Game Thread 2025-26 GAME #29 - BLAZERS VS PISTONS - DECEMBER 22, 2025 - MONDAY - 7:00 PM - KUNP - BLAZERVISION

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I still think once this team is healthy (if ever), they might win games like this. Not having a real PG, and lacking enough shooting is a recipe for losses.

Their lack of shooting is quite frustrating. Jrue playing, the team is 6-6. Without him they're 6-11.

I think with him, assuming he was healthy, that'd probably be 9-8 or 8-9 in that same stretch.
 
Well I am calling it a night but cya all for tomorrow's game vs. the Magic

I hope they figure out how to correct at least 50% of the stupid shit from tonight or it's going to be another long annoying evening with the same result.
They scrapped back into the game, so for me it was annoying until then and still the turnovers and missed free throws sucked but for me this kind of competition even in a loss is a good result.
 
Weird game. Under the circumstances, I'd have felt pretty good if we hadn't taken the lead but lost because we missed 14 FTs, gave up 22 offensive rebounds and turned it over 18 times.

Sidy was great. Start with that. He was just great. And we drew fouls and got Cunningham out of the game and almost got Thompson out.

Shaedon was great for about 40 minutes. Then he missed three shots in the restricted area and committed two of his eight (!) turnovers and looked like Kris Murray, not wanting the ball down the stretch. He got the ball twice where he didn't even look at the hoop and immediately threw it back where it came from. That was disappointing to see.

That left it all to Deni, who nearly had a triple-double but also was 9-for-15 at the stripe.

Clingan had another double-double, but it really felt like he didn't play as well as his numbers because Duren was even better, but, more importantly, beat Clingan for several important rebounds down the stretch.

In the big picture, though, this was probably the optimal outcome. We came back from 20 down against the best team in the East and made them sweat but lost, but many of the mistakes we made were by younger players being asked to do a lot and most of those were correctable. Shaedon needs to tighten up the handle and get a better idea of how to draw contact instead of getting blocked or forcing up tough shots when he attacks the rim, but he can do that with good offseason training. He also had five steals tonight. Deni will become a more consistent free throw shooter as he continues to get there. Sidy will add elements to his game, I believe, to maximize his effort. We were competitive, we lost, we will learn and we remain on track to pick up another asset through this draft, so, all things considered, I'm only mildly disappointed and only in the present.
 
I still think once this team is healthy (if ever), they might win games like this. Not having a real PG, and lacking enough shooting is a recipe for losses.

Their lack of shooting is quite frustrating. Jrue playing, the team is 6-6. Without him they're 6-11.

I think with him, assuming he was healthy, that'd probably be 9-8 or 8-9 in that same stretch.
Oh yeah, we're a Jrue away from winning these games. Can't wait to find out they're holding him back so we can tank a little.
 
Oh yeah, we're a Jrue away from winning these games
Think about having Jrue and Scoot in the game.

I don't know what will happen between now and the trade deadline but one thing is for sure both of those guys or whatever they bring back in a trade or trades would definitely help us.
 
they ruled there was no imminent possession after the reversed call. Pretty sure by rule that's a new 24 second clock for whichever team won the jump

it could be, that when the officials watched the replay, they saw that Deni fouled Harris about 3 times before the shot, just not the foul they called. So they balanced a bit by their possession ruling
I'm sure that's accurate but that rule penalizes the team that had the bad call against them and benefits the team who did not get fouled, so shouldn't have a benefit.
 
I still think once this team is healthy (if ever), they might win games like this. Not having a real PG, and lacking enough shooting is a recipe for losses.

Their lack of shooting is quite frustrating. Jrue playing, the team is 6-6. Without him they're 6-11.

I think with him, assuming he was healthy, that'd probably be 9-8 or 8-9 in that same stretch.
maybe...but the Blazers are like bop-a-mole. Too many turnovers to win one night...next game they correct the turnovers but give up 20 offensive rebounds and lose because of it....next game they control the defensive glass but miss 14 FT's....next game they don't have many turnovers, shoot 90% on FT's, and win the boards, but shoot 6-39 on three's and blow 7 lay-ups....next game, it's too many turnovers to win...rinse-repeat
 
maybe...but the Blazers are like bop-a-mole. Too many turnovers to win one night...next game they correct the turnovers but give up 20 offensive rebounds and lose because of it....next game they control the defensive glass but miss 14 FT's....next game they don't have many turnovers, shoot 90% on FT's, and win the boards, but shoot 6-39 on three's and blow 7 lay-ups....next game, it's too many turnovers to win...rinse-repeat
It's almost like we're a young team with two PGs (Jrue and Scoot) and a combo guard (Blake) out with injuries.
 
I'm sure that's accurate but that rule penalizes the team that had the bad call against them and benefits the team who did not get fouled, so shouldn't have a benefit.
Portland shot 19 more FT's when Detroit was more aggressive and had a 66-40 points in the paint advantage. Blazer fans shouldn't complain about officials when those two things happen
 
Portland shot 19 more FT's when Detroit was more aggressive and had a 66-40 points in the paint advantage. Blazer fans shouldn't complain about officials when those two things happen
That was just a pivotal play. I think when the whistle was blown there was only .6 seconds left on the shot clock so they shouldn't have called imminent possession but a shot clock violation.

I don't care about the rest of the game, that play was pivotal and it fucked us... full stop.
 
It's almost like we're a young team with two PGs (Jrue and Scoot) and a combo guard (Blake) out with injuries.
missing PG's don't explain 14 missed FT's and giving up 22 offensive rebounds

for me, the injury excuse is wearing kind of thin. For one thing other teams have had major injuries too; for another, I'm beginning to think Blazer injuries may not be a bad luck problem but may be a roster construction problem
 
missing PG's don't explain 14 missed FT's and giving up 22 offensive rebounds

for me, the injury excuse is wearing kind of thin. For one thing other teams have had major injuries too; for another, I'm beginning to think Blazer injuries may not be a bad luck problem but may be a roster construction problem
I like us at three positions right now... maybe four. I like our starting 2-4 being Shae, Tou and Deni and I like Sidy as a wing off the bench. Other than that I'd love to see us move anyone else on the roster to make more sense either trying to win now or continuing with our rebuild and hopefully players that match the schemes we're trying to play.
 
missing PG's don't explain 14 missed FT's and giving up 22 offensive rebounds

for me, the injury excuse is wearing kind of thin. For one thing other teams have had major injuries too; for another, I'm beginning to think Blazer injuries may not be a bad luck problem but may be a roster construction problem

This is the way.
 
Well here we are. It's Christmas week and we still have not seen Scoot. (some told me I didn't know squat about hamstring injuries) So anyone think he will play this year? I think it's pretty clear he won't.
How about Holiday? Grant? You all better get ready for trade deadline because this is what it's looking like to me. They are going to miss as much time as it takes to get them ready to be available for trade.

I think it's pretty comical blaming the refs on a game where the Blazers were given 43 trips to the line and in the same sentence actually typing "you gotta make your free throws".
 
Tough loss. They could have given up but they fought back like warriors. So much heart this team has. We just cant win when we have Love, Murray and Sidy all playing major minutes. Health (especially our pg’s) is killing our ability to manage end of games. We need to get healthy and get our players back on the court.
Our guys give it their all and are gassed by the fourth.
 
Tough loss. They could have given up but they fought back like warriors. So much heart this team has. We just cant win when we have Love, Murray and Sidy all playing major minutes. Health (especially our pg’s) is killing our ability to manage end of games. We need to get healthy and get our players back on the court.
Our guys give it their all and are gassed by the fourth.
Not sure what players are going to get back on the court and make a difference.
Kind of looks to me like they have what they have and will trade anyone who might be valuable to a real contender.
 
Well here we are. It's Christmas week and we still have not seen Scoot. (some told me I didn't know squat about hamstring injuries) So anyone think he will play this year? I think it's pretty clear he won't.
How about Holiday? Grant? You all better get ready for trade deadline because this is what it's looking like to me. They are going to miss as much time as it takes to get them ready to be available for trade.

I think it's pretty comical blaming the refs on a game where the Blazers were given 43 trips to the line and in the same sentence actually typing "you gotta make your free throws".
Your lips to Cronin's ears. I hope we trade Jerami, Jrue (who should get some actual return), Tisse and Rob. Recommit to the rebuild. See what the young guys can do in the second half of the season.
 
Well here we are. It's Christmas week and we still have not seen Scoot. (some told me I didn't know squat about hamstring injuries) So anyone think he will play this year? I think it's pretty clear he won't.
How about Holiday? Grant? You all better get ready for trade deadline because this is what it's looking like to me. They are going to miss as much time as it takes to get them ready to be available for trade.

I think it's pretty comical blaming the refs on a game where the Blazers were given 43 trips to the line and in the same sentence actually typing "you gotta make your free throws".
You shouldn't squat if you have a hamstring injury.
 
If we could make free throws we'd win at least half of the games we lost.
I'm not sure about that. The opponents usually aren't converting 100% themselves. Two end of the floor stuff

for instance, last night the Blazers shot 67% on FT's. If they shoot their season average they score 4.7 more points in an 8 point game. So, 5 more points. But...Detroit shot 62%. If they shoot their season average they score 3 more points. Blazers only net 2 more points if both teams shoot their average. Not only that, the Blazers shot 14 more FT's than their average while Detroit shot 5 less FT's than their average. And this was in a game when Detroit had a 66-40 advantage in points-in-the-paint. I think context matters

* in Portland's case, more context: Blazers are only 20th in FT%. But they are 3rd in FT's and FTA's; they get to the line at a high rate. Trouble is Blazers are 27th in fouls; 28th in opponent FTA's; and 29th in opponent made FT's. The result of all that is they only outscore opponents by 0.3 points/game from the FT line

* more context, part two: say the Blazers ranked 10th in the NBA in FT%; that would be a conversion rate of 79.2%. Portland's current rate is 78.3%. The Blazers would only score 0.26 more points/game

* more context, part three: so then, if Portland had better FT shooters, would those better FT shooters be able to get to the line at the same rate the current ones do? That's seems pretty iffy. CJ and Simons are good FT shooters but they are terrible at getting to the line. Deandre Ayton shot 82.3% from the line his first season in Portland; but he only shot 1.6 FT's/36. Clingan is averaging 3.6

if the Blazers want the FT line to make a bigger difference they might want to foul less
 
then guess what ... your not going to win specially against top teams in the league.
If you don’t have a lot of talent on the floor, then guess what…. YOU’RE not going to win either.
 
they ruled there was no imminent possession after the reversed call. Pretty sure by rule that's a new 24 second clock for whichever team won the jump

it could be, that when the officials watched the replay, they saw that Deni fouled Harris about 3 times before the shot, just not the foul they called. So they balanced a bit by their possession ruling
When the refs blew the whistle on the fouls…..the only player that kept playing after the whistle was DC. All 3 Piston players under the rim stopped. In the past in that situation, the refs will have a jump ball.
 
Well I am calling it a night but cya all for tomorrow's game vs. the Magic

I hope they figure out how to correct at least 50% of the stupid shit from tonight or it's going to be another long annoying evening with the same result.
It will be another long annoying evening with the same result simply because the Magic have a more talented roster at this point. That should come as no surprise. I really hope you acknowledge this and don’t let that ruin your night.
 
I still think once this team is healthy (if ever), they might win games like this. Not having a real PG, and lacking enough shooting is a recipe for losses.

Their lack of shooting is quite frustrating. Jrue playing, the team is 6-6. Without him they're 6-11.

I think with him, assuming he was healthy, that'd probably be 9-8 or 8-9 in that same stretch.
Love seeing that there are still some realistic posters on here.
 
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Portland shot 19 more FT's when Detroit was more aggressive and had a 66-40 points in the paint advantage. Blazer fans shouldn't complain about officials when those two things happen
The NBA is an entertainment product; if we want to win we need to be more entertaining in the way the NBA wants to sell games and narratives. We had opportunities to make the big comeback but we failed to capitalize on free throw opportunities, started complaining and showing up the refs. Make the NBA look bad and you’ll be punished. If you want the pure sport, watch high school ball.
 

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