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Strenuus said:
It's the only right choice to have reasonable expectations within the circumstances at play.

I laugh when people get mad about not getting the unrealistic expectation met. Might as well get mad at losing the Powerball every time. (Please use common sense before making the strawman).
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No one here is having unrealistic expectations. You’re thinking of the Wemby thread, this is the 2023 Draft thread lol.
 
1st pick-Ausar Thompson, Cason Wallace, GG Jackson, Jett Howard
2nd - Noah Clowney, Dereck Lively, Trayce Jackson-Davis, DaRon Holmes, Tristan Vukcevic, Caleb Love, Oscar Tshiebwe
 
cheesehoff said:
1st pick-Ausar Thompson, Cason Wallace, GG Jackson, Jett Howard
2nd - Noah Clowney, Dereck Lively, Trayce Jackson-Davis, DaRon Holmes, Tristan Vukcevic, Caleb Love, Oscar Tshiebwe
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If I see any reports about us being interested in GG Jackson with our lotto pick in June I legit will have a panick attack LOL.
 
GrandpaBlaze said:
Well….we do need a real backup PG, not a PG in name only (CJ, Ant).

Still, I’d rather draft for size.
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Anthony Black fits that role. Black would probably be the primary ball handler for us off the bench right away and he’s the size of Cade Cunningham.

Black isn’t as gifted of a shooter or scorer as Cunningham, but he plays defense and can handle the ball well. He makes good decisions and is probably one of the more NBA-ready players in the draft.

Black probably makes even more sense for us if we insist on running it back with Simons. We could sub Ant out early for Sharpe and play Ant when Black is also on the floor, but have Black be the primary facilitator. Ant as the primary ball handler makes us too stagnant on offense.

Between Giddey, Lamelo, Lonzo, Haliburton, Cunningham, etc, the league has a bunch of big guards who operate as PGs now.
 
BankTeller said:
Anthony Black fits that role. Black would probably be the primary ball handler for us off the bench right away and he’s the size of Cade Cunningham.

Black isn’t as gifted of a shooter or scorer as Cunningham, but he plays defense and can handle the ball well. He makes good decisions and is probably one of the more NBA-ready players in the draft.

Black probably makes even more sense for us if we insist on running it back with Simons. We could sub Ant out early for Sharpe and play Ant when Black is also on the floor, but have Black be the primary facilitator. Ant as the primary ball handler makes us too stagnant on offense.

Between Giddey, Lamelo, Lonzo, Haliburton, Cunningham, etc, the league has a bunch of big guards who operate as PGs now.
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He would be a great fit next to any combination of 2 guards of dame, Simons, and sharpe. I think he would really raise the floor of this team and even the ceiling a little
 
cheesehoff said:
1st pick-Ausar Thompson, Cason Wallace, GG Jackson, Jett Howard
2nd - Noah Clowney, Dereck Lively, Trayce Jackson-Davis, DaRon Holmes, Tristan Vukcevic, Caleb Love, Oscar Tshiebwe
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I would love Dereck Lively with our second pick. With a 7 foot 8 wingspan, he’s gonna be an elite rim protector. He also move well, so he can switch a little. Even though he mostly play around the rim on offense, he has a hidden skill of passing. He is the dynamic center we all have wanted
 
damianlillard said:
I would love Dereck Lively with our second pick. With a 7 foot 8 wingspan, he’s gonna be an elite rim protector. He also move well, so he can switch a little. Even though he mostly play around the rim on offense, he has a hidden skill of passing. He is the dynamic center we all have wanted
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If there are no high potential wings left on the board, Lively is who I go after as well.

Something about him makes me worry he will be another Willie Cauley-Stein though.
 
Im confused. Do we want to make the playoffs or not? The pick we owe Chicago that prevents us from including future picks in trades is what's confusing me.
 
Looking at various projected rough drafts, it seems like the first round looks like this:
1. Wemby (a center)
2. Scoot (a point)
3-30 nothing but wings

Where are the rebounding big men that we need? We just stocked up on a bazillion wings as it is!
 
Can the Blazers trade their Knicks pick to Chicago and finally alleviate themselves of Olshey's terrible Covington trade?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Looking at various projected rough drafts, it seems like the first round looks like this:
1. Wemby (a center)
2. Scoot (a point)
3-30 nothing but wings

Where are the rebounding big men that we need? We just stocked up on a bazillion wings as it is!
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Pretty much lol. I would consider Dereck Lively depending on who’s available at 20. He’s coming along nicely recently. Azoulas Tubelis would be awesome to get in the second round. He got some Domnatas Sabonis to his game
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Provided CHI is agreeable, yes.
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I think there is motivation on both sides to make a deal assuming New York doesn’t play its way into the top 4, since Orlando has Chicago’s pick from that godawful Vucevic trade and they need roster upgrades like we do.
 
Bad news that Wembanyama is now 7’5 in shoes having grown 2”. With his slender build, already, and the need to put on good, reasonable weight — this won’t help. 7’2 in shoes is up there. Hope he’s done as the last thing he needs in the NBA is more height.
 
inconceivable said:
Im confused. Do we want to make the playoffs or not? The pick we owe Chicago that prevents us from including future picks in trades is what's confusing me.
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In my opinion for our long term success it doesn't really matter. If we miss the playoffs we keep our pick and likely have the Knicks' pick. If we make the playoffs the pick conveys to Chicago and we would still presumably have the Knicks pick and could move forward having all of our picks available to deal. If we do miss the playoffs we would still have to get Chicago to take the protections off in order to use future picks.

Make the playoffs and we can deal the Knicks pick after we make it and the 2024, 2026, 2028 and 2030 firsts trying to build a contender around Dame

Miss the playoffs and we keep our pick. We would still likely have the Knicks pick. If we guarantee the Bulls the pick for 2024 then we have our pick, the Knicks', 2026, 2028 and 2030.

Anyway you cut it we should have five firsts to deal at the draft if that's the way we choose to go.

I'd love to see us win a bunch of games during the home stretch of this season because I always want us to win. I'd also love the excitement, even if the odds aren't great, of being to the Wemby lotto. The losses would suck but we'd have a chance.
 
blazerkor said:
In my opinion for our long term success it doesn't really matter. If we miss the playoffs we keep our pick and likely have the Knicks' pick. If we make the playoffs the pick conveys to Chicago and we would still presumably have the Knicks pick and could move forward having all of our picks available to deal. If we do miss the playoffs we would still have to get Chicago to take the protections off in order to use future picks.

Make the playoffs and we can deal the Knicks pick after we make it and the 2024, 2026, 2028 and 2030 firsts trying to build a contender around Dame

Miss the playoffs and we keep our pick. We would still likely have the Knicks pick. If we guarantee the Bulls the pick for 2024 then we have our pick, the Knicks', 2026, 2028 and 2030.

Anyway you cut it we should have five firsts to deal at the draft if that's the way we choose to go.

I'd love to see us win a bunch of games during the home stretch of this season because I always want us to win. I'd also love the excitement, even if the odds aren't great, of being to the Wemby lotto. The losses would suck but we'd have a chance.
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Thank you for the thorough explanation. Answered my question and then some. I was rooting for us to keep losing when it was clear our chances of winning the chip this year was slim, but now, I don't mind winning, esp when Dame is healthy
 
1. If the Blazers fail, then a lottery pick arrives in a good draft. To free up future picks for the POSSIBILITY of a big trade, ship off the Knicks’ pick (or numerous 2nds) so the debt is paid. #free_our_picks. And if you want to really swing away, add that lottery pick to a trade package.
2. If Portland makes the playoffs, the pick conveys, the future picks are free. The Knicks’ pick(s) is an asset to use, to package, to ship out Nurkic … to use in a package for the big trade.

The above is a path — a narrow one — for building around Dame, now.

There’s not much of a 3rd option to contention IMHO that includes Dame as a Blazer. Not being able to use future picks means getting outbid in big deals. Exactly no one wants to deal with finely crafted language on when picks may be included when other teams give firm commitments.

It doesn’t mean the elite SF deal gets done this summer, but getting what Cronin did means a big move is feasible.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
1. If the Blazers fail, then a lottery pick arrives in a good draft. To free up future picks for the POSSIBILITY of a big trade, ship off the Knicks’ pick (or numerous 2nds) so the debt is paid. #free_our_picks. And if you want to really swing away, add that lottery pick to a trade package.
2. If Portland makes the playoffs, the pick conveys, the future picks are free. The Knicks’ pick(s) is an asset to use, to package, to ship out Nurkic … to use in a package for the big trade.

The above is a path — a narrow one — for building around Dame, now.

There’s not much of a 3rd option to contention IMHO that includes Dame as a Blazer. Not being able to use future picks means getting outbid in big deals. Exactly no one wants to deal with finely crafted language on when picks may be included when other teams give firm commitments.

It doesn’t mean the elite SF deal gets done this summer, but getting what Cronin did means a big move is feasible.
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We need Philly to fizzle and Embiid ask for a trade. He'd be a great "push all chips" player to pair with Dame. I'f we're sacrificing the future, Pascal Siakam ain't ginna cut it
 
Big performance from Brandon Miller the other night. I saw a little KD at Texas in this performance. Seems like scouts aren’t bothered by his proximity to a shooting.

 
Samuel said:
Big performance from Brandon Miller the other night. I saw a little KD at Texas in this performance. Seems like scouts aren’t bothered by his proximity to a shooting.

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Good size at 6'9" as well. He likely goes Top-4 so we'd have to get lucky to get him.
 
TBpup said:
Good size at 6'9" as well. He likely goes Top-4 so we'd have to get lucky to get him.
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He seems a bit more developed than the Thompson twins. I could see him locking in at 3–but who knows.
 
Blazers might not draft a big man.
Portland has 2 former NBA point guards as coach 1 & 2. Portland seems to play in a style the coaches are most comfortable with. Guard oriented production through Small ball lineups.

The only way I see a rookie C getting extended PT is if Nurkic is next in line to be traded. I think the Blazers would be more comfortable drafting a true PG that can quickly learn the system.
 
I am guessing they’re trying to slide Badji in as a redshirt this year and sign him next year; Schmitz really likes him.

Standing 6-foot-11.5 barefoot, with a 7-foot-9 wingspan and elite feet for a player his size, Badji put a lid on the rim defensively for stretches, getting to shots few NBA centers could wipe away. His 3.2 blocks per 40 minutes wasn't indicative of his enormous impact around the rim. Badji is an ambidextrous shot-blocker whose reach and quick leaping ability make him a force as a defensive anchor when he's fully engaged. He even showed glimpses of verticality technique that we hadn't always seen from him in the past.

He's capable of stepping away from the rim defensively, too. His discipline and mechanics in pick-and-roll or switch situations need major work, but he has zero issue getting deep into a stance and staying with even the quickest guards. Overall, defensive discipline will be the focal point for Badji, but he has the type of versatility that NBA teams covet. It's easy to envision Badji playing a JaVale McGee, Mitchell Robinson or Hassan Whiteside type of role in the NBA.

That said, Badji struggles to catch the ball cleanly, make quick reads offensively and play to his strengths. Although we shouldn't fault him for wanting to show off his improved midrange stroke and post game in his first competition away from Barcelona in some time, he made a handful of questionable decisions. His back-to-the-basket footwork can be rigid, and he isn't that comfortable operating in dribble handoffs. He doesn't always run the floor consistently, either.

But with a strong frame, incredible length and elite run-and-jump athleticism, Badji could already hold his own physically in the NBA. He'll be one of only two NBA players with a wingspan 7-foot-9 or greater, joining Mo Bamba and Tacko Fall. Even with some of Badji's shortcomings and his limited role in Barcelona, it's difficult to envision all 30 teams passing on him twice. -- Schmitz
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Any of the top wings would fit in nicely. Even a guy like Anthony Black.
 
Samuel said:
I am guessing they’re trying to slide Badji in as a redshirt this year and sign him next year; Schmitz really likes him.



Any of the top wings would fit in nicely. Even a guy like Anthony Black.
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What is the link to that evaluation?
I'd like to see what he has to say about John Butler.... I don't personally have much hope for Butler turning into an NBA player.
 
Samuel said:
Big performance from Brandon Miller the other night. I saw a little KD at Texas in this performance. Seems like scouts aren’t bothered by his proximity to a shooting.

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Wow. I’m even more sold on tank now. We can still get to 5th. I still root for us to win cuz I can’t help it but a unilateral decision from Dame, Jody, and Joe to tank would not upset me at all.
 
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