Event 2023 NBA ALL STAR WEEKEND - FEBRUARY 17-19 2023 (FRIDAY - SUNDAY ) TNT

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No one wants to play this game during the season or after a long NBA season. It just doesn't make dollars and cents and rest those aching muscles and give you time at home with your families.

Probably the best thing the NBA could do is some kind of expanded skills weekend and incentivize it with a nice cash bonus or at least a healthy donation to the non-profit of the winning player's choice.
 
PCmor7 said:
No one wants to play this game during the season or after a long NBA season. It just doesn't make dollars and cents and rest those aching muscles and give you time at home with your families.

Probably the best thing the NBA could do is some kind of expanded skills weekend and incentivize it with a nice cash bonus or at least a healthy donation to the non-profit of the winning player's choice.
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Nobody would watch that.
 
SLC has no more restaurants than PDX and Im not even sure more hotels overall. I used to cover Utah is nice but limited in things to do but their political leaders, owners and people have stepped up in concert to see their town to the NBA. Portlands political leaders, ones and fans don't seem in concert enough to bring about such an event. Shit, we have the Gorge the coast the mountains, bend and Seattle or just a few hours away.
 
Natebishop3 said:
These guys play a ton of games in the offseason. I think that's a bullshit excuse if that's what they're saying.
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I disagree. They play games in the offseason to stay in shape and work on skills. That's not a necessity during the season. The excuse makes tons of sense. The timing and/or the fact that it has no actual significance for the year is the problem.
 
Hoopguru said:
SLC has no more restaurants than PDX and Im not even sure more hotels overall. I used to cover Utah is nice but limited in things to do but their political leaders, owners and people have stepped up in concert to see their town to the NBA. Portlands political leaders, ones and fans don't seem in concert enough to bring about such an event. Shit, we have the Gorge the coast the mountains, bend and Seattle or just a few hours away.
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SLC has about twice the number of hotel-rooms that Portland has. I would agree about the restaurants tho.

I think that SLC is somewhat more of a tourist destination than Portland, first, it is a center for Mormons and second, it has a lot of winter sports activities, so it's not a surprise it has a lot more hotel rooms.
 
andalusian said:
SLC has about twice the number of hotel-rooms that Portland has. I would agree about the restaurants tho.

I think that SLC is somewhat more of a tourist destination than Portland, first, it is a center for Mormons and second, it has a lot of winter sports activities, so it's not a surprise it has a lot more hotel rooms.
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And....................it's gotten so progressive that you can now actually get a beer before 5 pm...........
 
andalusian said:
SLC has about twice the number of hotel-rooms that Portland has. I would agree about the restaurants tho.

I think that SLC is somewhat more of a tourist destination than Portland, first, it is a center for Mormons and second, it has a lot of winter sports activities, so it's not a surprise it has a lot more hotel rooms.
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So you don't think Portland is a legit tourist destination? I disagree
 
Hoopguru said:
So you don't think Portland is a legit tourist destination? I disagree
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I think it is less than SLC for the reasons mentioned above. SLC is a religious center for an entire sect of religion, just by that, it will get a lot of traffic. Add the winter sports element and this explains it.

Portland, as lovely as it is, has less a of a standout feature that draws people, which is why there are less hotel rooms.

Big cities become tourist destinations if they have lovely weather related features (warm weather and beach or skiing resorts), great entertainment centers (Las Vegas, for example) or historical / cultural attractions. I guess they can also have a lot of rooms simply if they are very big.

SLC has two of these (cultural attraction for a subset of the population and winter ski). Portland has none. It's not a surprise that SLC has twice as many hotel rooms.

There is no politics in building hotels generally, if the market supports it, the hotels will be built because people can make money on it. Despite the fact that Portland (the city) is 2-3 times bigger than SLC, it has 1/2 the hotel rooms. That's your answer right there.
 
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andalusian said:
Despite the fact that Portland (the city) is 2-3 times bigger than SLC, it has 1/2 the hotel rooms. That's your answer right there.
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Yeah, but think of all the people we can house on the streets. Cardboard boxes are cheaper than Monopoly hotels... SLC and all their cleanliness can't match that.
 
Bingo Bango said:
Good Lord. What a ridiculous rule. Another reason not to watch the game.
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How can something like an allstar game make people like you so angry? Did you actually think you were going to sit down and watch a pure game of basketball? You people just set yourself up for such a gigantic let down….even during the allstar break? Amazing.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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The era of player empowerment is slowing creeping into the era of player entitlement, all under Adam Silver's watch.

SGA, a first time All-Star, was asked how do they fix the All-Star Game. His answer...pay me more. The honor of being recognized as an All-Star has seemingly become a burden.

In the past, All-Stars were required to be in town on the Friday of All-Star Weekend. According to Brian Windhorst, there were numerous players that didn't even arrive until Sunday.

And the ratings are the direct result of player apathy. The NBA doesn't care, the players don't care, why should the fans care?
 
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OneSport3 said:
The era of player empowerment is slowing creeping into the era of player entitlement, all under Adam Silver's watch.

SGA, a first time All-Star, was asked how do they fix the All-Star Game. His answer...pay me more. The honor of being recognized as an All-Star has seemingly become a burden.

In the past, All-Stars were required to be in town on the Friday of All-Star Weekend. According to Brian Windhorst, there were numerous players that didn't even arrive until Sunday.

And the ratings are the direct result of player apathy. The NBA doesn't care, the players don't care, why should the fans care?
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I would guess a lot of that is a one-year blip. NBA players aren't itching to spend extra time in SLC. The biggest draw for All-Star participants has long been the party atmosphere...

But, some of it might also be the extended All-Star break backfiring. There's as much incentive to make it a mini-vacation now as there is to attend another game.
 
handiman said:
I would guess a lot of that is a one-year blip. NBA players aren't itching to spend extra time in SLC. The biggest draw for All-Star participants has long been the party atmosphere...

But, some of it might also be the extended All-Star break backfiring. There's as much incentive to make it a mini-vacation now as there is to attend another game.
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I think you are right on this. If it was in Miami or Vegas or lets say New York/LA you can bet players would be quicker to get there.
I'm wondering if the NBA will try doing the All Star game in Hawaii at some point? Maybe even Europe?
 
The NFL's All-Star game (The Pro Bowl) was flag football this year.

The NBA season is a grind, if the players want a game that is more fun and high scoring then let them.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The NFL's All-Star game (The Pro Bowl) was flag football this year.
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They only did that because the Pro Bowl was long ago pronounced dead, and no one cared if they made it worse. Is that really the model we want to follow for the All-Star game?
 
handiman said:
They only did that because the Pro Bowl was long ago pronounced dead, and no one cared if they made it worse. Is that really the model we want to follow for the All-Star game?
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Playin tournament, soon a mid-season mini tourney thing, looks like the NBA is prepared to replace the all-star with games that count.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The NFL's All-Star game (The Pro Bowl) was flag football this year.

The NBA season is a grind, if the players want a game that is more fun and high scoring then let them.
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The game was not fun and they didn’t look like they were having much fun. There used to be some pride in demonstrating that you are the best of the best. This year, they were just standing around. Tatum’s record is meaningless. Any player could’ve scored 54. Kobe and MJ took it seriously. So did AI and McGrady. All Star MVP was a real accomplishment. Also the way they score the game now is way too confusing for a casual fan. They keep starting at 0-0 at the start of each quarter. How does some guy watching at a bar even follow that? And what is the entertainment value of 5 guys literally standing still as Ja Morant drives into the paint and dunks? It wasn’t always like this.
 
KingSpeed said:
The game was not fun and they didn’t look like they were having much fun. There used to be some pride in demonstrating that you are the best of the best. This year, they were just standing around. Tatum’s record is meaningless. Any player could’ve scored 54. Kobe and MJ took it seriously. So did AI and McGrady. All Star MVP was a real accomplishment. Also the way they score the game now is way too confusing for a casual fan. They keep starting at 0-0 at the start of each quarter. How does some guy watching at a bar even follow that? And what is the entertainment value of 5 guys literally standing still as Ja Morant drives into the paint and dunks? It wasn’t always like this.
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All-star game MVP gets 7 fouls a game for the rest of the season, including playoffs.

#ProblemSolved
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The NFL's All-Star game (The Pro Bowl) was flag football this year.

The NBA season is a grind, if the players want a game that is more fun and high scoring then let them.
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If the NBA only cares about the players having fun then so be it. I thought it was for the fans, and the fans clearly hate the current state of all-star weekend. It's really unwatchable.
 
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