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Bingo Bango said:
Some teams have rings, others have dreams. Portland is forever in the latter group. That we’re considering tanking for a whole season to get a 33 percent chance of drafting this guy is all you need to know.
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There’s difference between the organization considering tanking and the fans wanting their team to tank. The Rockets, Spurs, and Pistons all will be tanking, what group are they in? Surely, not forever in the latter like us right?

Not that I’m in favor of tanking starting game 1. Just think that’s kind of a wild statement to make considering POR has a ring while other teams in the projected lotto like ORL, CHA, UTA, etc don’t have a ring.
 
I can't remember the last NBA team that "tanked" that wasn't actually trying to rebuild. There have been MLB teams that tanked with no intent to rebuild, but not any NBA teams I can think of.

IMHO, the term "tanking" is grossly over-used. If a team makes a move to get better, even if it doesn't work out, that isn't tanking. That term should be limited to teams (EG Oakland A's or the old Montreal Expos) who intentionally lost games because they believed it would improve their financial bottom line.
 
BankTeller said:
Victor/anyone/everyone pieces = Dynasty

That’s why half the NBA fanbase wants their team to tank.
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It seems a little soon to count on a tall skinny center for a dynasty. They often get injured.
 
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Bingo Bango said:
Some teams have rings, others have dreams. Portland is forever in the latter group. That we’re considering tanking for a whole season to get a 33 percent chance of drafting this guy is all you need to know.
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I like how you make it sound like this is the teams thoughts and not just people on a message board. Good work.
 


The next Zubac - except Zach is 7’4”

Elite rebounder

His lateral quickness will be an issue at the next level. His feel/iq is there though.

2RP target.
 
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Fez Forthright said:


The next Zubac - except Zach is 7’4”

Elite rebounder

His lateral quickness will be an issue at the next level. His feel/iq is there though.

2RP target.
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Reminds me of the guy named Haas they had a couple years ago who was a giant like that. But he never made it to the NBA
 
MickZagger said:
Reminds me of the guy named Haas they had a couple years ago who was a giant like that. But he never made it to the NBA
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I had said the same, but then deleted it because Haas never put up numbers like what Edey is doing.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I had said the same, but then deleted it because Haas never put up numbers like what Edey is doing.
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Ha, I saw your original post, and then when this one was posted was like hey, someone just mentioned... oh...
 
RR7 said:
Ha, I saw your original post, and then when this one was posted was like hey, someone just mentioned... oh...
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I realized it was a lazy comparison... which should be expected since I know nothing about basketball.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I realized it was a lazy comparison... which should be expected since I know nothing about basketball.
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Wait a minute? If that was lazy and you know nothing about basketball then that means I'm Lazy and I know Noth...... well okay then.
 
Watching TCU @ Kansas right now, and I really like this Jalen Wilson on Kansas. Apparently he's projected as a late 1st/early 2nd, but he seems like he can do everything.
 
Jarace is way ahead for his age positionally as a defender. Knows where to be in help, get's there early and closes space really quickly. Probably his only real standout athletic skill though. Solid everywhere else but just doesn't jump off screen to me otherwise.

Need to see more to get a better read on how his feet are. They don't seem the quickest and I've seen him struggle with his recovery steps when he gets beat off the dribble.

Offensively he makes really quick decisions and seems to have good touch around the basket, but have questions about everything else.
 
JDC said:
Jarace is way ahead for his age positionally as a defender. Knows where to be in help, get's there early and closes space really quickly. Probably his only real standout athletic skill though. Solid everywhere else but just doesn't jump off screen to me otherwise.

Need to see more to get a better read on how his feet are. They don't seem the quickest and I've seen him struggle with his recovery steps when he gets beat off the dribble.

Offensively he makes really quick decisions and seems to have good touch around the basket, but have questions about everything else.
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I agreed with pretty much everything you said. GG Jackson seem to be a more fluid athlete but he has his struggles too. I like daron Holmes. He got a little bit of Nic Claxton to his game. He should be a late 1st rounder so I think that’s really good value for him
 
Anthony Black is someone I would be really excited to draft.

He fits in that Josh Giddey/Dyson Daniels/Lonzo Ball mold. 6’7 PG who’s a good defender and can run an offense. He doesn’t have the kind of athleticism that will launch him into the top 5, so if we are in the later half of the top 10, he might be there for us.

For those who aren’t convinced that Ant and Dame will ever work, adding Black to back up Dame or Sharpe at PG/SG might be the move.

Sharpe, Thybulle, and Black can all be multi-positional defenders at the wing position.
 
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JDC said:
Jarace is way ahead for his age positionally as a defender. Knows where to be in help, get's there early and closes space really quickly. Probably his only real standout athletic skill though. Solid everywhere else but just doesn't jump off screen to me otherwise.

Need to see more to get a better read on how his feet are. They don't seem the quickest and I've seen him struggle with his recovery steps when he gets beat off the dribble.

Offensively he makes really quick decisions and seems to have good touch around the basket, but have questions about everything else.
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How do you feel about Baba Miller?




The shooting splits look terrible at FSU but he missed 16 games due to suspension and he’s rail think currently. But he has shown good defensive fundamentals in his games played. 6’11, 7-2 wingspan, and moves really fluidly for someone that size. If he doesn’t go back to school, he’ll probably be a mid 2nd rounder due to how bad his college season has been, but his defensive potential and ability to pass makes him so intriguing to me. It is essentially like drafting Ousmane Dieng, we just wouldn’t have to spend a lotto pick on him.

I really couldn’t tell you why I’m not sold on Walker offensively, but right now I’m just not. Brandon Miller is someone in that range that I like a lot more right now.
 
BankTeller said:
How do you feel about Baba Miller?




The shooting splits look terrible at FSU but he missed 16 games due to suspension and he’s rail think currently. But he has shown good defensive fundamentals in his games played. 6’11, 7-2 wingspan, and moves really fluidly for someone that size. If he doesn’t go back to school, he’ll probably be a mid 2nd rounder due to how bad his college season has been, but his defensive potential and ability to pass makes him so intriguing to me. It is essentially like drafting Ousmane Dieng, we just wouldn’t have to spend a lotto pick on him.

I really couldn’t tell you why I’m not sold on Walker offensively, but right now I’m just not. Brandon Miller is someone in that range that I like a lot more right now.
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Are you referring to Jarace Walker’s offense?
 
The best player in the country?

Zach Edey

22 ppg
13 rpg
41 PER

Ridiculous production. Historically good numbers across the board.

Over 7’5” in shoes, the thing that I like about him aside from his high bbiq is that he plays with a mean streak. Super aggressive.

He was just born in the wrong era - he’d be the #1
overall pick if this was 2001.
 
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Fez Forthright said:
The best player in the country?

Zach Edey

22 ppg
13 rpg
41 PER

Ridiculous production. Historically good numbers across the board.

Over 7’5” in shoes, the thing that I like about him aside from his high bbiq is that he plays with a mean streak. Super aggressive.

He was just born in the wrong era - he’d be the #1
overall pick if this was 2001.
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How is he defensively? I do like what I see from him offensively, but there’s no way this guy will keep up with guards. Teams will be hunting him for switches all game long if whoever drafts him is planning to play him over 15mpg.

I’d be curious where in round 2 he lands though.
 
damianlillard said:
I can see where you’re coming from. Walker got that Zach Collins vibe offensively. Like he does a lot of things decently, but nothing is elite about it. I actually prefer Taylor Hendricks from UCF over him
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Wow I’m watching Taylor Hendricks right now and he’s pretty impressive physically for someone who won’t even be 20 until November.

I like that he attacks the rim hard. I trust him to be a better shooter than Walked too he’s pretty much an 80% ft shooter.

Wonder what his wingspan and vertical will measure at. Also a full year younger than Miller. I’m excited to look into this guy more.
 
BankTeller said:
Wow I’m watching Taylor Hendricks right now and he’s pretty impressive physically for someone who won’t even be 20 until November.

I like that he attacks the rim hard. I trust him to be a better shooter than Walked too he’s pretty much an 80% ft shooter.

Wonder what his wingspan and vertical will measure at. Also a full year younger than Miller. I’m excited to look into this guy more.
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Agreed. He also block 1.8 a game compare to walker’s .9 a game meanwhile Walker get .2 more steal a game. This tell me that there isn’t much of a difference in their perimeter defense, but Hendricks is way better at protecting the rim. I just trust Hendricks more to be a valuable NBA player
 
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