Game Thread 2023-24 GAME #48 - BLAZERS VS BUCKS - JANUARY 31, 2024 - WEDNESDAY - 7:00 PM PST - ROOT, ESPN

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SharpeScooterShooter said:
what if he really wanted us to stay and would have if we traded the pick, even if the trade didn’t net us an all star caliber player? He can’t say he would have rather stayed now. That would look really bad for Milwaukie. But what if, inside he holds beef because that is what he really wanted, was told that would happen and then it didn’t?

for the record, I think Joe did the best he could, but just sayin…
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yeah....I can't know for sure what Cronin said to Dame, but I think clearly that Dame feels Cronin lied (subjective) to him and did so over an extended period of time. If what Cronin said to Dame matches what Cronin said publicly, for months, then there is probably a substantial conflict between Cronin's words and actions; at least there would be from Dame's perspective

Dame himself said he understood using the 7th pick on Sharpe in 2022 and that bringing in that rookie didn't change his mind about staying. But it was pretty obvious that Dame expected the Blazers to use that 3rd pick as leverage in a trade; and I have a hard time seeing Dame holding that belief based upon nothing rather than discussions with Cronin. Using the 3rd pick on another 19 year old, and a PG at that, was the back-breaking straw

that doesn't mean Cronin didn't choose the best path forward from his perspective. But I think it may have been he knew Dame did not want to leave Portland, at all, and may have planned and acted to force Dame's hand....and Dame knows this and resents it
 
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julius said:
Watching the Bucks play doesn't exactly make me think they're a favorite to win the title. Their defense is bad (and Doc is overrated) and they still are not using Dame correctly.
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Its kinda hard to watch because my initial reaction to him going to the Bucks was " Yes! One or Two rings for sure for Dame!!! They don't even look like a finals team let alone a fav to win it all. Id just love Dame to get a ring or two and then come back and retire here(hopefully with new ownership in place).
 
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SharpeScooterShooter said:
Its kinda hard to watch because my initial reaction to him going to the Bucks was " Yes! One or Two rings for sure for Dame!!! They don't even look like a finals team let alone a fav to win it all. Id just love Dame to get a ring or two and then come back and retire here(hopefully with new ownership in place).
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Personally I don't care if he wins a title, unless it's with the Blazers. Ideally he would've been able to have a GM that wasn't an insufferable idiot (Olshey), but I'll be happy if he comes back as the backup to Scoot after the 27 season (I just personally doubt he will).
 
julius said:
Personally I don't care if he wins a title, unless it's with the Blazers. Ideally he would've been able to have a GM that wasn't an insufferable idiot (Olshey), but I'll be happy if he comes back as the backup to Scoot after the 27 season (I just personally doubt he will).
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At this point, with hindsight vision, if all Blazer fans aren't universally Anti Olshey, I don't know what to say. The guy ruined Dames prime. And with an egocentric attitude about it as well. Fuck that guy... What used car dealership is he running these days? And this is coming form someone who tried to give him time and the benefit of the doubt.
 
julius said:
Watching the Bucks play doesn't exactly make me think they're a favorite to win the title. Their defense is bad (and Doc is overrated) and they still are not using Dame correctly.
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I have been watching the Bucks quite a bit this year. At times yes they seem to falter but not near as much as they seem to dominate the other team. My feel on that game last night is there was a team that was really motivated (Blazers) and a team that was kind of out of sorts with all the fanfare (Bucks).
Beating the Bucks in a 7 game series with all the weapons they have will be very tough. Remember they have Dame and he will win them a game or two. They also have Giannis and he will also win them a game or two. Then they have Middleton who has shown to be effective in the playoffs as well as Portis who for some unknown reason seems to just will that team to wins at times?
The Bucks are contenders without question in my mind.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
If I never watch another game on ESPN it will be too many.
They had so many commercials that my recording ran out of time with 20 seconds left.
I’m on the boycott ESPN bandwagon. Fuck them with a pitchfork…
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It’s not ESPN. It’s your TV provider. YouTubeTV records the whole game no matter how long it is.
 
KingSpeed said:
It’s not ESPN. It’s your TV provider. YouTubeTV records the whole game no matter how long it is.
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How does the tv provider control ESPN deciding to schedule another game in front of this one and then stay with it until the end? Denying the MUCH larger fan base the introductions to maybe the most important game this year in the NW?

How does my tv provider control to 5-7 commercials every break compared to the standard 4 commercials root has? Yes, the recording length sucks and we often have to record the show after to ensure we don't miss endings, which I fully admit I failed to do, but its typically not an issue with Root and their standard 4 commercials/2 minute breaks.
 
kjironman1 said:
I have been watching the Bucks quite a bit this year. At times yes they seem to falter but not near as much as they seem to dominate the other team. My feel on that game last night is there was a team that was really motivated (Blazers) and a team that was kind of out of sorts with all the fanfare (Bucks).
Beating the Bucks in a 7 game series with all the weapons they have will be very tough. Remember they have Dame and he will win them a game or two. They also have Giannis and he will also win them a game or two. Then they have Middleton who has shown to be effective in the playoffs as well as Portis who for some unknown reason seems to just will that team to wins at times?
The Bucks are contenders without question in my mind.
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Also the second game with a new coach.

I expect that team to heavily lean on pick and rolls/pops with Dame and BroLo to free up Giannis or get other shooters completely wide open looks or obviously get scoring out of that primary action. I expect them to run a bunch of pick and rolls with Dame and Giannis. I think fairly quickly you'll stop seeing Giannis setting things up in the half court. He'll be the ball handler on the fast breaks and secondary breaks and then if those get stopped they'll reset by getting Dame the ball. All of that will give Giannis more energy on defense. All of it will also give the Bucks a better chance of scoring at a very high rate which will allow them to set their defense more often.
 
The shortest-tenured coach in NBA history is the late Jerry Tarkanian of the San Antonio Spurs, with only 20 games under his belt in the NBA. Tarkanian was more well-known for being a college basketball coach, but did coach 20 games for the Spurs in 1992.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
The shortest-tenured coach in NBA history is the late Jerry Tarkanian of the San Antonio Spurs, with only 20 games under his belt in the NBA. Tarkanian was more well-known for being a college basketball coach, but did coach 20 games for the Spurs in 1992.
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Did anyone other than the Bucks front office think this was a good hire?

And they could have backed off when people were immediately laughing at the report.
 
beast crnjo said:
Dame doesn't really have the right to be bitter in my view. He demanded a trade, we traded him to a top team.
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Hard for me to say how someone is allowed to feel, especially without knowing the behind the scenes details.

If he wanted to stay in Portland and was promised the Blazers were going to go all-in, I could see how it might be bummed with how things turned out. If he was promised he would be traded to his preferred destination if he ever wanted out, and Milwaukee, wasn't that, I could see how he wouldn't be thrilled.

So tough to make a strong judgement without knowing more information. I'm not bitter towards Dame, that's for sure.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Did anyone other than the Bucks front office think this was a good hire?

And they could have backed off when people were immediately laughing at the report.
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no clue. Just posted what I found when I searched for shorting coaching tenure. Wasn’t meant to be in favor or against anything.
 
Wow, what a night it was. Amazing atmosphere, great game and fun night. The arena was hyped and electric! I haven’t seen Moda bumping like that since the 4OT playoff game vs Denver in 2019. It was a perfect celebration of Dame and all he’s done for the organization and city.

It was also my first time seeing Giannis in person and he is impressive. On TV it looks like he’s going so hard but live he makes it look so easy and effortless (except shooting free throws). One of my favorite parts of the night was a large part of the arena counting him down at the free throw line.

I was debating whether to fly in for the game or not, but I’m definitely glad I did. Once in a lifetime opportunity.

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I'm pretty sure Dame would not feel the need to contact either Joe or Jody.
The broadcast did however cut to both Joe and Jody during introductions and both were giving him a standing ovation with everyone else. IMO that was good enough for me.
 
beast crnjo said:
Rick Adelman, 0 titles. And he was a good coach.
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Rick got robbed in the most obvious fix of a playoff series in any sport ever. Including boxing. They had the best team in 2002, but the fucking Lakers were the chosen ones. Just like in 2000.
 
I just read the Officials report for this game. The Bucks kinda got jobbed, there was about 3-4 calls that favored the Blazers. Blame the refs Milwaukee! Now go pay that luxury tax.
 
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