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The "Way too Early' Draft prognostication

  • Holland

    Votes: 8 16.3%

  • Sarr

    Votes: 41 83.7%

  • Edwards

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    49
I would be pretty happy with Ja'Kobe Walter if he fell to the GS pick.

Solid size, can do a little bit of everything and comfortable shooting off the dribble and off movement.

Moses Moody/ Isaiah Joe type. More shit to him off the dribble than Joe but more of a pure shooter than Moses.
 
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Samuel said:
What's wrong with Holland?
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He's a G-League star wing that is inconsistent as a shooter and makes some careless turnovers.

Can slash and is athletic. His IQ is so-so and due to him not being as good of a playmaker as he can be, he might become a ball hog. Has defensive potential.

I think he ends up being Gerald Wallace/Rudy Gay tier where he can hit 17-21ppg at his peak while playing defense but that's not really a Top 3 pick, especially if his shooting is limited. He's projected usually around 7-12.

There is room for guys like that but unless they have superstar potential written on them where they're able to creative as they move with the ball ala Amen or Giannis (or healthy Ben Simmons), I don't think he fits well in Portland.
 
MrDraftGuy said:
He's a G-League star wing that is inconsistent as a shooter and makes some careless turnovers.

Can slash and is athletic. His IQ is so-so and due to him not being as good of a playmaker as he can be, he might become a ball hog. Has defensive potential.

I think he ends up being Gerald Wallace/Rudy Gay tier where he can hit 17-21ppg at his peak while playing defense but that's not really a Top 3 pick, especially if his shooting is limited. He's projected usually around 7-12.
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He reminds me so much of Aminu coming out of college.
 
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UKRAINEFAN said:
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I’d rather roll the dice on Matas.
 
MrDraftGuy said:
He's a G-League star wing that is inconsistent as a shooter and makes some careless turnovers.

Can slash and is athletic. His IQ is so-so and due to him not being as good of a playmaker as he can be, he might become a ball hog. Has defensive potential.

I think he ends up being Gerald Wallace/Rudy Gay tier where he can hit 17-21ppg at his peak while playing defense but that's not really a Top 3 pick, especially if his shooting is limited. He's projected usually around 7-12.

There is room for guys like that but unless they have superstar potential written on them where they're able to creative as they move with the ball ala Amen or Giannis (or healthy Ben Simmons), I don't think he fits well in Portland.
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I don't know if he fits on the Blazers but he's absolutely near the top of the draft from a talent perspective. there are not a lot of players with above average upside in this draft—I think holland is easily one of them.

- one of the top athletes in the draft
- can apply rim pressure and will get to the line.
- high motor
- defensive upside
- fairly versatile skillset when compared against the other guys in the top 10.
- was the consensus #1 guy coming out of his high school class.
- played for a dogshit GLI program this year so could look a bit different outside of that context. (see lively last year in duke's dogwater program)

outside shot needs to come around but this critique applies to several of the guys in the lotto--even guys like risacher and cody closed the season pretty dicey from 3.
 
With the second first rounder if he's still available Kelel Ware could be a decent pick up. Good shooter, banger and has similar traits to Bam.
 
Samuel said:
I don't know if he fits on the Blazers but he's absolutely near the top of the draft from a talent perspective. there are not a lot of players with above average upside in this draft—I think holland is easily one of them.
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Yeah, I mean, like I said, Gerald Wallace and Rudy Gay were good players. Wallace was an All-Star and Rudy could've been one on the right team, right year. Luol Deng, 2x All-Star, is another comparison due to how he slashes to the rim with pure athleticism and off ball movement (which Holland will have a better opportunity to utilize with NBA caliber guards). That's not bad at all. I don't think it's controversial to put him at #5-6 and am surprised at people who discount his talent as lower lottery/non-lottery. But again, the lack of creativity and a more simplistic body control is why I think his game is limited despite having a combination of athleticism, ball handling, and defense. For that, I'd really be surprised if he gets drafted at #3
 
MrDraftGuy said:
Yeah, I mean, like I said, Gerald Wallace and Rudy Gay were good players.
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Aside from maybe Sarr at #1, there aren’t a lot of potentially surprising outcomes for individual players landing in the top 3 this year. holland could absolutely go top 3–he could go 11. There will be no gasp-worthy Anthony Bennett moment this year.
 
B-Roy said:
Didn't realize the Spurs are only one game back of us. Can they catch us?
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Yeah they have Detroit for the last game of the season so they could definitely win that one, we could lose our next three and we would have a share of 4th in the lotto. Meaning we would split in half the combined likelihoods of every outcome for the 4th and 5th spot in the lotto. If neither us nor the Spurs got one of the top 4 picks then there would be a coin flip that determines who has the higher of the back to back picks.

What would be exciting is if the Spurs somehow beat the Nuggets on Friday and the Pistons on Sunday to put us in the 4th lotto spot by ourselves. I don't think that's likely but I do think we might get that split between fourth and fifth.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah they have Detroit for the last game of the season so they could definitely win that one, we could lose our next three and we would have a share of 4th in the lotto. Meaning we would split in half the combined likelihoods of every outcome for the 4th and 5th spot in the lotto. If neither us nor the Spurs got one of the top 4 picks then there would be a coin flip that determines who has the higher of the back to back picks.

What would be exciting is if the Spurs somehow beat the Nuggets on Friday and the Pistons on Sunday to put us in the 4th lotto spot by ourselves. I don't think that's likely but I do think we might get that split between fourth and fifth.
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I was counting on Denver not playing their starters in the second to last game of the season, but Minnesota is still nipping at their feet unfortunately.
 
Would it make sense to satisfy the owed pick to Chicago for the Blazers to send them the Golden State pick in this years draft?
 
NWDeeJay said:
Would it make sense to satisfy the owed pick to Chicago for the Blazers to send them the Golden State pick in this years draft?
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IMO, only reason that would make sense would be if we were planning to make a trade using multiple future picks. At this stage of the rebuild that seems unlikely, so I would say no, that wouldn't make sense.
 
AmirIcon said:
I thought someone mentioned how not having the rights to the pick would be in conflict with collecting the Bucks pick in the future. Not sure.
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you mean the pick swap?
 
Clingan has the IQ/awareness to be a Gobert-level rim protector.

7’3” w/o shoes
7’7” wingspan

I now have him as my #1 target - above Sarr and Topic.

Scoot/Sharpe/Clingan is a filthy core to build around.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Clingan has the IQ/awareness to be a Gobert-level rim protector.

7’3” w/o shoes
7’7” wingspan

I now have him as my #1 target - above Sarr and Topic.

Scoot/Sharpe/Clingan is a filthy core to build around.
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What do we do with Ayton? We’re not using our lottery pick to draft a backup.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Clingan has the IQ/awareness to be a Gobert-level rim protector.

7’3” w/o shoes
7’7” wingspan

I now have him as my #1 target - above Sarr and Topic.

Scoot/Sharpe/Clingan is a filthy core to build around.
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I saw a comp of him being the next Jakob Poeltl, not Gobert. In the biggest game of the season, Zach Edey put 37/10 on him with 60% FG. A player everyone says has no NBA game. I have no idea who I would want now, but think the best player in the draft can be found at number 7 just as likely as 1 in this draft. Respect your opinion though. Personally I would love to see him go 1, as long as I had 2.
 
BIG Q said:
I saw a comp of him being the next Jakob Poeltl, not Gobert. In the biggest game of the season, Zach Edey put 37/10 on him with 60% FG. A player everyone says has no NBA game. I have no idea who I would want now, but think the best player in the draft can be found at number 7 just as likely as 1 in this draft. Respect your opinion though. Personally I would love to see him go 1, as long as I had 2.
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That was my take as well. I don’t think slow is the way to go.
 
AmirIcon said:
Correct. What happens if we make the Playoffs for the first time and the pick is owed but we get the right to a swap?
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It coverts to a 2nd round pick in 2028 if we don’t make the playoffs by then. If we swap our pick in 2028 I’m guessing if it is in the lottery it will convert to a 2nd round pick. If the swapped pick isn’t in the lottery we will send it to them. It’s not that big of a problem imo.
 
Tortimer said:
It coverts to a 2nd round pick in 2028 if we don’t make the playoffs by then. If we swap our pick in 2028 I’m guessing if it is in the lottery it will convert to a 2nd round pick. If the swapped pick isn’t in the lottery we will send it to them. It’s not that big of a problem imo.
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Agreed.
 
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