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donkiez said:
Her rep said they would support the DNC winner, her direct words indicate that if it came down to Sanders or Trump then she would have to think about it. Lol

This is just a big wow from her as far as I am concerned, timed right before the Iowa primaries to knock Sanders out of contention for no other reason than spite.
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The silver lining though is the fact that Hillary Clinton is so disliked by nearly everyone that her talking shit about someone is basically a positive endorsement for them. People figure if that troll of a woman takes issue with someone they must be doing something right.
 
dviss1 said:
Suck it.
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jonnyboy said:
The silver lining though is the fact that Hillary Clinton is so disliked by nearly everyone that her talking shit about someone is basically a positive endorsement for them. People figure if that troll of a woman takes issue with someone they must be doing something right.
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Lots of people still like and idolize her, also lots of people dislike Bernie so they are quite happy to condone and run with it. The real damage will be in the general election after the democrats tear each other apart. Politics are dirty though and she is proving that she wallows in the mud as much or more than many of us suspected. The 'I told you so' to the Hillary supporters who hold her so high is very hallow.

Its hilarious though, a reputable politician would spend their time promoting people they like/support instead she spends her time shitting on people she doesn't like, blaming others and making excuses. Who else does that sound like? Maybe she can give Bernie and Tulsi a clever nickname then tweet it out while she is at it! She also pisses and moans that Bernie didn't do ENOUGH to help her, even though it was more than she did for Obama, then she insinuates she wont help him even if its down to Sanders vs Trump. The same Trump that calls her Crooked Hillary and chants Lock Her Up. She is the worst type of person. If Trump wasn't so bad it would be very satisfying that she lost, but he is and it isn't.
 
donkiez said:
Lots of people still like and idolize her, also lots of people dislike Bernie so they are quite happy to condone and run with it. The real damage will be in the general election after the democrats tear each other apart. Politics are dirty though and she is proving that she wallows in the mud as much or more than many of us suspected. The 'I told you so' to the Hillary supporters who hold her so high is very hallow.

Its hilarious though, a reputable politician would spend their time promoting people they like/support instead she spends her time shitting on people she doesn't like, blaming others and making excuses. Who else does that sound like? Maybe she can give Bernie and Tulsi a clever nickname then tweet it out while she is at it! She also pisses and moans that Bernie didn't do ENOUGH to help her, even though it was more than she did for Obama, then she insinuates she wont help him even if its down to Sanders vs Trump. The same Trump that calls her Crooked Hillary and chants Lock Her Up. She is the worst type of person. If Trump wasn't so bad it would be very satisfying that she lost, but he is and it isn't.
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Black Widow and very scornful!
She’s not done either..
 
donkiez said:
The real damage will be in the general election after the democrats tear each other apart.
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Sort of like in 2016, you mean? When lots of Bernie supporters decided to vote for a third party, or just not vote?

Yeah, that will be disappointing, but not exactly unusual.

It happened in 2008, when Hillary's PUMA gang revolted against Obama. Luckily we won that one anyway.

I'll be voting for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is (assuming it is one of the current candidates, that is). Of course it doesn't really matter here in Oregon, but I hope Democrats in the swing states can do the same.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Sort of like in 2016, you mean? When lots of Bernie supporters decided to vote for a third party, or just not vote?

Yeah, that will be disappointing, but not exactly unusual.

It happened in 2008, when Hillary's PUMA gang revolted against Obama. Luckily we won that one anyway.

I'll be voting for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is (assuming it is one of the current candidates, that is). Of course it doesn't really matter here in Oregon, but I hope Democrats in the swing states can do the same.

barfo
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If she was a better candidate with a better strategy then it wouldn't have mattered, just like it didn't matter for Obama. Bernie can tell his supporters who he supports and he can urge them to do the same, which he did, but he cant vote for them. It was still on her to earn those votes. Bottom line is Bernie supported Hillary, Hillary sabotaged Bernie. Hillary is the reason we have Trump not Bernie.
 
donkiez said:
If she was a better candidate with a better strategy then it wouldn't have mattered, just like it didn't matter for Obama. Bernie can tell his supporters who he supports and he can urge them to do the same, which he did, but he cant vote for them. It was still on her to earn those votes. Bottom line is Bernie supported Hillary, Hillary sabotaged Bernie. Hillary is the reason we have Trump not Bernie.
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But the more important question is, is that going to happen again? Are the people whose primary candidate doesn't win going to whine and pout? Are they going to claim that the nominee is 'just as bad as Trump'? Or are they going to help vote Trump out of office?

barfo
 
Just realized Buttigieg has a hurtle no one realizes. The United States has never elected......................................................
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ABM said:
Nah, the dem leadership is taking care of that via waylaying him and Pocahontas at the impeachment circus.

The Joe fix is on.
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Calling Senator Warren Pocahontas is a grade school name calling game and beneath you. I hold you in higher regard than that.
 
Lanny said:
Calling Senator Warren Pocahontas is a grade school name calling game and beneath you. I hold you in higher regard than that.
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We all need to get a grip and be able to laugh at ourselves.

Signed,
A2M
 
barfo said:
But the more important question is, is that going to happen again? Are the people whose primary candidate doesn't win going to whine and pout? Are they going to claim that the nominee is 'just as bad as Trump'? Or are they going to help vote Trump out of office?

barfo
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Are you sure they were whining and pouting or was it the Hillary fans who did most of that and are doing it now? Bernie fans who didn't vote for Bernie might have just voted for the candidate that they thought was the best at that time.

Personally I think Hillary would have been better than Trump but every time she opens her mouth she has been closing that gap.

Maybe we made the right decision in 2016, maybe we needed some short term pain for long term gain? Maybe Trump is actually better than Clinton? I don't think so but I'm not right about everything.
 
donkiez said:
Are you sure they were whining and pouting or was it the Hillary fans who did most of that and are doing it now? Bernie fans who didn't vote for Bernie might have just voted for the candidate that they thought was the best at that time.

Personally I think Hillary would have been better than Trump but every time she opens her mouth she has been closing that gap.

Maybe we made the right decision in 2016, maybe we needed some short term pain for long term gain? Maybe Trump is actually better than Clinton? I don't think so but I'm not right about everything.
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With 330 million people in this country, you have to figure that at least 50-60% would meet the constitutional requirements to run for president. So, out of 150-200 million you would have to think that there'd be at least a couple of choices better than Trump or Clinton? Where the heck are they, because I sure don't see much in this year's crop so far that excites me.
 
donkiez said:
Are you sure they were whining and pouting or was it the Hillary fans who did most of that and are doing it now? Bernie fans who didn't vote for Bernie might have just voted for the candidate that they thought was the best at that time.
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Yeah, they might have. But they were wrong then, and they presumably have more data now, so maybe they can make a better decision this time.

And of course a lot of them didn't vote at all.

Maybe we made the right decision in 2016, maybe we needed some short term pain for long term gain? Maybe Trump is actually better than Clinton? I don't think so but I'm not right about everything.
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Yeah, that's nuts. It's like hitting your balls with a hammer because you want to teach yourself not to do it.

barfo
 
Sure does seem like now that Bernie is gaining some steam, the DNC attack dogs are on high alert. Many Democrats are now saying that Sanders and his supporters are as bad as Trump and his supporters. Ridiculous.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Sure does seem like now that Bernie is gaining some steam, the DNC attack dogs are on high alert. Many Democrats are now saying that Sanders and his supporters are as bad as Trump and his supporters. Ridiculous.
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I called this earlier. I knew the centrist establishment would come after him after a few more of their clowns bit the dust. The next wave of attacks levied against Bernie will come in the form of Russian conspiracy theories. I’d bet money on it.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Sure does seem like now that Bernie is gaining some steam, the DNC attack dogs are on high alert. Many Democrats are now saying that Sanders and his supporters are as bad as Trump and his supporters. Ridiculous.
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What did you expect? Anyone who gets near the top of the polls gets attacked. It's nothing so special about Bernie.

Bernie's people are out attacking Biden. Is that unfair? I don't think so.

barfo
 
barfo said:
What did you expect? Anyone who gets near the top of the polls gets attacked. It's nothing so special about Bernie.

Bernie's people are out attacking Biden. Is that unfair? I don't think so.

barfo
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I'm not just talking about Biden's people or Warren's people. It's the media and the establishment going after him too. It's different than what the other candidates get, for the most part.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
I'm not just talking about Biden's people or Warren's people. It's the media and the establishment going after him too. It's different than what the other candidates get, for the most part.
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I don't see that. I see every frontrunner getting hammered. If anything they've gone easy on Bernie. I think there is a better case to be made that they ignore him rather than attack him.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I don't see that. I see every frontrunner getting hammered. If anything they've gone easy on Bernie. I think there is a better case to be made that they ignore him rather than attack him.

barfo
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Do you think the DNC has their preference as well this time around?
 
Hoopguru said:
Do you think the DNC has their preference as well this time around?
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I suppose if they do it would probably be Biden. I think the idea that the DNC has any real ability to force a desired outcome is a bit overblown, though.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I suppose if they do it would probably be Biden. I think the idea that the DNC has any real ability to force a desired outcome is a bit overblown, though.

barfo
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I would hope the couldn't force a desired outcome.
 
They are supported by lobbyist and media whom have agendas and preferred candidates.
 
donkiez said:
Are you sure they were whining and pouting or was it the Hillary fans who did most of that and are doing it now? Bernie fans who didn't vote for Bernie might have just voted for the candidate that they thought was the best at that time.

Personally I think Hillary would have been better than Trump but every time she opens her mouth she has been closing that gap.

Maybe we made the right decision in 2016, maybe we needed some short term pain for long term gain? Maybe Trump is actually better than Clinton? I don't think so but I'm not right about everything.
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How can you tell anyone is a Hillary fan? Is it a secret hairdo they wear? Perhaps the color of their socks. How?
 
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