Game Thread 2023-24 GAME #27 - BLAZERS VS WIZARDS - DECEMBER 21, 2023 - 7:00 PM PST - ROOT

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I think Chauncey could be a good player development coach.

It is impossible to advocate for his in game decision making. This is year 3. Either learn or get out.
 
Kinda sounds that way...

Question - what was the idea on the last play? Was that a look similar to what we saw the other night with Ant coming off, or were you looking for JG for a 4 on 4?

Billups - No, it was the same play we just ran before that when Ant got the dunk coming down hill. Several options on the play and Jerami just caught it and just kinda went 1 on 1 which I've got to live with that. He's one of our best players, he's a great one on one player, but the only thing I will say is I wish he would have went a little sooner, just in case he missed it we would have had a chance at a tip back. It took a little too long to get there."
eh, not that bad i guess.

still, why would you run the exact same play again? do we really not have other plays to set up simons in an iso at the top of the key?
 
Kinda sounds that way...

Question - what was the idea on the last play? Was that a look similar to what we saw the other night with Ant coming off, or were you looking for JG for a 4 on 4?

Billups - No, it was the same play we just ran before that when Ant got the dunk coming down hill. Several options on the play and Jerami just caught it and just kinda went 1 on 1 which I've got to live with that. He's one of our best players, he's a great one on one player, but the only thing I will say is I wish he would have went a little sooner, just in case he missed it we would have had a chance at a tip back. It took a little too long to get there."
Just sounds like Chauncey being honest to me. Jerami has no business being a number 1 option or a 1a but on the right team he's a helluva good number 3 option and on any team he's a fantastic number 4 option.

Let's hope someone wants to pony up a couple of future firsts for him or a young talented player and a first.
 
I think Chauncey could be a good player development coach.

It is impossible to advocate for his in game decision making. This is year 3. Either learn or get out.
honestly think he'd be fine in the front office in some capacity. coaching is not his thing.
 
That's the the kind of play call you make when you don't really care if you win. In this situation, a couple years ago, there's no way in hell that Dame doesn't get the ball. So why wouldn't Ant?! Not comparing the two. But, when your best scorer is having a 41-point game, why run a play for Jerami?

Also, I hope posters on here start realizing that Tisse shouldn't be considered a throw in or a salary match in a trade. He's playing without fear of the quick hook like he got in Philly. He is the epitome of a 3nD now that he's shooting well and he's only gonna get better. He's already one of the best defenders in the league. He's under rated as a passer and playmaker. He's on a pretty good contract. Depending on the matchups, he could real easily be on the court to finish games.
As soon as he goes, people will scream for better defenders and shooting because some posters seem to think that any player over 25 should be traded for picks. Well, they have plenty of picks and sending him out as part of a trade better get a good return because I think it's a mistake.
 
eh, not that bad i guess.

still, why would you run the exact same play again? do we really not have other plays to set up simons in an iso at the top of the key?

I mean they could have just got him the ball. The Wizards have no one that can stay in front of him or stop him from getting a jump shot off. They had 6 seconds, plenty of time. Doubling there is really risky.
 
Chauncey taking a bunch of the blame on himself. Saying he needs to be better at getting the team prepared.
 
Just sounds like Chauncey being honest to me. Jerami has no business being a number 1 option or a 1a but on the right team he's a helluva good number 3 option and on any team he's a fantastic number 4 option.

Let's hope someone wants to pony up a couple of future firsts for him or a young talented player and a first.
on shit teams sure. but he doesn't do any dirty work to contribute in this role on winning ones.
 
That's the the kind of play call you make when you don't really care if you win. In this situation, a couple years ago, there's no way in hell that Dame doesn't get the ball. So why wouldn't Ant?! Not comparing the two. But, when your best scorer is having a 41-point game, why run a play for Jerami?

Also, I hope posters on here start realizing that Tisse shouldn't be considered a throw in or a salary match in a trade. He's playing without fear of the quick hook like he got in Philly. He is the epitome of a 3nD now that he's shooting well and he's only gonna get better. He's already one of the best defenders in the league. He's under rated as a passer and playmaker. He's on a pretty good contract. Depending on the matchups, he could real easily be on the court to finish games.
As soon as he goes, people will scream for better defenders and shooting because some posters seem to think that any player over 25 should be traded for picks. Well, they have plenty of picks and sending him out as part of a trade better get a good return because I think it's a mistake.

The only thing that made even a little sense is that he was going one on one against a rookie.... but I just don't like it. It's not a shot that I can live with. If Simons missed or if he did a kickout and Grant missed a wide open three, I can live with that. Doing a backdown was just...... lame. And like Billups said, it didn't leave us with any time to rebound and attempt a second shot.
 
Simons should've made that layup in the first place.
 
on shit teams sure. but he doesn't do any dirty work to contribute in this capacity on winning ones.
I think he defends really well on the perimeter and is very switchable, he's also a good weak side shot blocker. Jerami does a ton of winning things... he definitely shouldn't be the guy you go to if you want him to get you 8-10 boards every game. Some solid third option scoring and defense... that's what Jerami is good for and hopefully some team wants that bad enough that we get some good value for him.
 
the refs gifted Portland a chance to win by reversing their call. Can't blame those slimy crooked officials for this loss.
 
Sure. Ayton should have made one of the two wide open ones on the play before too.
I like some of the things that Ayton does better than Nurk but he isn't close to as good of a screener and it's very frustrating having another huge guy who is capable of dunking a fuck ton more than he chooses to.
 
I want to see Ant/Shaedon/Toumani/Bari/Ayton.

Scoot off the bench with hopefully some shooters. If Rob Williams isn't done forever he'd be an awesome fit in the starting lineup.

You'll never see it.

He's done
 
I want to see Ant/Shaedon/Toumani/Bari/Ayton.

Scoot off the bench with hopefully some shooters. If Rob Williams isn't done forever he'd be an awesome fit in the starting lineup.
Three out of those five can’t shoot the three with any consistency. That’s not great. Grant, for all his faults, is a great corner three point shooter.
 
Three out of those five can’t shoot the three with any consistency. That’s not great. Grant, for all his faults, is a great corner three point shooter.

Not really trying to win. I just want to see if you can field a competent offense with Ant's gravity and the other guys just covering for him defensively. If Toumani and Bari can get to 35-36% in the next few years it'll be like having a better version of Mo/Chief. Plus, you'll still have Tisse coming off the bench who will play a lot with those lineups.

Then draft one of the many forwards this draft with a top 5 pick and develop him to be a starter.

I also think Ayton has potential as a 3 point shooter. I'm curious if they've ever tried turning him into one. The offense is really good with Duop Reath in there at center and he's only a 35% shooter.
 
For everyone Scoot bashing right now. The dude is obviously incredibly inconsistent right now but we aren't trying to win shit this season so keep getting the young guy reps so if he has it in him, he can develop his game.

Sure, he might get better. But right now, he's a big reason why we're losing.
 
Sure, he might get better. But right now, he's a big reason why we're losing.

Pretty confident we'd be closer to 50% winrate if you didn't play Scoot at all and just spread his minutes among the forwards.
 
I want to see Ant/Shaedon/Toumani/Bari/Ayton.

Scoot off the bench with hopefully some shooters. If Rob Williams isn't done forever he'd be an awesome fit in the starting lineup.

We only have 4 average quality NBA starters right now. Simons, Brogdon, Ayton and Grant.
 
Maybe they're average separately, but collectively they're way below average.

That group just got punked by a 4-win team in their home stadium.

with the players Portland has, even with the games missed Portland should have more than 7 wins, IMO
 
Maybe they're average separately, but collectively they're way below average.

That group just got punked by a 4-win team in their home stadium.
It’s the jerseys. They’re cursed. They need to stop wearing them.
 
with the players Portland has, even with the games missed Portland should have more than 7 wins, IMO
Why? We were projected as like a 25 win team. We are basically on track for that. This isn’t a good team. It has talent but it’s extremely young and we have a lot of injury prone guys.
 
Why? We were projected as like a 25 win team. We are basically on track for that. This isn’t a good team. It has talent but it’s extremely young and we have a lot of injury prone guys.

because I predicted 33 wins
 
Scoot isn’t the dude that got us into the hole tonight. He was +7 and was in for the run that got us back into the game. You guys are ridiculously harsh on the kid.

I'm not just talking about this game.
 
I'm not just talking about this game.
I don’t think we have a single win without Scoot in the lineup. Scoot hasn’t been playing when Simons is ice cold in the first half. We are giving up big leads and then having to dig out of it. Often Scoot is part of the unit that makes a run.
 

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