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Biden probably needs to win both Nevada and South Carolina to remain a serious contender. I don't think he'll drop out before Super Tuesday regardless, but he'll fade into irrelevance if he doesn't turn two states he was counting on into wins at this point.
 
Minstrel said:
Biden probably needs to win both Nevada and South Carolina to remain a serious contender. I don't think he'll drop out before Super Tuesday regardless, but he'll fade into irrelevance if he doesn't turn two states he was counting on into wins at this point.
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I think a second in NV, or even a decent 3rd place, would be sufficient. He can then hail himself as the 'comeback kid' and have momentum going in to SC.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I think a second in NV, or even a decent 3rd place, would be sufficient. He can then hail himself as the 'comeback I’ve fallen and can’t get back up' candidate and have momentum going in to SC.

barfo
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FTFY, ya lying dog-faced pony soldier!

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yankeesince59 said:
Green font sure would have helped but I forgot who I was conversing with.
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No, seriously, I meant it. They'll (he'll/she'll) be razor sharp come November. I had been referring to everything up until that point.
 
Whats will Liz do after SC & Nevada?
Is she going to be the comeback kid?
 
I think Bloomberg has bought my vote fair and square and I think Trump should be very, very nervous.
 
Bernies brown shirts going after culinary union members in Nevada. Against Medicare for all.
It’s happening, socialism versus capitalism.
 
The next president who doesn't address the real concerns of Americans isn't going to last long.

The damn is bursting on this Gig economy, the homeless are piling up faster now under Trump than they were under Obama.

This is the f*cking America both parties gave us...
 
Road Ratt said:
The next president who doesn't address the real concerns of Americans isn't going to last long.

The damn is bursting on this Gig economy, the homeless are piling up faster now under Trump than they were under Obama.

This is the f*cking America both parties gave us...
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Homelessness is such a complex issue, mental illness, and drug use being the main culprit. It’s hard to help a lot of these people when they really don’t want to be helped. It’s really sad, it needs to be tackled in a bipartisan way, because we need ALL ideas on the table.
 
GhostOfPGA said:
Homelessness is such a complex issue, mental illness, and drug use being the main culprit. It’s hard to help a lot of these people when they really don’t want to be helped. It’s really sad, it needs to be tackled in a bipartisan way, because we need ALL ideas on the table.
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Sorry, but it's not a complex issue.

They straight up don't f*cking care. Sorry for the language, it's not meant for you, but it is true. If they cared they would direct money to the issue and it would no longer be a problem. Simple as that.

They can send plenty of money to the military, to their pork projects, build a wall, they can give the wealthiest a tax break... yet America can't afford to get it's homeless off the streets. (It's embarrassing to see how badly we treat our own citizens here in the U.S. .)

Yes, we can.

(If only the war on poverty was a real war, then we would be putting money into it. - Cornel West)
 
Hoopguru said:
Whats will Liz do after SC & Nevada?
Is she going to be the comeback kid?
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I don't think she has a constituency. She's neither the establishment favorite nor the liberal favorite. The idea of "lanes" is overused and she (or another candidate) could win by simply appealing across the spectrum, rather than clearing out and then winning a "lane," but she doesn't appear to be the most popular candidate. She seems pretty strong on paper--advocating for similar social programs as Bernie Sanders but having the technocratic appeal that Barack Obama had. But she's not nearly as magnetic as Obama was and she's neither going to win the more liberal voters away from Sanders nor the more moderate voters away from Buttigieg, Klobuchar or Bloomberg.
 
This just in, sometimes people make mistakes of judgment...but that alone should not define them, especially if they acknowledge the mistake.

Can't really think of a POTUS who never made a mistake/miscalculation, either before they were elected or while they were serving.
 
yankeesince59 said:
This just in, sometimes people make mistakes of judgment...but that alone should not define them, especially if they acknowledge the mistake.

Can't really think of a POTUS who never made a mistake/miscalculation, either before they were elected or while they were serving.
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Nice of you to forgive Donnie.
 
yankeesince59 said:
This just in, sometimes people make mistakes of judgment...but that alone should not define them, especially if they acknowledge the mistake.

Can't really think of a POTUS who never made a mistake/miscalculation, either before they were elected or while they were serving.
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Assuming you're talking about Bloomberg, one of the most racist policies in the last 30 years is a pretty bad mistake that would have been pretty easy to stop if he had any kind of decent judgement in the first place.

Also, has he reversed his stance on the Koch brothers (or other billionaires) using their money to influence government on a large scale? Because that's pretty much the number one issue in my eye. It should not ever be allowed to happen. Period.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Assuming you're talking about Bloomberg, one of the most racist policies in the last 30 years is a pretty bad mistake that would have been pretty easy to stop if he had any kind of decent judgement in the first place.

Also, has he reversed his stance on the Koch brothers (or other billionaires) using their money to influence government on a large scale? Because that's pretty much the number one issue in my eye. It should not ever be allowed to happen. Period.
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Opinions vary...get used to Bloomberg...sorry, but he's not going away...mistakes or not, he's still a MUCH better option than Trump.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Opinions vary...get used to Bloomberg...sorry, but he's not going away...mistakes or not, he's still a MUCH better option than Trump.
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In my opinion, replacing one racist in office with another racist isn't better. Bloomberg's stop and frisk was an act of cruelty towards minorities. He may have inherited it, but under Bloomberg it's use went up 7 fold.
 
The enthusiasm by some Democrats for Bloomberg confuses me. Bloomberg is someone who considered running as a Republican at various points in his career. He's clearly at least slightly right of center and his viewpoints on race relations are problematic at best. I understand why conservatives would think he's great (for a Democrat, anyway), but why would you want him as the standard-bearer for the Democratic party if you're at all left of center?
 
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