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The "Way too Early' Draft prognostication

  • Holland

    Votes: 8 16.3%
  • Sarr

    Votes: 41 83.7%
  • Edwards

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    49
This draft might be "weak" but I think it might be one of the best drafts for guys who "might" turn in something without a true headline player ala Wemby. This along with the new CBA and new TV contract in the next year or two the Blazers IF they play it right could take advantage of the market. Let's take this year for example not many "impact" free agents and too be honest only one and that is George and he is a wild card in the truest sense of the word since he could return to LA or heck he might choose to accept a little less money IF it means a chance for a ring we have no idea. This is where my opinion of Cronin clashes cause we need a GM who can pounce on the opening and desperation the Sixers and maybe a couple other teams might have and can pawn Grant off for a small killing. The only thing I know for a FACT is this offseason and maybe the next will be the lynch pin in how this rebuild goes and will this team be stuck in the mud for years and years or will they rise up in less then 3 to 5 years and be a factor in the wild wild west where the competition is only getting more fierce by the season.
 
I just saw one mock that had us taking Dillingham at 7 and Isaiah Collier at 14. I can't imagine a worse draft than that for Portland.

I'm good with it if thats truly BPA. We have so little talent and zero players that are set here long term.

Worst draft to me would be some combo of Edey/Clingan/Knecht. 3 limited bench players with little upside.
 
So how would people feel about using the 14th pick on a guard if they drop to 14?

Topic/Dillingham/Sheppard/etc.

Guys who were projected top 10.

If they fell to 14, would you be upset if we took them? I'm on the fence. I really don't want to take a guard, but those guys are very talented.

IF...

Cronin trades both Simons & Brogdon, then he probably needs to draft a guard, depending on players he lands in the trade.

Starters Scoot & Sharpe. BU Banton. Then my choice with pick 14 would be Carter.

This gives the coach a tool box full of matchup headaches for the other team.
 
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Who is the last Blazer draft pick that was not a project? Lillard? seems like the blazers only take high upside high risk projects. Guess this year will be the same old same old. Someday maybe they will take someone who can have a positive impact on the team.
 
Who is the last Blazer draft pick that was not a project? Lillard? seems like the blazers only take high upside high risk projects. Guess this year will be the same old same old. Someday maybe they will take someone who can have a positive impact on the team.
What player(s) in this years draft do you think can have a positive impact on the team?
 
What player(s) in this years draft do you think can have a positive impact on the team?
No clue, not a draft guru. I just know that this talk about taking high reward high risk prospects every year hasn't really worked out in a long time. I get it Scoot and Sharpe still have a chance, but the last one to hit was Ant and guess what. LET'S TRADE ANT. He is not in our window anymore I guess.
 
This draft might be "weak" but I think it might be one of the best drafts for guys who "might" turn in something without a true headline player ala Wemby. This along with the new CBA and new TV contract in the next year or two the Blazers IF they play it right could take advantage of the market. Let's take this year for example not many "impact" free agents and too be honest only one and that is George and he is a wild card in the truest sense of the word since he could return to LA or heck he might choose to accept a little less money IF it means a chance for a ring we have no idea. This is where my opinion of Cronin clashes cause we need a GM who can pounce on the opening and desperation the Sixers and maybe a couple other teams might have and can pawn Grant off for a small killing. The only thing I know for a FACT is this offseason and maybe the next will be the lynch pin in how this rebuild goes and will this team be stuck in the mud for years and years or will they rise up in less then 3 to 5 years and be a factor in the wild wild west where the competition is only getting more fierce by the season.

The Sixers probably will be spending a bunch of cap space to retain certain players and might not be able to afford Grant.

I agree, though. Grant is probably worth something to, say, the Mavericks since he completes their roster. Probably two first rounders for 26 and 28 and a second round pick.

seems like the blazers only take high upside high risk projects.

If the rumors are true and Portland wants Clingan, that appears not to be the case. Of course, that's only if you believe Clingan is akin to a Brad Daugherty type, offensively, (Gobert-lite on defense) or current DeAndre Ayton but more consistent and competitive on both ends (less athletic though).

In all honesty, I feel that the player who most has "the best player of the draft" potential is Reed Sheppard due to his combination of shooting+defense+IQ and though he probably will contribute right away, he still will take some time to adjust. If Portland wants to trade one of Simons or Scoot for the Rockets #3 and acquire Sheppard that way, I think that might be what you're looking for, where their game is already mature and helps contribute right away due to intangible traits.

To a degree, Edey is similar but probably in more limited bouts - bench scoring, for example.

Personally, I'd trade everyone on the roster except Sharpe for a chance to draft Sheppard+Williams+Edey (or Ware) and shape the roster to go after one of Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey, AJ Dybantsa, and maybe Cam Boozer in the following two years. If Portland can somehow acquire Sheppard+Sharpe+Williams+a 2025 or 2026 Top 2 pick+Ayton/Edey (or Ware)......I think Portland will be able to notch one championship by 2030. That'd be a team with two way potential at the 1-5.

We'll see how that prediction looks like in a few years but my point is that if Portland retools itself by taking advantage of the "weak draft" hype, I think it can find itself in a similar situation to OKC where the window just opens up while everyone is incredibly young.
 
No clue, not a draft guru. I just know that this talk about taking high reward high risk prospects every year hasn't really worked out in a long time. I get it Scoot and Sharpe still have a chance, but the last one to hit was Ant and guess what. LET'S TRADE ANT. He is not in our window anymore I guess.
I don't think most of us are of the opinion that Ant isn't in our window, it's just that Ant seems to make both Shaedon and Scoot worse when he's on the floor with them and hopefully there are teams out there like Orlando or San Antonio who are a perfect fit for Ant's strengths and weaknesses, who therefore could send back pieces that are a better fit for our personnel and the type of ball we're supposedly trying to play.

If we wanted to build around Ant we should have taken Daniels instead of Shae and probably one of the Thompson twins instead of Scoot. Who knows though, this front office (which has in reality has been in place for well over a decade) hasn't cared about fit since LaMarcus burned us.
 
I don't think most of us are of the opinion that Ant isn't in our window, it's just that Ant seems to make both Shaedon and Scoot worse when he's on the floor with them and hopefully there are teams out there like Orlando or San Antonio who are a perfect fit for Ant's strengths and weaknesses, who therefore could send back pieces that are a better fit for our personnel and the type of ball we're supposedly trying to play.

If we wanted to build around Ant we should have taken Daniels instead of Shae and probably one of the Thompson twins instead of Scoot. Who knows though, this front office (which has in reality has been in place for well over a decade) hasn't cared about fit since LaMarcus burned us.
Daniels screams bust.
 
Daniels screams bust.
I'm not saying that the front office made bad choices, I'm just saying that this roster is definitely not built around Ant in any way that makes sense.

Ant and Jerami should be gone before training camp and if they aren't I hope Chauncey is talking about their roles very differently.
 
Somebody above just typed……”This draft might be "weak" but I think it might be one of the best drafts for guys who "might" turn in something”

WHAT!!??!!?? What?
 
Somebody above just typed……”This draft might be "weak" but I think it might be one of the best drafts for guys who "might" turn in something”

WHAT!!??!!?? What?
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Very curious to know what the cost of a lottery pick equates to in this draft. Going from 14 to 8 is an interesting idea.
 
Very curious to know what the cost of a lottery pick equates to in this draft. Going from 14 to 8 is an interesting idea.
Possibly Ant and ? Doubt SA is looking for a pick back in this draft unless they have identified a player they like that will be available outside the lottery.
 
Possibly Ant and ? Doubt SA is looking for a pick back in this draft unless they have identified a player they like that will be available outside the lottery.

Or do an 8 for 14 package and stash Topic. That's a classic SA move.
 
I think Williams/Salaun is the dream scenario for us.

I'm holding out hopes of a Brogdon trade w/ Houston for Risacher at 3 and then getting one or both of them with the rest of our assets. But those two certainly seem to be a reasonably realistic duo in a mostly standing pat/no big moves type scenario for sure...
 
Just say no to Ware. You can not build a championship team with slackers.

For the first time in Coach Woodson's era at Indiana, they miss out playing in the March madness tourney, with Ware.
 
Salaun yes, I want no part of Williams

Who would you rank above him? All the wings have warts.

I like Knecht a lot, but he's 23 and his defense is bad. But he's a good shooter.

Holland is a terrible shooter.

Williams is really skinny and I don't love his shooting form but I think he could be the best scorer/defender of the bunch to pair with Scoot.

Buzelis just screams bust.
 
Buzelis MIGHT be good but he gives me vibes of another big guy that got drafted in the top 10 -- Suns took Bender and he was below average at best
 
Who would you rank above him? All the wings have warts.

I like Knecht a lot, but he's 23 and his defense is bad. But he's a good shooter.

Holland is a terrible shooter.

Williams is really skinny and I don't love his shooting form but I think he could be the best scorer/defender of the bunch to pair with Scoot.

Buzelis just screams bust.

Totally agree with this.

Cody has shown

- Great defense

- Shooting despite the low volume

- An incredible ability to finish despite his slight frame

- Ability to put the ball on the floor

- He's the brother of Jalen

He's got a lot of good things going for him. He absolutely needs to bulk up, but his skill set is a great match for what we already have going. We need to prioritize defense and two-way guys.

Dalton is not a two-way guy, though I acknowledge he will be very good offensively. Of the guys there at 7, Cody is probably my favorite. 6 months ago I would have been excited to land him in this daft. He's way ahead of his brother and his brother needed 3 years before making the jump to the NBA.

I'd love to get him at 7 and move 14 and Brogdon to get the Grizz or Bulls pick to get Salaun if we don't some how land Sarr.
 
Was just listening to the latest Ryan Russillo podcast with Sam Vecenie as they break down the lottery. I literally stopped listening. They got to the 3rd pick and had no clue. They had no idea who the top 3 picks would be n an NBA Draft.
Sam was saying there is simply no future stars in this draft. None.
Usually he has about 4 or 5 a year.
Said next two years will be amazing. So that gives me some hope for our tank next season.
 

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