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ABM said:
Well, Trump had no chance of beating Hillary up until the final hour, so what does that say? You tell me.
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It tells me people were duped and now aware that trump is not a president and especially one that can be trusted. It also tells me that some of those swing states that he barely won could have very well been by Russian interference.
 
CupWizier said:
It tells me people were duped and now aware that trump is not a president and especially one that can be trusted. It also tells me that some of those swing states that he barely won could have very well been by Russian interference.
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I still kinda wonder what is is Russia did to sway folks towards Trump. Was it all the Hillary fear, e-mails, etc. propaganda?
 
ABM said:
I still kinda wonder what is is Russia did to sway folks towards Trump. Was it all the Hillary fear, e-mails, etc. propaganda?
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Do some research. Do you think Russia put forth an effort for nothing? It's been proven Russia interfered. It's been proven that Russia wanted trump to win. It's been proven they have continually interfered up to this time as well as plan on interfering in the 2020 election.
 
ABM said:
It sure is amazing to me how he figured out a way to pull all those levers.
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Russians are pretty good chess players..generally speaking...and he didn't pull any levers...he has an army of hackers to drive that car....fair to say as the head of the Kremlin before his presidency..Putin has been around the block...he's sure played Trump like a kazoo. He's essentially ballooned his military presence beyond anything we've seen since the cold war. I fail to see how you are amazed by these events but I'm surprised all the time. I fail to see how anyone could possibly have a shred of faith in much our prez says or does
 
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CupWizier said:
Do some research. Do you think Russia put forth an effort for nothing? It's been proven Russia interfered. It's been proven that Russia wanted trump to win. It's been proven they have continually interfered up to this time as well as plan on interfering in the 2020 election.
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Yet you have zero facts to back this up.
 
LOL at anyone that thinks the clowns the Dems have running will be any better.
 
tlongII said:
LOL at anyone that thinks the clowns the Dems have running will be any better.
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There are a few that I would rather have in office than Trump. The unfortunate thing is most “progressives” seem to be chugging establishment kool aid and supporting morons like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
 
jonnyboy said:
Yet you have zero facts to back this up.
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Even fuckboy Pence has stated that Russian interference in our elections must be stopped. As Cup said, it’s proven Russia interfered in the election. We don’t know if they were successful but we know they tried.
 
jonnyboy said:
Yet you have zero facts to back this up.
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The proven facts are that all of our intelligence agencies agree on this. That ought to swing some weight.
 
Lanny said:
The proven facts are that all of our intelligence agencies agree on this. That ought to swing some weight.
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They all agreed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction as well. Let’s not take professional liars word as gold.
 
jonnyboy said:
They all agreed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction as well. Let’s not take professional liars word as gold.
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No, they didn't all agree. That was strictly the CIA and Vice President Cheney. In fact, it was mostly Cheney.
 
calvin natt said:
Even fuckboy Pence has stated that Russian interference in our elections must be stopped. As Cup said, it’s proven Russia interfered in the election. We don’t know if they were successful but we know they tried.
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By the way, who was in charge when the Russians attempted to interfere with the election?
 
calvin natt said:
We don’t know if they were successful
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Well this is a step forward, at least you’re willing to admit that much. MSNBCs ratings-grab ramblings are gospel at this point to a select few on here.
 
jonnyboy said:
They all agreed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction as well. Let’s not take professional liars word as gold.
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look....a squirrel! (they all?) you mean the guys at your poker night, right?
 
tlongII said:
By the way, who was in charge when the Russians attempted to interfere with the election?
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The Russians.
Who is in charge now that we know what they've done? The Russians. No one, least of all Trump and McConnell, is in charge in the U.S. government.
 
Lanny said:
No, they didn't all agree. That was strictly the CIA and Vice President Cheney. In fact, it was mostly Cheney.
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You are completely wrong here lanny. The entire intelligence community was on board with it, as well as the media. Sort of like this current conspiracy theory you’ve fully invested your time and emotion into.
 
Anyone who thinks Russia opening up naval ports in South America and Central America is progress is an idiot.
 
jonnyboy said:
You are completely wrong here lanny. The entire intelligence community was on board with it, as well as the media. Sort of like this current conspiracy theory you’ve fully invested your time and emotion into.
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I think you're sensationalizing that piece of history...it was never all inclusive or agreed upon by everyone...but it is sort of your way of investing in your idea of conspiracy eh?
 
“The Russians” is not a specific group. Who are you guys referring to? Russian hackers? The Kremlin? Random people with Russian sounding names? And where are the facts to pinpoint a SPECIFIC group?

I’m having trouble defining the line where the facts end and the conspiracy theory begins.

Vague terms like “The Russians” shouldn’t be enough for any critically thinking adult.
 
jonnyboy said:
You are completely wrong here lanny. The entire intelligence community was on board with it, as well as the media. Sort of like this current conspiracy theory you’ve fully invested your time and emotion into.
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That simply isn't true. This was a Cheney show.
"A year after [the Gulf War], the United States Senate released the Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq which concluded that many of the Bush Administration's pre-war statements about Iraqi WMD were misleading and not supported by the underlying intelligence."
 
jonnyboy said:
“The Russians” is not a specific group. Who are you guys referring to? Russian hackers? The Kremlin? Random people with Russian sounding names? And where are the facts to pinpoint a SPECIFIC group?

I’m having trouble defining the line where the facts end and the conspiracy theory begins.

Vague terms like “The Russians” shouldn’t be enough for any critically thinking adult.
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It's ok to talk about global politics in general terms....we're not investigative lawyers around here. The Russians and Russian backed agents scattered across the region hacked us...still are...some are more than likely pay for play hackers.....all govts subcontract jobs in espionage and always have. If you haven't researched the proof that we've already discovered...then you have no dog in this fight.
 
jonnyboy said:
Yet you have zero facts to back this up.
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Fact: admitted even by Putin they interfered in the election

Fact; FBI and Mueller confirmed that Russian interference happened and is happening now. Wake up johnny.
 
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