Game Thread 2023-24 Game #7 - BLAZERS VS GRIZZLIES - NOVEMBER 5, 2023 - SUNDAY - 6:00 PM PST - ROOT

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Whyachi said:
where's the Yoda emoji on this thing ?
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blazerkor said:
Not much. Rob didn't twist the knee and it didn't buckle, he just hit the deck and I didn't even see him bang it. So to me given his history if what he did tore his meniscus that's really a bad sign for him. I think it's more likely a pinched meniscus or a bone bruise but both of those wouldn't necessarily keep him out of action but are pretty bad for him too because it just means that knee is has no cushion or in technical terms is very arthritic at 26 years old. Honestly we'll just have to wait to hear from the team but I'm betting the team will say he's fine and might just need a little rest.
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He got up and from what I watched he knew he was done. It's like he didn't even question it. He knew. That makes me feel like this will be longer term. Again this is just reading what I watched but even the "Doctor Lady" (I love writing that Tin Cup Ref) looked like she was worried and just told him to go back to the locker room.
 
BonesJones said:
The Blazers have some crazy offensive lulls in the 4th quarter. In all three of Portland's home games:

vs. ORL - 4 points in the first 9 minutes of the 4th quarter
vs. MEM - 4 points in the first 7 minutes of the 4th quater
vs. MEM - 2 points in 5+the final 8:22 of game time

Problem is - This Blazers team had really bad 4th quarter lulls last season with a more talented offensive unit. So this problem seems to transcend rosters with a new squad this year.

So what's the common denominator? The offensive structure looks exactly the same as it did last year despite the difference in personnel. The common denominator is Chauncey.
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So fire another coach seems to be your conclusion. Are they supposed to fire the GM too this time?
Seems like both you and Hoops take honest questions from people in the tone of "Snark". I assure you those are not. I assume from both of your stances on the way the trade was handled you want changes made?
Maybe it's just sell the team Jody?
 
kjironman1 said:
So fire another coach seems to be your conclusion. Are they supposed to fire the GM too this time?
Seems like both you and Hoops take honest questions from people in the tone of "Snark". I assure you those are not. I assume from both of your stances on the way the trade was handled you want changes made?
Maybe it's just sell the team Jody?
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What does HoopsJock have to do with what you're responding to?

The trade? I'm simply talking about the basletball being played.

Why are you responding to my comment with something completely unrelated including someone completely uninvolved?
 
A big problem with the Blazers last year was blowing late leads. My biggest reason to question Billups. I hope last night was aberration and not harbinger.
 
The offense was abysmal in the last 8 minutes. No FGs and only 2 FTs. Brogdon was forcing a ton. Ayton missed some shots he normally makes.

Memphis got hot, but what bothered me is that there was no adjustment. They made one little switch, but basically let them run the same thing over and over again without any changes.

Losing is going to happen. As for YEARS, sometimes it is HOW they lose that is baffling.
 
The season is still early and we’ve been missing a couple players. This is year three of the Joe, Chauncey and tanking/ re-engineering. First without Dolla. If we can keep playing with energy on both ends, pushing the ball, improved rebounding, and getting results from the bench, we will take a positive step. Brog mentioned they are building on chemistry and it looks like Chauncey will go 9-10 deep in his rotation. That will help, imo. You cant say Scoot or Shae need more consistent minutes without giving Camara, Walker, Williams, Mays, Tisse, role minutes. We are deeper, imo.
 
BonesJones said:
What does HoopsJock have to do with what you're responding to?

The trade? I'm simply talking about the basletball being played.

Why are you responding to my comment with something completely unrelated including someone completely uninvolved?
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The question was
“So fire another coach seems to be your conclusion? Are they supposed to fire the GM as well?” Then I went on to add a question about if the team should be sold?
They are there.
 
TBpup said:
The offense was abysmal in the last 8 minutes. No FGs and only 2 FTs. Brogdon was forcing a ton. Ayton missed some shots he normally makes.

Memphis got hot, but what bothered me is that there was no adjustment. They made one little switch, but basically let them run the same thing over and over again without any changes.

Losing is going to happen. As for YEARS, sometimes it is HOW they lose that is baffling.
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THAT'S SOME QUALITY TANKING!
 
kjironman1 said:
The question was
“So fire another coach seems to be your conclusion? Are they supposed to fire the GM as well?” Then I went on to add a question about if the team should be sold?
They are there.
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Technically this coach was not hired by this GM, so the cleansing of all things Neil is not complete. There’s still Neil Olstank left on the team.
 
Last night was an extreme example of what we're going to see a lot of this year: the other team digging in on defense and shutting down a Blazers offense that has talent, but no certified go-to player who can be counted on to right the ship when things are going south. It's typical of young teams, even ones that have guys who will eventually become one of those go-to guys.

Rebuilds are painful.
 
e_blazer said:
Last night was an extreme example of what we're going to see a lot of this year: the other team digging in on defense and shutting down a Blazers offense that has talent, but no certified go-to player who can be counted on to right the ship when things are going south. It's typical of young teams, even ones that have guys who will eventually become one of those go-to guys.

Rebuilds are painful.
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Yes but we didn’t try anything. The offense was basic and easy to stop. Same with the defense. The Grizz ran the exact same pick and roll with Bane and JJJ over and over and over and we did nothing to change or adjust. We just let it happen. We stuck with drop coverage the entire 4th quarter and it was a large reason why we lost.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yes but we didn’t try anything. The offense was basic and easy to stop. Same with the defense. The Grizz ran the exact same pick and roll with Bane and JJJ over and over and over and we did nothing to change or adjust. We just let it happen. We stuck with drop coverage the entire 4th quarter and it was a large reason why we lost.
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I'm not saying that I'm happy with the coaching staff's lack of ability to help stem the tide. I yelled at my TV as much as the next temporarily insane Blazers' fan. Just saying that there are going to be a lot of these nights.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Technically this coach was not hired by this GM, so the cleansing of all things Neil is not complete. There’s still Neil Olstank left on the team.
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Yeah but the guy who was asked that question has been on record on a number of topics.
He or his partner won’t give a straight answer on anything and they know they won’t.
Of course they have their fans that figure they know everything.
He will continue to try to muddy the waters so he doesn’t have to go on record again. It hasn’t worked out well so far.
 
e_blazer said:
I'm not saying that I'm happy with the coaching staff's lack of ability to help stem the tide. I yelled at my TV as much as the next temporarily insane Blazers' fan. Just saying that there are going to be a lot of these nights.
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The question that I have is this:

Is this a systemic issue or are the players not listening/executing?

If it’s systemic, that’s concerning that we can’t make basic adjustments when a team is cramming a PNR down our throats.

If it’s the players, that is ALSO concerning because that means that they’re not listening to a Chauncey or they don’t respect him. He should be benching anyone that isn’t executing his plan.

All that to say, I think it’s systemic. I think it’s weird and annoying that Chauncey keeps saying he wants to run and push the tempo and trap and press and yet we do none of those things. So either he isn’t following through or the players aren’t listening. I’d love to know which it is.
 
kjironman1 said:
Yeah but the guy who was asked that question has been on record on a number of topics.
He or his partner won’t give a straight answer on anything and they know they won’t.
Of course they have their fans that figure they know everything.
He will continue to try to muddy the waters so he doesn’t have to go on record again. It hasn’t worked out well so far.
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I appreciate you asking a solution oriented question.

Of course it would be great to have a better coach, run plays that all ended in assisted dunks, and have no lapses in defense. The reality of the situation is we have an inexperienced team, that isn't overly talented, and the coach to match it. My expectations have been tempered as soon as Stotts was let go. I do not believe Billups is an amazing coach, but at this time, I see no reason in letting him go. Unless something goes totally sideways, I'm comofortable giving him until the end of the 2024 calendar year to prove his worth.
 
Tince said:
I appreciate you asking a solution oriented question.

Of course it would be great to have a better coach, run plays that all ended in assisted dunks, and have no lapses in defense. The reality of the situation is we have an inexperienced team, that isn't overly talented, and the coach to match it. My expectations have been tempered as soon as Stotts was let go. I do not believe Billups is an amazing coach, but at this time, I see no reason in letting him go. Unless something goes totally sideways, I'm comofortable giving him until the end of the 2024 calendar year to prove his worth.
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Yeah he's a young coach and should be considered that. I'm looking for growth on his part as well.
Again just like pretty much always "The Coach" gets way more credit for things that go well than he should and the same goes for that things that don't.
If the team quits on Billups then yeah he should be let go. Personally I've only seen that twice in all my years watching the Blazers. PJ Carlisimo and Nate McMillian. Both situations got ugly.
I asked about the GM because this is the position that seems to be getting a bunch of praise right now but I happen to know his partner went all in on blasting Cronin. I was wondering if i could get a position. There are also a few rumors Billups didn't want to continue trying to build around Dame. Also that Dame didn't want to trade for Ayton.
The crazy part is looking back right now at what everyone was saying just 2 months ago is almost comical. The big one is that he screwed over the Bucks by trading Jrue to the Celtics. Jrue just put up 18 points, 9 redounds and 10 assists vs the Nets. The Celtics lead the entire Eastern Conference right now.
What a tangled web we weave.

As far as Jody goes. I think it's pretty consistent with most avid fans that they want the team sold but sold to a good owner. Not just sold to anyone. That might be what needs to happen first.

Bottom line i think we are in for a number of years of this rebuild and Coach/GM/Ownership transfer. Quite a few until there will be solid playoff teams coming out of Portland unless something really good happens.
 
e_blazer said:
Yeah, I think that's a safe prediction.
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I don’t know. We’ve played pretty well the last 4 games until the 26-2 run. Kings have been playing without Fox. Lakers are a mess. I could def see us winning at least one of the next two. Won both and we’re over .500.
 
I wonder if Rob Williams injury deflated the Blazers? Portland went jump shot mode afterwards, no aggressive takes.
 
KingSpeed said:
I don’t know. We’ve played pretty well the last 4 games until the 26-2 run. Kings have been playing without Fox. Lakers are a mess. I could def see us winning at least one of the next two. Won both and we’re over .500.
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Somebody please ask this kid for me, that if the Lakers are a “mess”, what the hell are the Blazers?
 
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