Game Thread 2023-24 GAME #43 - BLAZERS @ THUNDER - JANUARY 23, 2024 - TUESDAY - 5:00 PM PST - ROOT

[e_blazer]

This has been discussed a couple times elsewhere. He seems to have a jump that is more broad than high.

We’ve plenty of videos with him dunking well above the rim. I think his main problem is timing. He hasn’t fully adjusted to NBA defenses and often jumps too soon.

 

[e_blazer]

I think I've normally seen the player call the time out in that situation to be fair...

Both coach and player were calling time out (as is common) and the ref didn’t respond to either.

 

[beast blazer]

Both coach and player were calling time out (as is common) and the ref didn’t respond to either.

He should have cradled the ball, made the TO symbol to the ref etc, maid it blatantly obvious.

 

[beast blazer]

Referees should have to wear shock collars, and get electric shocks when they make mistakes.

 

[e_blazer]

He should have cradled the ball, made the TO symbol to the ref etc, maid it blatantly obvious.

Have you seen the play? The whole thing happens in about two seconds. I’d love to see some closeup video, but it looks to me like SGA and Williams throw on the trap by rushing Brogdon. He cradles the ball and turns, appearing to me to be yelling for a timeout, meanwhile being raked across the face by SGA, which then causes Brogdon to drop the ball and take a dribble. There’s no time to do what you suggest.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

So here’s the refs’ explanation:



So, let me get this straight. Kennedy is saying only this ref “in the slot position” has the ability and/or responsibility to hear or see a coach call a time out in a situation where it would be expected to be called approximately 99.9% of the time? He’s also saying that that ref is so zoned in on the play that he failed to notice the player being trapped call for a time out (which, again, would be expected 99.9% of the time). The ref is also so intent on reffing that play to its conclusion that he fails to see Malcolm being fouled with a hit to the face that draws blood, which -had he called it - would have ended the play before the double dribble. And then, with Chauncey reasonably concluding that this young ref is both deaf and blind, he reaches out for his elbow to get his attention and draws an “appropriate” tech. Yeah, great job refs.

That’s straight dogshit! ( no offense sly)

Zero accountability. Zero responsibility.
Refs need more of an overhaul than our government!!!

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Referees should have to wear shock collars, and get electric shocks when they make mistakes.

Have you seen the play? The whole thing happens in about two seconds. I’d love to see some closeup video, but it looks to me like SGA and Williams throw on the trap by rushing Brogdon. He cradles the ball and turns, appearing to me to be yelling for a timeout, meanwhile being raked across the face by SGA, which then causes Brogdon to drop the ball and take a dribble. There’s no time to do what you suggest.

Hard to cradle the ball when you are getting smacked in the face hard enough to bleed.

The timeout was called by the two most important people on the court. The ball handler and the coach.
end of story.

Fuck the refs union for not holding them accountable.

 

[kjironman1]

If Coach didn't beat up the official... could the Blazers have challenged that timeout call?

Thuggin!

 

[TBpup]

Shocking!!! A large market team with a superstar gets the 'redo'? What are the odds....

 

[Rastapopoulos]

This has been discussed a couple times elsewhere. He seems to have a jump that is more broad than high.

Easy solution: he needs to turn his jump sideways!

 

[Shaboid]

Don't we want the L anyway?? Shouldn't we wish all of our losses are by two points for the learning experience? Sure, it looks to be a bad call, but what happened to all the people claiming that it's not about the wins this year?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Scoot had some phenomenal finishes last night in traffic. The kid is strong enough to absorb contact and still fiinsih. Not saying he is consistent at this point, but he certainly shows the potential we were hoping for.

 

[BassPlaya]

NBA, shame on you.

 

[wizenheimer]

Scoot had some phenomenal finishes last night in traffic. The kid is strong enough to absorb contact and still fiinsih. Not saying he is consistent at this point, but he certainly shows the potential we were hoping for.

3 out of 5 and that's better than most of his games lately:



I hadn't really noticed till a couple of posters here started talking about it but Scoot almost never uses his left hand. He needs to spend all summer working on his left-hand dribble and shot because lacking those skills is a real handicap when attacking the paint and rim

I'd wonder is there is any evidence of a player improving his overall shooting by developing better off-hand skills

also, he had 7 assists and only 1 turnover which a major improvement over his season averages. He did throw up a lot of bricks but it was the starting back court having 12 assists vs 11 turnovers that put Portland in the position of being reamed by a bollixed call at the end of the game

 

[Strenuus]

Don't we want the L anyway?? Shouldn't we wish all of our losses are by two points for the learning experience? Sure, it looks to be a bad call, but what happened to all the people claiming that it's not about the wins this year?

I want the league to uphold it.

 

[KingSpeed]

This protest could be successful.

 

[KingSpeed]

Don't we want the L anyway?? Shouldn't we wish all of our losses are by two points for the learning experience? Sure, it looks to be a bad call, but what happened to all the people claiming that it's not about the wins this year?

But it wasn’t a bad call. A timeout should’ve happened before any call.

 

[Shaboid]

But it wasn’t a bad call. A timeout should’ve happened before any call.

That doesn't change the point I was making.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

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I actually don't think this is all Simons' fault. I notice in close games that Brogdon trusts Simons to have the ball and must consider him a clutch scorer. Billups is failing to figure out how to get the maximum benefit out of Simons. Still his bad defense will always make him a net neutral player at best. Although he did play some good defense at times last night. He is better at guarding the guy with the ball; it's just when he is off ball he gets lost.

 

[wizenheimer]

I actually don't think this is all Simons' fault. I notice in close games that Brogdon trusts Simons to have the ball and must consider him a clutch scorer. Billups is failing to figure out how to get the maximum benefit out of Simons. Still his bad defense will always make him a net neutral player at best. Although he did play some good defense at times last night. He is better at guarding the guy with the ball; it's just when he is off ball he gets lost.

I think Simons is overrated but there's no denying that his clutch time stats have been elite this season:




64% FG's and 72% eFG% is wild. He even gets to the line at a high rate. The one 'negative' stat is that the Blazer's net +/- with him on the floor is 0. 123.8 points on offense; same on defense. Portland's a bad team so maybe a zero net is a positive too

 

[B-Roy]

I actually don't think this is all Simons' fault. I notice in close games that Brogdon trusts Simons to have the ball and must consider him a clutch scorer. Billups is failing to figure out how to get the maximum benefit out of Simons. Still his bad defense will always make him a net neutral player at best. Although he did play some good defense at times last night. He is better at guarding the guy with the ball; it's just when he is off ball he gets lost.

He's a ball watcher. Learned from the best (Dame).

 

[Pinwheel1]

I notice in close games that Brogdon trusts Simons to have the ball and must consider him a clutch scorer.

I think the variety of ways Ant can score is as good as anyone we have ever had. It makes him a natural to take the last shot.

Yes, Dame was the most clutch, but that for the most part was his incredible range. CJ was pretty good at it, as were Porter and Roy.

So yes I think Brogdon sees that Ant is our best at the moment.

 

[blazerkor]

wasnt able to watch the game (early shift 6:00 am), but i saw that scoot had solid game by box score, but what about eye test

also it seems that team really wanted to win this game, they played with poise after the embarrassment last time

He looked just as good as the numbers suggest. Even though he's had "bigger games" this was probably the game where he had the most efficient impact on the game. He still fouled too much and missed some layups that he rushed but his passing was on point and he played good defense that was only not great because he still hasn't figured out how physical he can be. Maybe if he starts finishing better at the hoop, he'll just get a reputation for being a physical player in the upcoming years and like a much more gifted PatBev get away with basically not getting called for shit that others get called for. More likely the game still has him too excited and when it gets more normal to him he'll make more of his layups and foul less.

Just another game where he showed improvement in some areas. I think his trajectory is very encouraging.

 

[Chris Craig]

He looked just as good as the numbers suggest. Even though he's had "bigger games" this was probably the game where he had the most efficient impact on the game. He still fouled too much and missed some layups that he rushed but his passing was on point and he played good defense that was only not great because he still hasn't figured out how physical he can be. Maybe if he starts finishing better at the hoop, he'll just get a reputation for being a physical player in the upcoming years and like a much more gifted PatBev get away with basically not getting called for shit that others get called for. More likely the game still has him too excited and when it gets more normal to him he'll make more of his layups and foul less.

Just another game where he showed improvement in some areas. I think his trajectory is very encouraging.

Just gotta build confidence. He's gotta work past the deer in the headlights and get to where he knows what to do in a given situation and is confident doing it.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Don't we want the L anyway?? Shouldn't we wish all of our losses are by two points for the learning experience? Sure, it looks to be a bad call, but what happened to all the people claiming that it's not about the wins this year?

Principles matter though. Can’t show the league Portland just lays down in such a judgmental adversity.

 

[beast blazer]

Have you seen the play? The whole thing happens in about two seconds. I’d love to see some closeup video, but it looks to me like SGA and Williams throw on the trap by rushing Brogdon. He cradles the ball and turns, appearing to me to be yelling for a timeout, meanwhile being raked across the face by SGA, which then causes Brogdon to drop the ball and take a dribble. There’s no time to do what you suggest.

But nothing forced him to take a 2nd dribble.

 

[e_blazer]

But nothing forced him to take a 2nd dribble.

Having your face gouged tends to distract thought processes…especially if you think you’ve already called time out.

 

[blazerfan11]

Why didn't Malcolm Brogdon call a timeout?

Did anyone ask that to Billups and/or Brogdon?

When Brogdon knew he was trapped and wasn't getting a foul whistle he should have called timeout immediately.

I don't understand why you'd wait to have your coach do it. What if the coach is on the other end of the court?

 

[blazerfan11]

Having your face gouged tends to distract thought processes…especially if you think you’ve already called time out.

You think you've called a timeout? Did he?

 

[RR7]

Why didn't Malcolm Brogdon call a timeout?

Did anyone ask that to Billups and/or Brogdon?

When Brogdon knew he was trapped and wasn't getting a foul whistle he should have called timeout immediately.

I don't understand why you'd wait to have your coach do it. What if the coach is on the other end of the court?

Brogdon said he did. It appeared he did as well.