Politics 2020 Field - DNC

[Lanny]

This whole Dem SECRET COURT is a leap too far for most of my anti-Trump friends. Pretty much every one of them is going to vote for whoever runs 3rd party.

DNC is springing someone else at the last minute, Hillary or Michelle or Oprah...they have to know the current crop have no prayer.

That says something about the crowd you run with.

 

[Lanny]

Which is guaranteed.

I expect Mitch will call for a vote to dismiss without debate.

If it passes the Home, which seems doubtful.

Senator McConnell has already said they would take up impeachment in the Senate and that they were Constitutionally required to do so.

 

[Chris Craig]

Mayor Pete has surged to 3rd in Iowa polls

 

[Stevenson]

Mayor Pete has surged to 3rd in Iowa polls

I must say, he's growing on me. What an impressive person. Rhodes Scholar. Veteran. Articulate and super smart. How anyone, even Maris , can listen to him and not be impressed, even if you disagree with him, is baffling (although maybe Maris is a bad example as he is, by his own admission, a caricature of a real person.)

 

[riverman]

I must say, he's growing on me. What an impressive person. Rhodes Scholar. Veteran. Articulate and super smart. How anyone, even Maris , can listen to him and not be impressed, even if you disagree with him, is baffling (although maybe Maris is a bad example as he is, by his own admission, a caricature of a real person.)

He's got Bobby Kennedy charisma and is very clear spoken..not likely to get rattled

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I must say, he's growing on me. What an impressive person. Rhodes Scholar. Veteran. Articulate and super smart. How anyone, even Maris , can listen to him and not be impressed, even if you disagree with him, is baffling (although maybe Maris is a bad example as he is, by his own admission, a caricature of a real person.)

I may have to give him more time but so far as with just about everyone in the Democratic debates outside of maybe Yang, he does nothing for me.
I think the problem is currently right now their speaking to the left and that's about it because they need the nomination, when they get to the were speaking to the whole country portion of the election process they may do more for me.
Sure he's an impressive "person" most of them are that's why they're there because they have accomplishments that 99% + of people don't have.

 

[jonnyboy]

I must say, he's growing on me. What an impressive person. Rhodes Scholar. Veteran. Articulate and super smart. How anyone, even Maris , can listen to him and not be impressed, even if you disagree with him, is baffling (although maybe Maris is a bad example as he is, by his own admission, a caricature of a real person.)

Not everyone is impressed by vague platitudes and applause break statements. Some people want actual, specific, tangible policies layed out. Pete is severely lacking any visceral content. He can speak for minutes on end and literally make zero points. He says the same bland, make everyone happy statements we’ve heard from every other establishment jackass with no decent policy ideas.

But yes, he is eloquent in his nonsense.

And I can’t say I disagree with him, because it’s hard to disagree with a person who doesn’t say anything.

 

[riverman]

Not everyone is impressed by vague platitudes and applause break statements. Some people want actual, specific, tangible policies layed out. Pete is severely lacking any visceral content. He can speak for minutes on end and literally make zero points. He says the same bland, make everyone happy statements we’ve heard from every other establishment jackass with no decent policy ideas.

But yes, he is eloquent in his nonsense.

And I can’t say I disagree with him, because it’s hard to disagree with a person who doesn’t say anything.

read his website...he has things to say..whether you agree or not is your choice but he's not just a talking head as you seem to think..I don't think he can win, but he's an impressive guy and has accomplishments beyond your view that he's some shallow sheeple. He's at least an adult in the room facing a childish incumbent president.
https://peteforamerica.com/

 

[calvin natt]

Not everyone is impressed by vague platitudes and applause break statements. Some people want actual, specific, tangible policies layed out. Pete is severely lacking any visceral content. He can speak for minutes on end and literally make zero points. He says the same bland, make everyone happy statements we’ve heard from every other establishment jackass with no decent policy ideas.

But yes, he is eloquent in his nonsense.

And I can’t say I disagree with him, because it’s hard to disagree with a person who doesn’t say anything.

well at least “eloquent in his nonsense” it better than “ineloquent” in his nonsense like the bumbling idiot now.

 

[barfo]

Sure he's an impressive "person" most of them are that's why they're there because they have accomplishments that 99% + of people don't have.

Actually, his resume is impressive when compared to the other candidates, not just to the general population.

barfo

 

[donkiez]

Pete just seems like Biden to me. But hey, he is young and gay so he feels fresh!

 

[CupWizier]

This whole Dem SECRET COURT is a leap too far for most of my anti-Trump friends. Pretty much every one of them is going to vote for whoever runs 3rd party.

DNC is springing someone else at the last minute, Hillary or Michelle or Oprah...they have to know the current crop have no prayer.

Ho w come we all know about this "secret court". If we know about it, then it isn't a secret.

 

[Lanny]

Not everyone is impressed by vague platitudes and applause break statements. Some people want actual, specific, tangible policies layed out. Pete is severely lacking any visceral content. He can speak for minutes on end and literally make zero points. He says the same bland, make everyone happy statements we’ve heard from every other establishment jackass with no decent policy ideas.

But yes, he is eloquent in his nonsense.

And I can’t say I disagree with him, because it’s hard to disagree with a person who doesn’t say anything.

You obviously are not listening to him.

 

[Lanny]

This whole Dem SECRET COURT is a leap too far for most of my anti-Trump friends. Pretty much every one of them is going to vote for whoever runs 3rd party.

DNC is springing someone else at the last minute, Hillary or Michelle or Oprah...they have to know the current crop have no prayer.

Are you willing to make a wager on that last wild eyed claim? Not certain enough to steal my money? Okay, how about a gentleman's bet? Still not certain enough?

 

[donkiez]

 

[ABM]

So, Andrew mentioned the possibility of a Biden/Yang ticket?

 

[barfo]

So, Andrew mentioned the possibility of a Biden/Yang ticket?

I don't think that's at all likely. Probably Biden is almost as likely to select Don Jr. as Yang.

barfo

 

[ABM]

I don't think that's at all likely. Probably Biden is almost as likely to select Don Jr. as Yang.

barfo

You could be absolutely right. At any rate, Yang said they've talked about it.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/22/andrew-yang-teases-running-in-2020-with-joe-biden-/

 

[donkiez]

You could be absolutely right. At any rate, Yang said they've talked about it.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/22/andrew-yang-teases-running-in-2020-with-joe-biden-/

I gotta think this fluff also. At this point if Yang was talking about being a running mate he would be conceding that he wont win the DNC nomination. He is still talking big on winning the nomination and acting like he will, and as a Yang supporter I honestly don't think I could support Biden even with Yang as his running mate unless I had no other choice. I think most Yang supporters would agree with me.

 

[barfo]

OMG! Tim Ryan has dropped out! This is so unexpected and devastating that I think I will have to lay down.

Among the declared candidates, he was definitely among my top 20 choices.

barfo

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

OMG! Tim Ryan has dropped out! This is so unexpected and devastating that I think I will have to lay down.

Among the declared candidates, he was definitely among my top 20 choices.

barfo

I'll get you a cold compress.

 

[ABM]

OMG! Tim Ryan has dropped out! This is so unexpected and devastating that I think I will have to lay down.

Among the declared candidates, he was definitely among my top 20 choices.

barfo

Here's your new song barfo......


Amy...what you wanna do; I think I could vote for you, for 4 years, maybe longer, if I do....

 

[riverman]

OMG! Tim Ryan has dropped out! This is so unexpected and devastating that I think I will have to lay down.

Among the declared candidates, he was definitely among my top 20 choices.

barfo

Tim Ryan Derangement Syndrome....you should start a podcast for this condition and get a million subscribers in about half a day! A support group for the TR devastated amongst us!

 

[barfo]

Here's your new song barfo......


Amy...what you wanna do; I think I could vote for you, for 4 years, maybe longer, if I do....

Great song. One of my favorites.

barfo

 

[yankeesince59]

Great song. One of my favorites.

barfo

Ahh, Pure Prairie League.

 

[riverman]

Great song. One of my favorites.

barfo

Trying to imagine a Pirate ship docking in port with 70s country rock ballads coming from the captain's cabin

 

[ABM]

This is from The Dispatch.....

2020 Watch: Tom Steyer, Odd Man … In?

With the fifth Democratic debate just weeks away, those 2020 Democratic hopefuls vying to remain on the fringe of relevance are racing to qualify. Of the 12 who made the stage in October, three—Tulsi Gabbard, Beto O’Rourke, and Julian Castro—have yet to meet the debate’s polling threshold.

One candidate who has made the cut may surprise you: Tom Steyer, the hedge fund billionaire who built a #Resistance political brand in 2017 by starting a campaign to get President Trump impeached and who hopped into the 2020 race this past July. Steyer failed to make enough of a splash to qualify for any of the debates before October’s, but has now already punched his ticket for November’s. Even more remarkable, while he has yet to qualify for December’s debate, he’s already closer to doing so than a whole assortment of the cohort’s B-tier pols, including Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar, and Andrew Yang.

Why the modest breakthrough? His campaign would tell you it’s because his outsider message is just getting through to people: “Tom has picked up momentum because his message is resonating,” Steyer spokesman Alberto Lammers told The Dispatch. As president, he would “end the corporate stranglehold on our government and return power to the American people.”

And hey—maybe there’s something to that. But there’s also this: Steyer is pouring an extraordinary amount of his own money into the race, flooding the airwaves of crucial early primary states like South Carolina with ads touting his feel-good biography and slightly lemony smile. The Steyer campaign spent an eye-popping $47 million during this year’s third quarter, more than double the $21 million shelled out by the race’s next-biggest spender, Bernie Sanders.

For some on the left, this makes Steyer a bit of a thorny subject. Longtime Democratic strategist Max Burns told The Dispatch that the billionaire is “showing how easily money can corrupt the process even when the party is purportedly guarding against it.”

“This to me is another example of Howard Schultz syndrome,” Burns said. “You get very successful in one thing, people stop telling you ‘no,’ people start giving you awards just because you’re a valuable draw for their events, and suddenly you start thinking, ‘How hard can this be?’

“He’s seeking the nomination of a party that at least superficially believes money should not buy you the presidency. And yet that is his sole strategy.”

Steyer’s case is interesting because it simultaneously shows the power and the limitations of big-dollar campaigning. In a crowded field where plenty of established and successful politicians are struggling just to get a seat at the table, Steyer has been able to separate from the pack simply by hammering his name into voters’ heads with a wad of cash.

But while infinite funds can certainly help a candidate get voters’ attention, odds are he’ll need to do more more to keep it. After powering his way onto the debate stage in October, Steyer turned in a snoozer of a performance in which his most notable moment was using the word “frenemies” to describe working with hostile nations to combat climate change. If he can’t use the November and December debates to better effect, all that money will have gone to waste. And the grumbling will grow louder among Democrats who believe that his money would have been better spent funding down-ballot candidates than a presidential ego trip.

As an aside....

Let Us Know
What should Tom Steyer have spent $47 million on instead of running for president?

• Buying every single ticket in the stadium to three straight 49ers home games
  
  
• Procuring a second tie
  
  
• Supplying 470 million meals to the hungry through Feeding America
  
  
• Producing a show on Netflix and casting himself as the president
  
  
• Buying a pastoral English village or two
  
  
• Seriously, a second tie
  

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Beto O'Rourke is done. Now he can go back to torturing stuffed animals.

 

[Lanny]

Beto O'Rourke is done. Now he can go back to torturing stuffed animals.

Yeah, I like him but he isn't quite up to the task.
However, what's this about torturing stuffed animals?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yeah, I like him but he isn't quite up to the task.
However, what's this about torturing stuffed animals?

He just looks like a weirdo into that kinda stuff.