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Bruh 41 wins? With this team? Vegas has us I think at 28? You'd say it's a disappointment if he went 12 games above a projection?

We will be lucky to get 30 wins and that'd be a successful year with this current iteration in this current timeline.
I think Vegas had us at 23 wins the year Stotts won 50 some games. When have the Blazers not been underrated in the preseason? People think Chauncey will tank but I don't think he wants to lose his job and I think he wants to coach in the playoffs. I think we'll surprise some teams.
 
It is a bit odd to be exited about a team I know is going to lose a lot of games.....but that is where I'm at. This team has been in decline for some time, getting worse every year and it's fun to at least have some hope things might get better in the future.
I am excited to see the era of "hero ball" end, and watch the team run a lot, Scoot distribute, and hopefully play better D.
 
I think Vegas had us at 23 wins the year Stotts won 50 some games. When have the Blazers not been underrated in the preseason? People think Chauncey will tank but I don't think he wants to lose his job and I think he wants to coach in the playoffs. I think we'll surprise some teams.

True.

But, terry was a seasoned coach.

We have a young AF team. We will surprise some teams yes, but I think expectations should be low on getting to .500. And that's fine. I'm looking 3 years down the road and that's exicting AF. And this year will be too. There's nothing to hate!
 
It is a bit odd to be exited about a team I know is going to lose a lot of games.....but that is where I'm at. This team has been in decline for some time, getting worse every year and it's fun to at least have some hope things might get better in the future.

Reminds me of 2005-2006 after we blew up the 1996-2005 team. We had some good young pieces, and turned those bad seasons into LaMarcus, Roy, etc. Yeah, we sucked but I had more fun watching that team than the years before it.
 
Uhhh you are comparing Scoot to Nolan smith and Jared bayless.
One is a generational PG who most say would’ve gone #1 in any other draft.
The other 2 fell in their drafts and did not even come close to Scoot.

We’re not trying to win
No...I'm saying the hype around Scoot is similar to the hype after summer league for Smith and Bayless and Scoot. Scoot is obviously more talented than the other guys but fans get hyped about rookies to the extreme at times and I want Scoot to earn that respect for something other than one game in summer league. If we lose games I hope we do it organically and not intentionally this season.
 
No...I'm saying the hype around Scoot is similar to the hype after summer league for Smith and Bayless and Scoot. Scoot is obviously more talented than the other guys but fans get hyped about rookies to the extreme at times and I want Scoot to earn that respect for something other than one game in summer league. If we lose games I hope we do it organically and not intentionally this season.

okay but brogdon is not starting over the franchise cornerstone
 
No...I'm saying the hype around Scoot is similar to the hype after summer league for Smith and Bayless and Scoot. Scoot is obviously more talented than the other guys but fans get hyped about rookies to the extreme at times and I want Scoot to earn that respect for something other than one game in summer league. If we lose games I hope we do it organically and not intentionally this season.
That's a very bad comparison. The hype around Scoot is national hype over several years. Before Wemby appeared, Scoot was projected as the #1 pick.

The best Blazer comparison is Greg Oden.
 
That's a very bad comparison. The hype around Scoot is national hype over several years.

The best Blazer comparison is Greg Oden.
You can criticize my comparisons. I'm criticizing your finality concerning the starting role early in the season. Scoot is not the number one pick...Oden was. Different draft entirely. Wemby is a better comparison to Oden.
 
You can criticize my comparisons. I'm criticizing your finality concerning the starting role early in the season. Scoot is not the number one pick...Oden was. Different draft entirely. Wemby is a better comparison to Oden.
I said "Blazer Comparison." Wemby plays for the Spurs.
 
I said "Blazer Comparison." Wemby plays for the Spurs.
and I said "better comparison" Do you remember the parade and hype for Oden? Scoot didn't get that at all. Wemby did. I'm not knocking Scoot....I'm excited about him but not like I was when we got Oden.
 
You can criticize my comparisons. I'm criticizing your finality concerning the starting role early in the season. Scoot is not the number one pick...Oden was. Different draft entirely. Wemby is a better comparison to Oden.
Is Jared Bayless really your best BLAZER comparison?
 
That's a very bad comparison. The hype around Scoot is national hype over several years. Before Wemby appeared, Scoot was projected as the #1 pick.

The best Blazer comparison is Greg Oden.

IMHO the best Blazer comparison is Sebastian Telfair. Huge huge hype nationally during his HS career.

For the record I think Scoot will be lightyears better than Telfair ended up being, but that's the hype comparison I feel.
 
Is Jared Bayless really your best BLAZER comparison?
Context matters...I said summer league hype when mentioning Nolan Smith and Bayless...people thought they were going to be game changers. People were wrong. We'll find out if Scoot is all he's cracked up to be. I'll weigh in on him around Christmas when he's guarded Steph Curry and Damian Lillard. You're welcome to hand him the franchise all you want....I'm not so quick to make that distinction.
 
Context matters...I said summer league hype when mentioning Nolan Smith and Bayless...people thought they were going to be game changers. People were wrong. We'll find out if Scoot is all he's cracked up to be. I'll weigh in on him around Christmas when he's guarded Steph Curry and Damian Lillard. You're welcome to hand him the franchise all you want....I'm not so quick to make that distinction.

Neither Nolan or Jerryd where considered top 3 picks in any draft ever.
 
I honestly didn't like hearing Scoot say they wouldn't need many set plays in his interview. Sounded like Iverson used to a bit. Just give me the ball isn't a great plan.
 
Neither Nolan or Jerryd where considered top 3 picks in any draft ever.
but Adam Morrison was! Wes Mathews wasn't even drafted...it the numbers are supposed to guarantee production by draft position, they are often wrong. I'm not trying to buzzkill Scoot, I just think he's got a learning curve especially as a pt guard that could benefit from some mentoring from Ant and Brogdan.
 
Context matters...I said summer league hype when mentioning Nolan Smith and Bayless...people thought they were going to be game changers. People were wrong. We'll find out if Scoot is all he's cracked up to be. I'll weigh in on him around Christmas when he's guarded Steph Curry and Damian Lillard. You're welcome to hand him the franchise all you want....I'm not so quick to make that distinction.
Nolan Smith? Haha. He was a college senior drafted 21st in the draft. The comparison and expectations for Scoot are in no way similar.
 
So, are Brogdon and Williams on the floor yet? Hell, are they even in Santa Barbara yet?
 
I honestly didn't like hearing Scoot say they wouldn't need many set plays in his interview. Sounded like Iverson used to a bit. Just give me the ball isn't a great plan.

I know we don't like Iverson because he was cocky, but he was a 11-time all-star who went to the Finals once. I'm willing to give him a chance and let him grow.
 
IMHO the best Blazer comparison is Sebastian Telfair. Huge huge hype nationally during his HS career.

Didn’t read this thread, but I’d like to trademark our new offensive strategy now…… The Run and Scoot Offense™

Very fitting, as the Run and Gun offense didn't, uh, fly with Telfair and the Blazers plane.
 
Nolan Smith? Haha. He was a college senior drafted 21st in the draft. The comparison and expectations for Scoot are in no way similar.
I'm not talking about where they're drafted...I'm talking about summer league hype. Nate McMillan thought Nolan Smith was a game changer....he wasn't. Lot of fans thought that too. I honestly hope Scoot is but let me see him play an NBA game before we make him the GOAT
 
and I said "better comparison" Do you remember the parade and hype for Oden? Scoot didn't get that at all. Wemby did. I'm not knocking Scoot....I'm excited about him but not like I was when we got Oden.

Im sorry River this leaves out a ton of context.
Dame was still on the roster and unknown if he would still be come training camp. Wemby wasn't replacing a franchise superstar.
Of course he got a bigger welcome than Scoot. We still didnt know if he would be traded before training camp to appease Dame, who was still on the roster.

Liek you said, context matters.
 
IMHO the best Blazer comparison is Sebastian Telfair. Huge huge hype nationally during his HS career.

For the record I think Scoot will be lightyears better than Telfair ended up being, but that's the hype comparison I feel.
You’re talking about the hype, not his game though right? They are two totally different players.
 
I honestly didn't like hearing Scoot say they wouldn't need many set plays in his interview. Sounded like Iverson used to a bit. Just give me the ball isn't a great plan.
But that’s his style. He’s like CJ and Dame…… good or bad, people will see this.
 

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