said:
Other than confusion, division, and being a demagogue, a xenophobe, a sexist, a know-nothing, and a liar, what exactly has your Fuhrer "brought to the table".
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One or two things....

  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
  • We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  • Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  • Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.
 
 
 
As far as I can tell....

Road Ratt claims to see no difference between a president who admittedly made some bad decisions, is gaffe prone, rather dull, but who is empathetic, accepts scientific fact, has good relations with allies and would appoint qualified sane people and a president who is an absolutely ignorant pathological liar white supremacist, never cared for anything but his ego and his wealth, and is currently in the midst of purging all competent people from the administrations, replacing them with unqualified sycophants based solely on their total uncritical loyalty to him.

ABM is cool with a president who is an absolutely ignorant pathological liar white supremacist, never cared for anything but his ego and his wealth, and is currently in the midst of purging all competent people from the administrations, replacing them with unqualified sycophants based solely on their total uncritical loyalty to him because men forcing themselves on women against our will is so totally awesome.

And Maris insists Trump is not an absolutely ignorant pathological liar white supremacist, never cared for anything but his ego and his wealth, and is currently in the midst of purging all competent people from the administrations, replacing them with unqualified sycophants based solely on their total uncritical loyalty to him, but is the greatest president in the history of the republic and the greatest person to ever walk the earth.

Like we said in my young day, stop the world, I want to get off.
 
ABM said:
One or two things....

  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
  • We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  • Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  • Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.
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That's a dizzying amount of bullshit.
What little benefits we enjoy, we enjoy at a cost of $2.8 Trillion dollars.
Your last statement is what I skipped down to because of the length of your treatise, and it says that Democrats want open borders. This is 100% False. Democrats want humane treatment for applicants and they want us to follow the law. As for the Wall, they don't want us wasting any more money than we currently waste on Trump's golf trips to his resorts. The same money would be BETTER spent on other means of controlling our borders such as a border check points where most of the illegal activity occurs. The Wall is stupid, stupid, stupid.
Military funding is less than it could be because somehow Trump has his Supreme Court convinced that a Wall is some sort of military expenditure and real military expenditures may be diverted on a pretty much useless Wall.
A Space Force is so dumb that it hardly deserves any attention. Why not continue with the U.S. Air force delegated that task?
There was nothing illegal on getting the regulation of clean coal power instituted.
Guantanamo Bay costs us more to keep open than the equally secure U.S. based alternative. Guantanamo Bay costs us $1 Million per detainee.
NAFTA is better but barely.
The trade deficit has increased 24% under Trump.
Coal jobs have increased less than 2,000 and are headed for extinction due to economic factors.
How about that water in Flint Michigan.
What about the auto industry that Trump would have us strangle.
There have been no terrorists whatsoever from the majority of the countries where Trump wants to ban their travel to the U.S.
Moving our Israeli embassy to Jerusalem has hurt our image internationally.
Vetting of our refugees has already been extremely rigorous.
The withdrawal of our Iran deal has hurt us internationally. And it has hurt Iranian citizens a great deal especially in the form of difficulty getting medicine and medical equipment. This is mostly due to difficulties in getting banking involved in these procurements.
The Paris Climate Accord was a last ditch attempt to get Global Warming under control. I'm afraid that we are so near the tipping point that it may not be possible to control and people are dying all over the world. A chunk of ice covering solid ground is about to break off of Antarctica the size of Florida. It will raise sea levels noticeably more than they have already been raised, which I believe is already about 6 inches higher than before.
Since the penalty affecting the non compliance with Obama Care has been removed by Trump, there are about 2 Million less people with health care. Wait 'till the Supreme Court removes Obama Care completely shortly after the next election, the Republican party will be doomed to erasure.
Record number of regulations removed which includes one that prohibited the dumping of certain mining wastes in our rivers and streams.

Well, that's about half of your copy and paste assertions. I just don't have time to go into all of them.

ABM, I'm disappointed to see you falling for all the lies and distortions that Trump throws out there on a daily basis. You do know that Trump lies once in a while, don't you?
 
For I was a stranger and you took me not in....
 
Lanny said:
That's a dizzying amount of bullshit.....

ABM, I'm disappointed to see you falling for all the lies and distortions that Trump throws out there on a daily basis. You do know that Trump lies once in a while, don't you?
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No, none of us do.

Problem is, you have no backup plan.
 
crandc said:
As far as I can tell....

Road Ratt claims to see no difference between a president who admittedly made some bad decisions, is gaffe prone, rather dull, but who is empathetic, accepts scientific fact, has good relations with allies and would appoint qualified sane people and a president who is an absolutely ignorant pathological liar white supremacist, never cared for anything but his ego and his wealth, and is currently in the midst of purging all competent people from the administrations, replacing them with unqualified sycophants based solely on their total uncritical loyalty to him.
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Biden was already a traitor to America as VP under Obama. Our American presidents abandoned the working class decades ago, moved millions of manufacturing jobs out of the country and nobody in either party is bringing those jobs back. The republicans and democrats work for corporations and the elite class nowadays. The people of America, not so much. They have completely forgotten about "We the People".

What I really see are two parties with zero morals, at least in their leadership. That is why I see no difference between the two parties. (I hope that clears it up for everyone :tongue:)

I understand this may be a severe stance to take, but my beliefs about both parties changed several years ago when I was shown the truth about our two party system here in America. I can't go back to unseeing the truth.

Take it easy.
 
ABM said:
Who's your backup plan? In other words, who are you voting for...and why?
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I'm not working for anyone. Wish I could but I'm not able physically to help anyone. I'm no good at bothering people at supper time to get them to vote for my candidate.
Who do I support? The best person to beat Trump and that would be Biden.
Who do I fantasize as the best President even though that candidate has dropped out? Pete Buttigieg. Hope he gets in the cabinet some place.
 
Lanny said:
I'm not working for anyone. Wish I could but I'm not able physically to help anyone. I'm no good at bothering people at supper time to get them to vote for my candidate.
Who do I support? The best person to beat Trump and that would be Biden.
Who do I fantasize as the best President even though that candidate has dropped out? Pete Buttigieg. Hope he gets in the cabinet some place.
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Fair enough. Thanks for the honest responses, Lanny. For certain, I'd rather it be Biden than Bernie, as well. Bernie scares the crap out of me. The entire Socialist movement is a scam, IMO. It may work for awhile, but eventually dissolves in futility.
 
ABM said:
Fair enough. Thanks for the honest responses, Lanny. For certain, I'd rather it be Biden than Bernie, as well. Bernie scares the crap out of me. The entire Socialist movement is a scam, IMO. It may work for awhile, but eventually dissolves in futility.
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I wouldn't let Bernie scare you. Even though I support his Medicare for all I don't thing there's a chance in hell that he could get any of his grand schemes enacted into law.
 
A Sanders presidency won't look drastically different than a Biden presidency. Both will be more liberal than the median of Congress, even if Democrats win the Senate back. So the constraints will come from Congress, not who occupies the Oval Office.
 
Minstrel said:
A Sanders presidency won't look drastically different than a Biden presidency. Both will be more liberal than the median of Congress, even if Democrats win the Senate back. So the constraints will come from Congress, not who occupies the Oval Office.
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I don't think so tbh... I think Biden is much more likely to basically go back to working within "normal" presidential rules like presidents before Trump for the most part. I think Sanders is pretty much an all or get out of my way type. I think Bernie is looking at Trump and how he has redefined presidential power / authority to mean he can do whatever the heck he wants. I think Bernie would be willing to act in a similar fashion, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah I think under normal circumstances like 8 years ago Bernie and his ideas would have no shot, but Trump has set a precedent for extreme presidents to basically ignore things and to find ways to do what they want to do. Whether that's good or bad, I don't know but it's divisive, and I think Bernie is divisive and just like Trump doesn't really care what people think about it, he'll do what he wants.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I don't think so tbh... I think Biden is much more likely to basically go back to working within "normal" presidential rules like presidents before Trump for the most part. I think Sanders is pretty much an all or get out of my way type. I think Bernie is looking at Trump and how he has redefined presidential power / authority to mean he can do whatever the heck he wants. I think Bernie would be willing to act in a similar fashion, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah I think under normal circumstances like 8 years ago Bernie and his ideas would have no shot, but Trump has set a precedent for extreme presidents to basically ignore things and to find ways to do what they want to do. Whether that's good or bad, I don't know but it's divisive, and I think Bernie is divisive and just like Trump doesn't really care what people think about it, he'll do what he wants.
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I do see Joe as a cross the Isle for support type of politician. There is still that good old boy country club portion from both sides that he's comfortable with.
 
Minstrel said:
A Sanders presidency won't look drastically different than a Biden presidency. Both will be more liberal than the median of Congress, even if Democrats win the Senate back. So the constraints will come from Congress, not who occupies the Oval Office.
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This would be assuming that we also know for sure how the Congress/Senate pans out, and we simply don't know at this point. Much can happen between now and November.

And while the differences between Biden and Bernie may not be drastically different, they will be different.
 
Surfing channels and saw Bernard on Fox?
Maybe he's more moderate than I thought! lol
 
Minstrel said:
A Sanders presidency won't look drastically different than a Biden presidency. Both will be more liberal than the median of Congress, even if Democrats win the Senate back. So the constraints will come from Congress, not who occupies the Oval Office.
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It's who can work the best with Congress and I contend that's Biden. Let's hope he gets a Democratic Senate.
 
Hoopguru said:
Surfing channels and saw Bernard on Fox?
Maybe he's more moderate than I thought! lol
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No the Democratic establishment media is just so shitty that actual progressives have to go on Fox News to be heard. You know things are bad when you have to watch Tucker Carlson to see objective analysis of the Democratic presidential race.
 
jonnyboy said:
No the Democratic establishment media is just so shitty that actual progressives have to go on Fox News to be heard. You know things are bad when you have to watch Tucker Carlson to see objective analysis of the Democratic presidential race.
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Have you really sunk so low as to watch Fox News? There ought to be a law against this sort of thing.
 
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